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Einstein's Theory of Relativity: Gone in 60 Nanoseconds?

  Author:  15228  Category:(Science) Created:(10/7/2011 5:00:00 AM)
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“We don’t allow faster-than-light neutrinos in here,” says the bartender.

A neutrino walks into a bar.

— Joke circulating on the Internet

(funny, I didn't get the joke until I read the article)

by Charles Krauthammerhttp://www.nationalreview.com/articles/279387/gone-60-nanoseconds-charles-krauthammer

 

Scientists at CERN (the European high-energy physics consortium) have announced the discovery of a particle that can travel faster than light.

Neutrinos fired 454 miles from a supercollider outside Geneva to an underground laboratory in Gran Sasso, Italy, took less time (60 nanoseconds less) than light to get there. Or so the physicists think. Or so they measured. Or so they have concluded after checking for every possible artifact and experimental error.

The implications of such a discovery are so mind boggling, however, that these same scientists immediately requested that other labs around the world try to replicate the experiment. Something must have been wrong to account for a result that, if we know anything about the universe, is impossible.

And that’s the problem. It has to be impossible because, if not, everything we know about the universe is wrong.

The fundamental axiom of Einstein’s theory of relativity is the absolute prohibition on speed faster than light. Einstein’s predictions about how time slows and mass increases as one approaches the speed of light have been verified by a mountain of experimental evidence. As velocity increases, mass approaches infinity and time slows to zero, making it progressively and, ultimately, infinitely difficult to achieve light speed. Which is why nothing does. And nothing ever has.

Until two weeks ago Thursday.

To oversimplify grossly: If the Gran Sasso scientists had a plate to record the arrival of the neutrinos and a super-powerful telescope to peer (through the Alps!) directly into the lab in Geneva from which they were being fired, the Gran Sasso guys would have “heard” the neutrinos clanging against the plate before they observed the Geneva guys squeeze the trigger on the neutrino gun.

It means that Einstein’s relativity — a theory of uncommon beauty upon which all of physics has been built for 100 years — is wrong. Not just inaccurate. Not just flawed. But deeply, fundamentally, indescribably wrong.

It means that the “standard model” of subatomic particles that stands at the center of all modern physics is wrong.

Nor does it stop there. This will not just overthrow physics. Astronomy and cosmology measure time and distance in the universe on the assumption of light speed as the cosmic limit. Their foundations will shake as well.

But there must be some error. Because otherwise everything changes. We shall need a new physics. A new cosmology. New understandings of past and future, of cause and effect. Then shortly and surely, new theologies.

Why? Because you can’t have neutrinos getting kicked out of taverns they have not yet entered.

All I can say is; WOW.  I guess the science is never settled!

 

 

 

 

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Date: 10/7/2011 5:21:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15228    I remember before they got the supercollider up and running, some scientists were afraid, they thought something that could shake the universe might happen with it...and they were right! Just not in the way they thought.  
Date: 10/7/2011 5:39:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15228    One scientist was so fearful that he theorized Scientists from the future would travel back in time to stop the collider from working, or something along those lines!  
Date: 10/7/2011 5:40:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15228    Yeah, I often talk to myself.  
Date: 10/7/2011 6:08:00 AM  From Authorid: 5940    I thought this was an interesting read, just goes to show that we as humans are continually amazed at the universe and no doubt there is much more that we have yet to discover.  
Date: 10/7/2011 6:14:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15228    I'd heard about it, Larry, but didn't totally understand the implications until Krauthammer laid it out in terms my simple mind could understand. LOL  
Date: 10/7/2011 7:49:00 AM  From Authorid: 19613    This is just something journalists have blown way out of proportion.

The scientists got a weird result and don't know how it happened and haven't been able to replicate it yet. We shouldn't jump to conclusions.
  
Date: 10/7/2011 9:05:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15228    I know DP, the article does lay out that they've asked other scientists to try to replicate it.  
Date: 10/7/2011 11:50:00 AM  From Authorid: 63258    Many of the fundamental laws of Physics break down in the world of quantum mechanics. There was an interesting article in Scientific American about how the basic laws of Physics are only really rough approximations and are really full of inaccuracies. I believe we don't know what we think we know much at all! Scientists think they have a good grasp on all physical occurances and they really don't. Scary isn't it!?  
Date: 10/7/2011 3:19:00 PM  ( Admin )   Einstein picked the wrong particle, that's all. Actually it was wrong to pick a particle at all. Particles are "relatively" densely packed quantums of "stuff" that our scientists haven't identified yet.

Humans can't detect anything that small. In fact the supercolliders are used to bombard larger particles so we can detect what they break down into.

Supercolliders shoot one kind of particle at another kind of particle. When the stuff bursts apart it hits the detectors. Then they try to figure out what the stuff was by analysis of patterns, energy signatures, how long the "stuff" existed before degrading and other measurements.

Kind of like shooting cannon balls at small houses and seeing all the stuff in side get blasted all over. Then telling what kind of furniture it contained based upon how far the junk landed, the shape, how long it burned.. lol.. really.. that's pretty much it.

Earths best most powerful supercollider is not even close to having the power to break things into their smallest bits. (I call it Theron fibers).

Einstein's unified field theory did not include Gravity. Gravity has yet to be successfully included in a theory of everything. His theories were based upon current science and they stand up to the model until smaller and smaller things are discovered.

Earth's Scientists believe Gravity is something that exists as graviton particles. That is why it doesn't fit into the unified field theory. Gravity does not exist in a real sense, like cold doesn't exist. Cold being the absence of heat. Gravity is really only the result of the way "Space" is shaped around matter.

The term "Space" is really a misnomer (humans sheesh..). How could a Space be shaped? Space is a place where stuff can exist or it can be empty. What if Space is actually what everything is made up of? Then the term defeats it's purpose. The term "Space" as in "Outer space" should really be something that is indicative of Fabric not emptiness. All things are made up of the fabric.

Most of what I said, you can research, if your interested. Some of what I said you won't find.

Continuing on from here to explain things further will only serve to make me sound like a nut case. I don't really mind sounding like a nut case. But it never ends there.

-Rad
Date: 10/7/2011 3:45:00 PM  From Authorid: 65081    I wonder what ever happened to Tachyons? The particles that can only go faster than light? Very interesting article. Thanks for sharing. Alienmojo
Date: 10/8/2011 8:39:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15228    Rad, my brain keeps hiccuping and traveling back to the beginning of your comment at the speed of a neutrino!  

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