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Date: 2/15/2001 9:34:00 AM From Authorid: 24003 Wonderful post. I haven't studied up on this as I should have, so I can be prepared whent he time comes. Thanks for sharing. |
Date: 2/15/2001 9:49:00 AM From Authorid: 12835 Hey Norman this is a great post. (I wonder when Clinton will make that list ). |
Date: 2/15/2001 10:16:00 AM From Authorid: 11723 Augustus Caesar. At one point he did almost conquer, the "known world". He was considered to be descended from a god. And if memory serves correct, he did persecute Christians too. |
Date: 2/15/2001 8:21:00 PM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9544 Augustus Caesar almost conquered the known world and he persecuted Christians too. He was considered to be descended from a god but he didn't possess supernatural powers like the Antichrist will. Almost doesn't get it for the Antichrist will conquer the whole world and no one will be able to stop him in his campaign until Jesus comes again and put an end to his rule once and for all. |
Date: 2/15/2001 8:23:00 PM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9544 St.Pete believe it or not Bill Clinton has already made the list but like the others he has come and gone without incident. |
Date: 2/17/2001 3:48:00 PM
Go to endtime.com & shareintl.org the latter is the one to look out for!!! the first tells of things coming. |
Date: 2/17/2001 11:21:00 PM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9544 Unknown author I checked out the latter site and I have heard and read about this man who calls himself Maitreya. He is nothing more than a false prophet who has the nerve to bring Christ down to his level and compare himself with Him. Maitreya is a prime example of an antichrist with an added feature. He shows lying signs and wonders to many who are being deceived and deluded. He even teaches that Christ and Jesus are two different persons when that is far from the truth. Everything Jesus said is unfolding right before our very eyes including the terrible deceptions and delusions that is now sweeping the whole planet. I don't think Maitreya is the son of perdition for one simple reason. Maitreya is not in power. In other words he is not in political power. The book of Daniel plainly fortells that a king with a fierce countenance who will understand dark and sinister things will come forward. Here is the key element here...a king. Someone in political power is going to come forward possessing supernatural capabilities understanding dark and sinister schemes. I will concede that Maitreya is a false prophet possessing some supernatural capabilities or lying signs and wonders in other words but he does not possess any of the qualities the Antichrist will possess in comparasion to supernatural powers nor is he in political power. Please read the verse on this posting about the Antichrist taken directly from the book of Daniel chapter 8 verses 23-25. |
Date: 2/25/2001 11:17:00 PM From Authorid: 18737 Hiya, Norm *shakes friend's hand* I disagree with your assessment. There has been a man who fits this description who appeared on the scene two thousand years ago *roughly* and he has in fact brought down kingdoms, brought about lies, deceit and evil... But, I won't tell you his name because you might be offended... *smile*... May peace and harmony be forever yours. /s/ J.T. |
Date: 2/25/2001 11:39:00 PM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9544 J.T. you can disagree all you want and no I'm not offended for I am well aware you really believe it was Christ. Its really too bad you cannot understand and accept the reality of the devil and his host who has blinded and deceived you surrounding the word of the Lord and His testimony. Its too bad Satan has blinded your mind from receiving the Gospel of the Lord so that you might come to know the truth and be saved and be counted as an heir to eternal salvation. J.T. I wish the Lord would sweep the veil back for you and I really hate to say this but if you could see the recording angel blotting your name out of the book of Life I wonder what would you say then? In other words you like so many other skeptics and unbelievers need a real eye opening experience. No offense but your heart is hard like Pharoah's heart and you need a humbling experience that will hopefully and truly open your eyes. |
Date: 2/26/2001 12:14:00 AM From Authorid: 18737 Hiya, Norm, I appreciate your concern, I really do.. *smile* ... However, IF I believed in the god of Moses, the Jewish God, then I could ONLY conclude that Jesus is "Satan" in that he has separated the people who follow him from their "real" God. ... I do not say that to offend you or anyone else, but Jewish law is *purportedly* God's law. Christians do NOT follow God's law, they follow NO laws. ... That is observable and demonstrable. ... If you choose to believe that God wrote a book of laws that he intended to cancel at some future date by killing himself, that is your business. That is illogical and contradicts common sense. The "Messiah" in Jewish prophecies is a mortal king of the world, he is NOT "God" or "supernatural." ... The Christian interpretation of Jewish prophecies is totally incorrect and is the primary reason Jews did not and do not convert to Christianity. ... Jesus did NOT fulfill Jewish prophecies and if any group should know, it would be the Jewish people. *IMO*... Just because Rome forced Christianity on the western world at the point of a sword *as well as King James* does not mean it is from God. ... But, believe what you will. My relationship with God is between me and him, no man will interfere with that relationship, regardless what bribes *or threats* are offered. *smile* ... May peace and harmony be forever yours. /s/ J.T. *what are you doing up so late, anyway?* |
Date: 2/26/2001 2:15:00 AM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9544 J.T. I understand your argument quite well and although Jesus was born a Jew yet He is the Son of God who came down to this earth and paid the terrible price for all of mankind's sins and redemption. Believe it or not I understand how you think and why you think the way you do because I used to think the same way at one time but my eyes became opened by way of the Holy Ghost and revelations were made to me that changed my way of thinking forever. How these revelations were made to me is not really important at the moment but what was really important was I had to come to full grips with the terrible and brutal reality of the warfare between Christ and Satan and its far reaching implications upon the human race. J.T. this is something you need to come to grips with and until you face that reality you will never even begin to comprehend the plan of salvation for all of mankind. As long as you remain outside the Holy Spirit you will never come to understand the word of the Lord for it is He who reveals His word to those who abide in Him and that is the way it works. You have to be willing to humble yourself and sincerely ask the Lord to open your eyes and He will if you ask and believe with a humble and earnest spirit. It doesn't really matter how much history you know for that is only the tip of the iceberg. It doesn't matter how much education you may have for there are many educated unbelievers and skeptics out there. What has to be understood is there are forces actively at work 24 hours a day 365 days a year behind the scenes influencing the affairs of all of mankind throughout the course of Earth's history. There are principalities and powers at work here and I am not telling you this because I am a Christian, I am telling you this based on my own personal experiences; very real, live, and uncut. All I am asking you do is think carefully about what I am saying to you here. Lets not argue or rationalize this ok? All I'm asking is you think about it carefully. J.T. my words are simply not adequate enough to describe to you what it is like for the veil between the seen and unseen world to be parted just for a few minutes on several occassions and because of that has shaped my life forever. The Lord has saved my life on several occassions and were it not for Him sending His appointed angel I would have most assuredly been dead as a door nail. If you care to please read my story"God's Intervention-A True Account Of My Life Being Saved." That story is a perfect example of the Lord's everlasting mercy and grace and I am living proof of it. |
Date: 3/7/2001 11:06:00 PM From Authorid: 29496 the bible says that many antichrists have already come 1 john 2:18. it also states that he who denies christ is an antichrist 1 john 22-23. now this son of perdition is the one who will come in the near future and decieve many, the bible says even the elect if we are not careful. during the tribulation a man will come into the picture, the bible says from the revived roman empire. he will be given power from satan and will ultimatly become a very dominent force in the world dan. 94 & rev. 13. he will use this power to become the object of the world's worship rev. 13:1-4 14-18. read also rev.13:4. then you have the false prophet who will assist the antichrist in performing great miracles that will cause man to worship the beast, rev. 13:13-15. i also read a book on the book of daniel that explains everthing only using the book of daniel. their is so much more to write on the antichrist, i don't know a lot but if you have any more questions maybe i can help. get you a prophecy study bible, it's a big help. now on the comments that author 18737 don't you know that the god of moses is jesus. the bible says that in the beginning wasthe word, and the word was with god, and the word was god, all things were made through him, and without him nothing was made that was made.( john 1:1-3). it also says that jesus did not come to destroy the law but to fulfill it, matthew 5:17-19. not only did jesus fulfill old testament prophecies but i have proof using the word of god, using the old and new testaments. read and copare for your self, isaiah 7:14 & luke 16-31, isaiah 40:3-5 & luke 3:3-6, psalm 2 & matthew 3:17, zechariah 9 & mark 11-11, zechariah 11:12 & matthew 26:14-15, isaiah 50:6 matthew 26:67, all of isaiah 53 & all of psalm 22. this is not my opinion it is the word of god taken from the old testament 1st and fulfilled in the new. as author 9544 said it you can't even begin to understand it without the guidence of the holy spirit and if you would except jesus as your lord and saviour. you are the one being decieved by thinking that he brought forth lies & evil. as a matter of fact that is exactly what satan wants you to believe. he has you right where he wants you. for someone who says they love god those are some very harsh words you are using. god gave all authority to his only begotten son, read romans 13:1-4. better yet read all the bible, you never know you just might know find the truth. i just want to show you love!!!!!! jesus loves you nomatter what you think, he made you!!!!!!!!!! |
Date: 3/15/2001 11:52:00 PM
QPM, you claim Augustus Caesar didn't possess supernatural powers *AND* that he persecuted Christians. I'd say that's pretty supernatural considering he died in 14AD! |
Date: 3/16/2001 12:07:00 AM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9544 Unknown author Augustus Caesar died in 14 AD so what is your point? Apparently you don't know your history very well for not only is this Scriptural but other historians of his day recorded his terrible deeds. Study your history ok? |
Date: 3/16/2001 12:23:00 AM How many Christians do you think were around for Augustus Caesar to persecute when Jesus was 10 to 20 years old? |
Date: 3/16/2001 2:27:00 AM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9544 Unknown author what difference does it make how old Jesus was and how many Christians were around when he persecuted them? The fact is he did some terrible things which history apart from the Holy Scriptures backs up. Augustus Caesar just like most of the other Roman rulers committed atrocious acts not only against the Jewish people but against their own citizens especially if they were Christians. Read about Nero and you'll see what I am talking about. |
Date: 3/16/2001 6:33:00 AM
Your quote was "Augustus Caesar almost conquered the known world and he persecuted Christians too." From history, we learn Jesus started his ministries around 26AD. If you do the math, you'll find that Augustus Caesar died 12 years before there were any Christians! How can you claim Augustus Caesar persecuted people who followed a religion that did not exist when he died? |
Date: 3/16/2001 10:05:00 AM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 9544 Unknown author apparently you don't understand the big picture. What does him almost conquering the known world during that time have to do with him persecuting Christians? I am fully aware when he died and so on but thats not the point. The point is he did some awful things during his reign and history apart from the Scriptures backs it up. Whether you realize it or not many people accepted Christ long before the term Christian came into being and in case you don't know it the term Christian did not originate with the Jews although the term itself is in the Scriptures explaining how and where the term originated from but I'll let you figure that one out. Later... |
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