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Date: 9/4/2012 6:04:00 AM From Authorid: 64365 Awesome read. I have had these feelings, too, and when they hit I try to discover exactly what is going on. I'm almost always led in the right direction of discovery. I think a lot of people that are being treated for panic attacks are experiencing these feelings. |
Date: 9/4/2012 9:20:00 AM From Authorid: 51876 The Holy Spirit is for everyone. it is the gift given to us by Christ after his resurrection because of his ascension to the Father paying the debt of flesh. There are instances where non believers have spoke in tongues, excetra because of the faith of the believer. There is so much our creator has created in us that I would not discount your experience or belief but to me it is another sign of the amazing wonders of our creator. |
Date: 9/4/2012 10:18:00 AM
From Authorid: 11240
I am going to second what Bruiex is saying: Just because you do not "believe" in the "Holy Spirit" does not mean it is not working within you. What is the "better" theory? That this is God's Work or that of your mind going back and forth in the future and past to be able to ALTER REALITY? Not trying to rag on you, Rebel Soul, but keeping your secret from your family is more likely to play tricks on your mind than your mind playing tricks going into the future and back to the past and through those woods . . . God Bless. |
Date: 9/4/2012 10:34:00 AM From Authorid: 4995 I remember getting pregnant with my first child. At the time I was considering termination but one day out of the blue a "voice" I can only believe it was God or an angel talking to me...told me to have the child and give it up for adoption. It was such a strong "voice" I KNEW it was from God. I had her and she is now in a loving supportive family and I get cards and pictures of her and hope to reunite her with her sister one day. I will never forget the "voice" and how it actually sounded "silver" in my head. G. |
Date: 9/6/2012 7:45:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 5886
The doctrine I was always taught growing up is you only receive the Holy Spirit when you are saved; since I'm not "saved" as defined by their church, I cannot have the Holy Spirit. I was unfamiliar with any doctrines to the contrary. And in accordance with Occam's razor, the concept that the simplest explanations are the most likely, a theory evoking a being of ultimate complexity isn't better than one evoking at worst, ESP, which has been experimented and can be tested, even if with great difficulty. I'm sure my theory is quite testable; it just wouldn't be ethical to do so at all since only real risk of danger or tragedy could produce the effect. Having an invisible being arbitrary choosing when or when not to intervene when such conditions are produced would be completely untestable, and thus doesn't count as a theory at all. Not saying you're wrong, just that you're not actually providing a theory, thus it doesn't displace mine. Also, if a spiritual being has the means to traverse time itself to provide prophetic visions or warn of danger, then you'd be conceding that there IS a way to traverse time; so the matter in dispute is simply whether the human consciousness is capable of doing so on its own. I know all I have is personal experience, but I'm not the only anecdote of having literally seen future events as if I were really there. My body stayed put of course; it's weighed down by the anchor of Special Relativity, but the soul, whatever it's made of, isn't limited in the way our bodies are. The future that I saw definitely effect my past, for I witnessed it exactly. If you accept that such a thing is possible and not imaginary, then my theory isn't so crazy-sounding. The major difference between my visions/dreams and my theory on the intuitive voice/feelings, is my having visions of the future never altered the future; I was only in the past observing what unfolded and by the time I realized I "could" change things, the moment was already over and no new action could contradict what I had seen in the vision/dream. The theory proposes kind of the opposite; the future is changed without actually getting to see what was supposed to happen; though sometimes if you're in the right placement, one can infer what would have very well happened had the intuitive warning been ignored. The common factor though, is both of these things would require intense alterations and the normal state of consciousness, where unfortunately not a whole lot of research has been directed. |
Date: 9/7/2012 11:40:00 AM
From Authorid: 11240
Ooh. O.K. My experience with this thing being referred to as "the Holy Spirit" is not that it has to be recognized and revered as being the "holy spirit", but rather is the inherent factor all of us are created as having because of having BEEN Created. I have no doubt it is what a lot of people would deem "intuition", though I believe that all creatures are born with intuition, aka survival instinct, but in humans I believe (and your post advocates more studying) that it is survival instinct PLUS intelligent reasoning, which is what differs us from non-humans creatures. I am not discounting that people have "visions" at ALL! I knew a guy who had visions of his death (among lots of other things) since he was a small boy -- which came to fruition. He knew Where he was getting this information from, and knew why he was getting it: It was not to prevent his death from occurring, but to prepare his mind for it occurring. That a Supernatural Force is able to transcend all time, space, and knowledge, AND impart a small amount of that onto any one of His Creations is not to equate humans as having supernatural powers, but rather as having experienced a Supernatural occurrence, which, yes, I have. God Bless. |
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