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I feel so bad. by Firstborn

  Author:  16671  Category:(USM Events) Created:(2/12/2001 11:45:00 PM)
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I went to the paranormal site as I did get an I.d. there to read some of the stories and perhaps put my two cents in from time to time. But what I have read there is hurting my heart so bad. I thought perhaps it might be a good thing as your not going to get deleted for different things, but I dont know if that is such a good idea.

I have seen several of my friends over there, believers and non believers alike and some of the hatefull nasty names some of my non-believer friends are saying just breaks my heart. Now dont get me wrong, its not the cussing, its the amount of cussing and the pure hatefullness that is going on over there. I dont know if I want to go back as I hate to see my friends pitted against each other in that manner. You want to see hate, go over there. To my friends that are doing this, I know what ladies and gentlemen you can be over here, cant you be the same there and still get your point across? One thing I do have to say about rangerider over there, he is the only one being a gentlemen.

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Date: 2/13/2001 12:01:00 AM  From Authorid: 14175    Firstborn I'm sorry to hear this!!! I like to believe that we are the same weather here or somewhere else. I'm not familar with this other site. I guess perhaps I don't want to be. I am glad you are safe from that here. applauds to RangerRider for his integrety. ...matt...  
Date: 2/13/2001 12:03:00 AM  From Authorid: 23610    Good to know Firstborn. I think I'll just stay over here. Ya know sometimes people give the Admins a hard time for keeping such a close eye on this site...this just goest to prove they really doing a service to all of us by looking out for us. If I want to see that kind of hate I'll just go to a family reunion or watch some of the silly shows on T.V. where people bash each other all the time. I come on line to enjoy it and hear thoughtful things that they have to say in a civil manner. Not that I we all have to agree but the respect is very nice. *hugs to you* -Lady Nyx  
Date: 2/13/2001 12:10:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 16671    msw, your right, I'm how i'm no matter where i go, I dont say I'm perfect cause I'm not, I do some things the ways of the world in which i'm not proud to admit, my friends here at usm know the real me as we talk all the time. I'm what I'm and I'm not going to be differnt any place else. Thank you for your comments and I wish my friends over there would be the same. LadyNxy your right, sometimes we all give the admins a bad time and sometimes I too think they were too quick to delete but at least there isnt all that cussing and hate slung at each other, oh yea sometimes it gets in here too, but Admins are quick to nip it in the bud. Thanks Admins. Thanks ladynxy, your one of a kind.  
Date: 2/13/2001 1:16:00 AM  From Authorid: 3125    Hi Firstborn..I see what you mean..I really don't understand why so much ruckus about RangeRider..I have been here through the whole thing and RangeRider Has Not been as bad as some wants to accuse him of..What is it anyway?..RangeRider comes to this site with his beliefs,as many does..He stood up and taught what he believed..He very often quoted from the Bible..He stood up and said what the Bible teaches..He was a very bold and couragous man..He would only tell it the way he believed..Isn't that what I see from J.T.Happy Heathen,Karma Killer,LSG,Enki,etc,etc.Don't they tell it the way they see it and aren't they very bold in what they teach?..I received that email that RangeRider wrote.I know what he was saying. He did not say what some are insinuating..He was telling Christians not to take part in the sins of the non-believers..Not to become such a friend as to join them in their mockings,their "off-colored" jokes,etc,etc..We are told not to become as one who is not a believer..The Bible clearly states the following..John 3:19-20.."And this is condemnations,that light(Jesus,righteousness)is come into the world and men loved darkness(sin,evil)rather than light,because their deeds were evil..For everyone that doeth evil hateth the light",etc..In 2 Cor 6:14-15.."Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers;for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord(harmony) hath Christ with Belial..(unrighteousness)..Of what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols?For ye are the temple of the living God".. V.17.."Wherefore come out from them,and be ye separate,saith the Lord and touch not the unclean thing and I will receive you",etc..God does not say that we are not to love the unbeliever.. Christians are to do all we can to help them, but..He does say that Christians are not to take part in any of their sins..A Christian should not laugh at a dirty joke or remark..He should not joke in an unseemingly way,etc..He should not argue nor fight..It is a Christian duty to teach the erring..This is what RangeRider is guilty of in many cases..This is what he believes..So..Why call him evil,sick,nuts,evil?,etc..He is only teaching what he sees written in God's Word..He won't straddle a fence either..I have had my disagreements with him,but I refuse to call him evil,sick,a troublemaker,etc..etc..I know where he is coming from..I see such hate for him coming from many..Why?..I don't see hate for any of the ones that I mentioned in this comment and some of them have said and posted some terrible things, especially regarding Christianity..We are to love and show love for all..Showing love doesn't mean we have to agree with what someone says..I am beginning to think that this and the other site are so full of hurt..It is so sad at what some people can actually do and say to others..Rusure  
Date: 2/13/2001 1:30:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 16671    I agree with you, the rest can say what they believe and sometimes, many times very *bold* on the verge of being downright hatefull, but they are coming against christians so I guess that is allright. I had someone actually post a treatening thing to me and his account didnt get pulled. Range never said that he would use a wire covered nerf bat on someone and then tell that same person to leave lsg alone and things would be allright. I mean to me that is threatening body harm if he could get to me. I say pull his account or warn him. I've had so many rude and hatefull things said about me in the past few days, but oh well, I guess thats ok. loves ya.  
Date: 2/13/2001 5:23:00 AM  From Authorid: 13354    I have noticed that cussing is used as a cop out for lack of
intelligence!!! If you don't know what to say, just start cussing,
that seems to be the rule. Have you noticed that??? I won't talk
to someone who wants to cuss every few words they say...
  
Date: 2/13/2001 7:20:00 AM  From Authorid: 11528    Hi FB, I went over to PM and let loose on RR. I dont like the guy and I think He is dangerous in a Jim Jones type of way so I told him he need some therapy. I understand that You dont see him in the same way that I do but thats okay. RR is looking for followers that he can dominate and control. He also spreads discord and disharmony as evidenced by the letter he circulated recently. We came a long way over the winter here and we made friends with one another and the debates became much less bitter and a lot less frequent. He sought to undo all that peacefullness and used the bible to back up his seeds of discord and hate. He wants to pit the 2 sides against each other and have the Christians all obeying him as thier leader. Be careful with personalities like that. Jim Jones was like that. He even met with Presidents and was well respected but we all know how that story ended.  
Date: 2/13/2001 7:42:00 AM  From Authorid: 13937    I went over to paranormal and got an ID, I DID NOT like it. I think I will stay right here. But as far as Rangerider and all these others stating their beliefs and RR being the one that was done away with....You state your beliefs FB, So does RUSURE, Raybone, Sixgun, and many other christians on here so you really can't say he was kicked off for stating his christian beliefs or you all would be done away with as well. He was rude to alot of people. I'm sure you all have not seen every comment he made while he was here and I KNOW you haven't seen personal comments he sent to people. In this case, it was not the message, it was the way that message was delivered.  
Date: 2/13/2001 7:46:00 AM  From Authorid: 27046    I said the same thing when I looked at that site......As soon as I read that it was not G rated I went absolutely no further because I knew that replies were going to be nothing but vulgar and degrading. I am glad that you posted this..........*hugs*.....Azairyia  
Date: 2/13/2001 7:52:00 AM  From Authorid: 11240    I, for one, miss RR on this site. I will not go to another site to "hook up" with him, however, as I barely have time to reflect on this site. The truth will prevail, no matter who the messenger. God Bless. Deb  
Date: 2/13/2001 8:15:00 AM  From Authorid: 600    Well, I for one went to the other site and am a member there as well as here. I think there is a lot of promise in that site, and feel that with time things will change...... That being said, I think that not every site is for everyone...Those who are comfortable there will remain members, but those who aren't will not. I'm a little worried about paralled postings about members there over here. I'm afraid that this will cause a lot more hostility between the two sites, and the members, although I truly hope that won't be the case. I love USM, and intend to remain a member here as long as the site will allow, but feel that being a member of similar sites is in no way wronging this site or each other. There's a lot of cyberspace out there for us all. As for the hate, I see it here almost daily as well, just not so straight written. As for the profanity, to each their own. We all have our own ways of conversing, and none will ever do it the same. I would like to see civility as well, but will not condemn anyone for their reactions. I will just not participate in them. I hope this in no way offends anyone as I try to never hurt anyone's feelings. I'm simply stating my opinion. I have made many friends and family members at this site and hope to always be close to them.  
Date: 2/13/2001 8:53:00 AM  From Authorid: 6867    oh myy...i haven't even been able to get on over there to see this, mybe i'll stay away....I use to think this site was a pretty good idea.....hopefully some will read this and decide to take the higher road and not resort to the cursing and name calling  
Date: 2/13/2001 9:36:00 AM  From Authorid: 1432    I took a jog over there just to check out stuff. Saw some major USM bashing I must say and rather surprised at who is was from lol. I wish that site all the luck though . I hope it doesnt come down to a fight between this one and that one cuzz it would be just the members. Admin and Admin-2 dont give a second thought to that other site just people here are making it a big deal. I know I cruise other sites just to read different things but this is my home away from home . Also I just wish everone could see what Admins see instead of just thinking that so and so is whining to an Admin. Because we check out everything from replies to profile messages and you can gaurantee there is a reason for what needs to be done here . The Admins just dont want to see anyone can hurt or have their feelings hurt so they are "strict" to a sense. Well those that done like it will have fun doing it over there thats for sure (just my opinion on things thats all) I just wish I could yell out CANT WE ALL JUST GET A LONG lol but thats just some serious wishing :-p..  
Date: 2/13/2001 11:01:00 AM  From Authorid: 3125    Sepulveda..Ok..Then RangeRider wasn't kicked off because he stated his beliefs..Then neither was he kicked off because he was rude to others..I see others here at this time who is also rude to others..They are still here..I really believe that RangeRider was kicked off because of his zeal for teaching what he believed..He was a stubborn one and would not back down,nor would he walk away from a debate..There is a time a person should make an exit,but he didn't seem to know just when to do that..After all is said and done,maybe one should not stick around and make it into a personal debate,as he seemed to do many times..God requires Christians to teach the truth,not attempt to force it..God says that one should tell those who are willing,but if anyone refuses to hear,Christians are to walk away.. So..I do think RangeRider attempted to teach with the wrong attitude..Sincerely Rusure  
Date: 2/13/2001 11:47:00 AM  From Authorid: 21867    Yo Firstborn,
How ya doing? I haven't been to this other site actually. And by the sounds of it I wouldn't want to either. I wouldn't be sad if I were you, that website will probably attract the nasty ones AWAY from USM...which is all good in my book. Peace and hugs, AGENT SMITH
  
Date: 2/13/2001 5:24:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 16671    gee, didnt expect so many comments. lOL Banner, I too have a I./d there, and I may drop in from times to time, but this is home. Enki, thanks to you for explaining your side of this and I'm still your friend, what is between you and range is between the two of you, not me. I still am your friend and I still think the world of rangerider, I know we dont agree on my faith or God, thats fine, we all have choices to make. I have too many things here that God would have me do, so I will not follow anyone, except what God tells me to do. I'm leaving in the morning but will have access to a computer a little, so i will check in from time to see what is going on. LOVES to yu all.  

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