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Reasons Why I Appreciate USM ~Suu999

  Author: 35430  Category:(Interesting) Created:(9/28/2008 5:14:00 PM)
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I was visiting the PETA website yesterday to see what kinds of stuff they had their site (usually just to make fun of their radical beliefs), and I visited the forum because I was curious to see if they had any posts made by the meat-eating side. They didn't...not surprisingly, I suppose. What I saw on there is what made me realize how much I appreciate the USM forum, in terms of friendliness, tolerance, forgiveness, and debates.

First of all, their forums were enormously unfriendly. Everything was for vegans/radical vegeatarians. I hold nothing against vegans or garden-variety vegetarians (no pun intended) as long as they don't try to put their beliefs on me. Going back to PETA's forum's unfriendliness, I noticed a lot of clique-ish behavior. They try to exclude members who don't have their beliefs and will generally call meat-eaters 'ignorant' 'narrow-minded' 'nazis'...all kinds of things. Thankfully we don't allow any of that here. I think USM is very friendly overall. We accept many people and don't try to exclude anyone.

The second item is on tolerance of others. On USM, there are all kinds of people from many walks of life. Even in its old days of being a psychic place, we still invited in the skeptics and disbelievers. PETA doesn't do that, by contrast. They only want vegetarians, or, at best (for them anyway), extreme vegans who won't eat anything that has a shadow. If they find a single meat-eater on the site, that person will be walking on eggshells, all the time. They don't have a separate place for meat-eaters to discuss their love of milk or a juicy steak; they only have entries for posts on vegan stuff. I am so glad USM's members don't act that way towards skeptics, regardless which forum category they're in.

The third item is on forgiveness. USM is very good at that, even though it takes a lot of work on the accused part's to work for it, still, it's totally worth it in the end, as I have found out. The other day when I was surfing the PETA forums, I came across a post that had a dissenting opinion on it...in short, this person was telling them off. The vegans railroaded this guy for having his opinion and gave him no room whatsoever to try and redeem himself. I really don't believe one should have to apologize for having certain beliefs, like if you're a vegan or a meataterian, you shouldn't have to apologize for being either one. Or, if you're talking back to an organization and perhaps you DID insult them in some way, I think one should apologize for the insult, but not for believing a particular way. I am so glad that USM gives the writer a chance to apologize for whatever in the forums, because it saved my comeback so I can continue to make my posts like I am now.

The final part is on debates. USM is full of debates, which is why we have a Debates and Discussion forum. We debate everything from redundant debates to fresh ones. We're open to dissenting opinions and we can discuss them intelligently. Now, on PETA, let's say someone has a dissenting opinion. If they express that opinion, the other members will RAILROAD them. They'll call the I know debates on this site can get really really heated, but we don't try to humiliate the person and accuse them of things without looking further into their post. That kind of behavior really can't change a meat-eaters opinion, if PETA really wants them to join their side.

And those are the reasons why I love USM'S forums so much. Now, this post isn't meant to spark a meat-eaters/vegatarians debate, this is just comparing one particular forum's behavior to ours. Like I said, I hold nothing against vegans/vegetarians, as long they're not all macho about it or something. I do love animals (even though I eat meat), I do love the environment (because we live in it!), I just don't like PETA's behavior as an organization because they are very radical in a bad way. And if any of you reading this are PETA members...well, please express your views in a non-provoking way, and I'll listen. Ahh, I hope I have defused any possible negative comments now.

That's all for today...loves for USM! And I can't wait for the new Unsolved Mysteries show to come back on the air, w00t!

Cheers ~Suu999

How it changed my life:

Don't join PETA. They're very bad news. If you want to debate animal rights peacefully or find vegetarian recipes, come to USM instead. They're much friendlier and you don't have to walk on eggshells just to make a post.

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Date: 9/27/2008 4:33:00 PM  ( Admin )   Thank you very much for this great post. The admins here really try hard to keep the site as friendly as possible. The site is about friendships and connections, not posts, opinions and positions. We all get to express our thoughts as long as we accept the fact that others think differently about the same things. I hope that we have all grown and learned that everyone deserves respect and consideration.
Date: 9/27/2008 4:34:00 PM  From Authorid: 64566    SUU99 , I have not seen a forum yet as good as USM. If there is one i sure don't know about them.  
Date: 9/27/2008 4:45:00 PM  From Authorid: 64123    I would expect to find that kind of one sidedness on a forum like PETA has, or any other forum that is promoting a certain perspective, which is why I don't visit them. You're right though, USM does offer a great venue in which ideas/beliefs from all corners of the world can be expressed, discussed and even debated while maintaining a certain level of respect. George and Ginger have done a wonderful job here.  
Date: 9/27/2008 4:57:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 35430    thank you for the replies, guys! you just upped my confidence in making posts! ^_^
Date: 9/27/2008 5:12:00 PM  From Authorid: 998    That's too bad about PETA. They have the opportunity to share their ideas, beliefs and research with anyone that walks through their website. But it would seem that they have turned negative and harsh toward anyone that doesn't believe as they do. Thank goodness George and I had a different approach and ideal for USM. Thank goodness also for all the wonderful guests that make USM a wonderful place, and we are very grateful for the Chatmin's, Monitors and Administrators who help keep USM as great as it is. Suu99, I'm so glad that you found USM way back in 2001. Hope you stay with us forever !!!  
Date: 9/27/2008 5:26:00 PM  From Authorid: 21435    I've yet to find another site like this on. George and Ginger and all of us make it work. A fine dedication, Suu999. Write on....  
Date: 9/27/2008 5:27:00 PM  From Authorid: 42945    You are so right there hun, that's why I spend all my time on here, there is always something to read, someone to chat with and it's g-rated....I don't need anymore than what I get from this site...  
Date: 9/27/2008 5:27:00 PM  From Authorid: 21435    (one)   
Date: 9/27/2008 5:38:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 35430    ginger, don't you worry I think I'll be here a long long time. ^_^ thank you for the compliments guys!!!
Date: 9/27/2008 5:58:00 PM  From Authorid: 16376    You probably should just feel sorry for people who are narrow minded like that. It must be very difficult for them to get along with people in real life.  
Date: 9/27/2008 7:02:00 PM  From Authorid: 53836    Mmmmm! Milk & juicy steak! Mmmmm! Tolerance! Mmmmm! USMmmmm!  
Date: 9/27/2008 7:05:00 PM  From Authorid: 53836    Mmmm! George, Ginger, Kronk, Zema, Dani & u!  
Date: 9/27/2008 7:08:00 PM  From Authorid: 53836    Mmmm! Purple Skies & CLifford too! U R very articulate! Post away!  
Date: 9/27/2008 7:40:00 PM  From Authorid: 64637    That sucks about PETA~~~God gave me meat to eat and I am going to eat it!!!And laugh and make fun of their radical ways while enjoying my t-bone steak!~~~~~~MidnightSun  
Date: 9/27/2008 8:17:00 PM  From Authorid: 28190    I feel the same way. I chat every now and then on a local forum- but I DON'T mention USM's name for this very reason. Not all of them are mean there, but several are, and then there are also many that aren't really G-rated...xD... USM is and always be my "online" home. I've been here nearly 8 years- and I know I'm not going to be leaving here any time soon, OR Ever! hehe.. Glad you found USM. *hugs*  
Date: 9/28/2008 7:49:00 AM  From Authorid: 21764      
Date: 9/28/2008 3:01:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 35430    @SpaceCase: LOLZ!!
@Amanda: Congratulations on being here nearly 8 years!
Date: 9/29/2008 12:28:00 AM  From Authorid: 61901    Great post and I could not agree with you more. USM is a special place and will always be my online home. Over the years I have been a member, USM has not changed when it comes to how people are treated.
You will always have difference of opinions which will cause conflict in this type of forum, but thanks to the great work of our admins those conflicts are settled quickly and as painless a possible.
  
Date: 9/29/2008 12:27:00 PM  From Authorid: 18928    Good post  
Date: 9/29/2008 8:07:00 PM  From Authorid: 14314    That is what I love about USM, people are very friendly, we are like a big family God Bless  

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