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Date: 8/3/2009 12:21:00 AM From Authorid: 45630 yes interesting, although Superman committed plenty of selfless acts. Even Darth Vader can be seen as a Martyr technically. He gave his life for the good of his son and the universe. Is Jedism a true religion or just an association of over zealoted movie fans. Who knows.lol. |
Date: 8/3/2009 1:53:00 AM ( Admin )
Interesting, I've been talking about this very subject for years now. Anyone can reverse test this hypothesis by using history. One does not have to future test it. The sacrifice one gives to their faith assures the faith will continue even beyond reason and truth. The interesting thing is that people believe that faith is the desired result of religion and there is no distinction between blind faith, forced blind faith and knowledge based faith. How do you know your religion is true, "you have to have faith". But what about this glaring inconsistency, "you have to have faith". No you don't have to have faith, you have to have the wisdom to know that to believe in and what not to. Just as the belief that all sacrifice, pain, suffering and persecution proves ones religion is true. The more one commits to the religion the more one thinks it is payment for God's reward system. I love religious discussions.. And yes I do believe in God.. -Rad.. |
Date: 8/3/2009 7:19:00 AM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 32806 I am an athiest but I also love religious discussions. There is much to be learnt from them even if you are a non-believer in the diety. To know how you are influenced by certain things helps to understand them better. |
Date: 8/3/2009 7:20:00 AM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 32806 I mean we understand ourselves better. |
Date: 8/3/2009 7:40:00 AM From Authorid: 54444 Perhaps if all our religious and political leaders would kill themselves overnight more people would buy into their teachings. Naaa! I still wouldn't for the most part. Yes I do believe in god. For me, however, all religions are equally hard pills to swallow. Superman is cool though. I don't find martyrdom a compelling enough argument to substitute reason for faith. My single test is "if it works when tested, then belief follows." I pray because it works. I do good whenever I can because it's reasonable to do so. I believe in higher intelligence because I have experienced the results of their existence. I don't endorse any known religious dogma or party line because they all are of human origin, have agendas attached and eventually let you down. they also change, while I find that truth remains constant. Having said all this, I respect all people of all faiths. Just because something works for me doesn't mean it has to apply to you. But for me I have yet to meet a leader worth following or bowing down to. Does this make me arrogant? I don'k know. It is just who I am. I could say more on this but this is already quite enough. |
Date: 8/3/2009 9:54:00 AM
From Authorid: 11240
I tend to view religion as a worship system and not a faith system. Faith can only come from within one's self via their experiences in life, along with feeling and thinking with regard to those experiences. Religion can't impute that into someone, though I do agree that that is what is attempting to be accomplished by organized religion. God Bless. |
Date: 8/3/2009 11:00:00 AM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 32806 Well thought out comments, thanks. |
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