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Should Two Men Be Able To Make Their Own Baby ??? Royal Uzi

  Author:  13283  Category:(Debate) Created:(2/4/2004 2:11:00 PM)
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Japanese scientists are saying that by the year 2020 they will be able to let two men create/make their own baby . They will do this by switching the DNA of a female egg with DNA of a man . The egg will then be artificially inseminated by another man to produce conception ! All the genetic material to make the baby will come directly from two men . This will give male gay couples further ammo in their fight to gain the same rights as heterosexual couples . To me all this stuff is mad science . I dont use the term mad science in a bad way . I am just surprised with all the wild stuff scientist are trying to do in their labratories . I know most are okay with same sex marraiges , but should we allow two men to also create their own kids ??? Raz



In Australia, scientists are already very close in allowing two women to make their own baby also (without the aid of a man ) . :(

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Date: 2/4/2004 2:16:00 PM  From Authorid: 57640    I think it takes away the joy of motherhood.  
Date: 2/4/2004 2:22:00 PM  From Authorid: 58334    Why not? They're normal people just like you and me who love each other and want to share a family.  
Date: 2/4/2004 2:27:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 13283    I think it was always intended for a man AND woman to produce kids . Many say a child needs his mom . I wonder how this new thing would work out . Razzy aka  
Date: 2/4/2004 2:29:00 PM  From Authorid: 33925    What the heck is with all these posts today?? Did I miss something? There are FOUR on the front page now..  
Date: 2/4/2004 2:34:00 PM  From Authorid: 58334    I just think they should be able to share the same happiness as any straight couple. Nothing is meant to be intended. That's just an opinion. if it makes someone happy and doesn't hurt anyone, I don't see the problem.  
Date: 2/4/2004 2:35:00 PM  From Authorid: 62249    nope, Thats crossing line, in my opinion. If they want a kid, adopt one. - MC Bacon  
Date: 2/4/2004 2:43:00 PM  From Authorid: 30051    I think it's wrong.  
Date: 2/4/2004 2:52:00 PM  From Authorid: 52363    im sorry but i think that is wrong just...really disturbing.  
Date: 2/4/2004 2:57:00 PM  From Authorid: 10722    No  
Date: 2/4/2004 2:59:00 PM  From Authorid: 16845    you mean....men will be able to carry babies!? It's Junior all over again!!  
Date: 2/4/2004 3:04:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 13283    No Becky , they prefer that one of the men's sister's carry the baby to birth . A woman is needed in the process . Razzy aka  
Date: 2/4/2004 3:12:00 PM  From Authorid: 13729    Yeah, to me it seems kind of Mad-Sciencey too......They can do and say what they want, but the bottom line is they need eggs.....Which only come from women......  
Date: 2/4/2004 3:25:00 PM  From Authorid: 62433    That's not the way God wanted it to be. If he wanted a man and another man to have a baby, he would've made them that way.  
Date: 2/4/2004 3:32:00 PM  From Authorid: 3125    People just don't know when to quit and leave well enough alone. They will keep playing God which will eventually lead to the destruction of mankind.  
Date: 2/4/2004 3:44:00 PM  From Authorid: 58334    Ah, but not all believe in God, Fairy & Rusure  
Date: 2/4/2004 4:17:00 PM  From Authorid: 59861    yeah right, remember, people in the EIGHTIES thought in the year 1999 we would have been colonizing mars. i doubt this will ever happen, and if it does it wont go on for long. and if it does we will all be long gone and not have to worry about it. i have no problem with same sex business, your life your rules, but i highly doubt this will ever go through, and if it did, i would have a problem with it. men and women were made to do that. when you alter something like that, there are good and bad concequences. i see only bad with this one. peace n luv  
Date: 2/4/2004 4:18:00 PM  From Authorid: 59861    oh, but it is really cool that they can even fathom doing that and being able to accually do it. SCIENCE!!!......ICOMMENDYOU! from:  
Date: 2/4/2004 4:20:00 PM  From Authorid: 59861    ok, thats SICK!!! why in the world would someone want their SISTER to carry THEIR baby!! thats like inscest or something. and nimwaye, you dont have to believe in god. rusure's oppinnion was a figure of speech. peace n luv  
Date: 2/4/2004 4:26:00 PM  From Authorid: 8555    Why mess with what God intended for all of us to have. How do we know that these kids made in the lab won't have serious problems in their life? God made the reproduction process perfect, why mess with perfection.  
Date: 2/4/2004 5:33:00 PM  From Authorid: 3125    Nimwae, Because all do not believe in God doesn't make the destruction of man any less likely. Give man long enough and in the name of progress, curosity, and greed, these things will destroy him.  
Date: 2/4/2004 5:37:00 PM  From Authorid: 51725    gay couples are wrong so this is definately NO
Date: 2/4/2004 6:30:00 PM  From Authorid: 56293    I think that should be left up to a woman.  
Date: 2/4/2004 6:30:00 PM  From Authorid: 58334    *shurgs* Oh well, I guess in today's society people are entitled happiness. Go figure.  
Date: 2/4/2004 6:44:00 PM  From Authorid: 6867    I guess. I really don't agree with that. I just think there is a reason women were made to be the child bearers. I don't know enough about it though. I can't imagina and I honestly don't want to see the day. I think if men could carry babies, it would not last for long, they're bodies aren't made for that. I know it's an uneducated answer but I totally disagree. It's not natural. If it was meant to be that way; wouldn't we just asexual or something instead? I don't know. Even with the 2 women w/o a man thing. That's weird. Just adopt. There are so many children out there that need a home. Children all over the world. I think more heterosexual couples should start thinking about adoption too. The world is already overpopulated. Love Yourself,  
Date: 2/4/2004 6:46:00 PM  From Authorid: 57653    Though I don't see this actually ever happening, I don't have a problem with it. I see the point...many people want to have a child that was made BY them...a child that carries their genetics. The genetics of BOTH parents. Again, I personally have no problem with this.  
Date: 2/4/2004 6:54:00 PM  From Authorid: 19460    that is just as bad as cloning. and if the govt wasnt so hard on gays and lesbians adopting children, maybe they wouldnt come up with such goofy ideas as 2 people of the same sex making a baby.  
Date: 2/4/2004 7:15:00 PM  From Authorid: 27403    When I read this post, it reminded me of the X and Y factors in DNA, so I looked it up real fast. So, not to get technical, I believe the offspring of a male/male combination could end up with brain or other very serious DNA related problems!
Males have 23 sets of chromosomes, 22 sets are X-X and one set is X-X or X-Y (y being what determines a male). A female has 23 sets of chromosomes , 23 sets of X-X. The Y chromosome triggers development of male characteristis; other than that, the Y chromosome is blank. Whereas the X chromosome has almost nothing to do with females. Instead it has genes with infomation for all sorts of characteristics needed by both males and females. Example, a gene that is important in the functioning of the brain is located in the X chromosome, among many more vital functions. So, if you get half of your DNA (chromosomes) from your father, you would either 22 X chromosomes and 1 Y, or 23 "X" chromosomes. From your mother you get 23 "X" chromosomes. If you only have the chromosomes of two men, there is great possiblilty you could get 22X and 2Y (which is not present in humans), and being missing a very vital X factor that determines function. So, didn't ya'll just really enjoy that!!! For that reason, even besides the moral issue it would be criminal to breed these type of humans! Love and Light
  
Date: 2/4/2004 8:26:00 PM  From Authorid: 62100    Are they even sure that something like this could work??? I mean sure, the DNA factor sounds logical, but what if there's other stuff that will be messed up because it's not the DNA of a female?? I'm all for everyone being able to have a child no matter what their gender..but even lesbians have to use donated sperm to fertilize an egg from one of the women..it's not as if they put the woman's DNA into the donated sperm..  
Date: 2/4/2004 8:28:00 PM  From Authorid: 27403    Xylanthia, Maybe I wrote that wrong, cause what I was saying was that the DNA WOULD be all screwed up! Love and Light  
Date: 2/4/2004 8:38:00 PM  From Authorid: 54570    Mad science. These Idiots are playing God. Who knows what serious reprecussions can come of this. Hasnt evolution taught us one thing. Male and Female are normally needed. If these scientist want to do it right then make these people asexual. Have a offspring bud out from them. But millions of years of evolution and whatnots are being ruined by people out to make a name by creating life in a lab.  
Date: 2/4/2004 9:09:00 PM  From Authorid: 62100    Nope, you wrote it right Lightworker..I just read the other replies after posting my own..LOL..I should have addressed that you already stated this..sorry..  
Date: 2/4/2004 9:27:00 PM  From Authorid: 27403    I am ALWAYS doing that,Zylanthia! LOL! I think we are thinking the same thing! Love and Light  
Date: 2/4/2004 9:29:00 PM  From Authorid: 56176    this is crazy,people are taking things too far,,,
it is a crazy crazy world,,,well crazy people in it,,,i need to say,,,
  
Date: 2/4/2004 9:45:00 PM  From Authorid: 12341    There are many aspects to consider, a crisis of conscience is one. Being able to doesn't make it right. A child should not be propagated like a plant, simply for the sake of science. The fine line is the society we live in and how that child will benefit, not the parents.  
Date: 2/4/2004 9:51:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    I have not heard one word about this. If you can produce a link, or a credible source, then I can reply.  
Date: 2/4/2004 10:37:00 PM  From Authorid: 51070    Interesting. I didn't know about this till now. But how is a man going to give birth to a baby? Won't they have to transform him in some way so he can do it? That sounds kinda tough to me.  
Date: 2/5/2004 3:51:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 13283    A womans eggs will be needed , but it will be geneticaly altered . A woman will be giving birth in the process , not a man . Spirit Child this report came on LIVE RED (a Latin news program ) . If you need a link let me go try and find one . Razzy aka  
Date: 2/5/2004 7:17:00 PM  From Authorid: 22080    this is creeeepy  
Date: 2/5/2004 10:01:00 PM  From Authorid: 62456    sounds like a great twilight zone episode. Very interesting idea to ponder but it probably wouldnt work. As far as the moral issue, I totally think if it ever will be possable, why not? Sounds so homophobic for people to get so riled. Just my opinion but a great post-love to see people get riled.IsisKat  
Date: 2/6/2004 9:51:00 AM  From Authorid: 12600    I have a hard time believing something like this could even work. It just doesn't seem possible. Lightworker made some very good points. Also, it would be interesting to see a man actually carry a child...LOL. I read somewhere before that men are capable of breastfeeding. Of course, they'd have to take some sort of hormone injections, but I just thought that was a cool, interesting little tidbit of info. I also think that parenthood should be based on the maturity and capability of the parents, not their sexual orientation. Given the choice of parents who are hetero, sorry, unloving, and do not care for themselves or their children ~OR~ parents who are loving, caring, committed, and homosexual, I'd pick the homosexual couple anyday.  
Date: 2/6/2004 11:00:00 AM  From Authorid: 10915    http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm338699.html This was a post I did a while ago. Got it out of the washington post science section.  
Date: 2/8/2004 10:27:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 13283    Spirit Child , Girlie just provided the link you were asking fors . Thanks Girlie ! Teep , the reason man cannot breastfeed is coz our breasts are underdeveloped . With hormone injections men can produce milk also . Razzy aka  
Date: 2/8/2004 3:39:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    I don't know how to reply....I am a strong supporter of Gay Rights. But this seems too scary to me, and Man is going too far playing God.  
Date: 2/8/2004 7:59:00 PM  From Authorid: 10915    Scary thing ain't it?  
Date: 2/9/2004 3:27:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    yes, Girlie, it is.  
Date: 2/18/2004 9:40:00 AM  From Authorid: 40530    I see no problem with it. Two people who love each other and want a child  
Date: 2/29/2004 6:40:00 PM  From Authorid: 4144    science? and still there's no cure for cancer. don't make a lot of sense to me.  
Date: 1/22/2008 4:26:00 PM  From Authorid: 12072    I'm against it simply because it's playing God--regardless if you believe in God or not, it's humans trying to be a higher power, a creator. cloning is bad enough.  

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