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Date: 8/18/2008 5:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 63026
that's why I love my job, it has an insurance plan...My aunt works for the Billings collection of the doctor I go too. It is a very complex system we have. Before I had my work insurance, I paid $75 a month for Insurance.  |
Date: 8/18/2008 5:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 14754
** and Iam proud to work for them.  |
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Date: 8/18/2008 5:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 14754
iam sure glad that here in my city we have a hospital that refuses nobody..even if you can not pay... and its the top of the line hospital. |
Date: 8/18/2008 5:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 10657
Does the hospital not have an indiginant program I don't understand or the Hill-Burton? Most hospitals can not refuse you treatment.  |
Date: 8/18/2008 5:47:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15675
Well they technically dont 'refuse' you. See they play a game: you poor people can come, but their gonna try and make you wait so long you leave before your seen (or die, whichever is the case). Its not just us, its a nationwide epidemic. Unfortanitly that does nothing for me.  |
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Date: 8/18/2008 5:49:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15675
The private ER claimed that they just had to 'stabalize me' and that it wasnt an emergency so they didnt have to operate (they were obviously wrong and knew it, and I really should sue them). They 'treated me' by drugging me up and telling me to get the heck out. The County ER hasnt turned me away, but the best I've been able to wait in there is 6 or 7 hours and I was still 2 hours away from being seen. I got in a major fight with the doctor there, he said if I left if it was 'of my own free will and not their fault' (god thats a popular phrase for them) and I said I wasnt leaving of my own free will I was leaving because no one would see me. I should sue them too... Unfortanitly suing wont get me seen any freakin faster  |
Date: 8/18/2008 5:55:00 PM
From Authorid: 62849
I don't know what to tell you. Just how it goes in busy places. I have insurance and have waited for a very long time in ER waiting rooms. I waited once with a perforated appendix after the ambulance brought me in- sat in a wheel chair (let me tell you- excruciating was not the word to describe it. It was probably something like your cyst- internal bleeding, severe abdominal pain, vomiting, with an added infection from the appendicitis). Depends on how busy they are. In my experience in a hospital lab- do not go after dinner, or late at night when the drunks come in. Don't go on game night, nor on holidays, and Mondays, Tuesdays and Fridays tend to be hellish. 3pm on Wednesday, I say.. Oh, and no mornings. Ever..  |
Date: 8/18/2008 5:59:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15675
LOL Beags so like 2 hours midday you say  ? Trust me I know all about those times...but it doesnt matter these county hospitals are ALWAYS busy. You'll be there 10-14 hours if your LUCKY...even if your bleeding from the head. The irony is that the first ER (the one who said I had no emergency) had a very short wait, maybe an hour and the second time no wait at all. I cant seem to win grr |
Date: 8/18/2008 6:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 12072
this is why I don't bother with health insurance or going to a doctor. I told my husband just yesterday if I were to be diagnosed with cancer I"d go home to be happy and die rather than go through the hospital system and bills. We're a bit backwards of a country in some respects, aren't we?  |
Date: 8/18/2008 6:19:00 PM
From Authorid: 49976
I dont know about where you live but at the hospital in my town if you go to the ER or are in the hospital or have to have surgery and can't pay your bill they have a program that you sign up for. You fill out a paper and you have to return it within 3 days of being seen. You might check around for something like that. I had to have a lap done and the bill was close to 5,000 dollars but they told me to fill that paper out before my surgery and they covered all the hospital expenses except for the dr since he was from a different clinic and the anethisist. Most hospitals or clinics have a social worker onsite ask to speak to them they may can help you work something out as far as the bill goes. I hope you feel better I know how bad that pain can get and it is definatly NOT a fun feeling.  |
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Date: 8/18/2008 6:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 62849
Yep, I worked in a county hospital. Want to know *why* you wait so long? Because nurses get standing orders for urinalysis, blood count, and chem 7s (or 20s, but ours were modified- called BMPs). Then, for "traumas" add a coag panel and sometimes a blood type and cross. Problem with that is that the lab gets bogged down with ER orders, and those machines/techs take some time to process. Chemistry orders in a serum separator have to sit for 10-20 min to clot, then 10 to spin, and the machine we had took 30 minutes for some tests. That's near an hour *just* for results. Then the doc has to read, interpret, and talk to the patient again. Plus, you get all those geniuses who wait until their UTIs are to the point where they have to go to the ER... that's exciting. Regular labs, plus a panel, plus a possible ultrasound or Xray, sometimes a pregnancy test and STD swab/wet prep. No, you're right- they don't refuse you- but they have so many people going in there for care that could have been handled at a regular doctor/clinic that people with real problems have to wait for hours to be seen. |
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Date: 8/18/2008 6:27:00 PM
From Authorid: 62849
OH.. and I forgot critical results. Critical results in some labs have to be repeated on the same specimen and sometimes even re-collected for accuracy... so double the time I quoted below. And that was for stat orders. Regular orders have to take a backseat (although in the hospital I worked, all ER orders were sent down stat). |
Date: 8/18/2008 8:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 12341
I work in health care and this very situation frustrates me and worries me. This isn't the way it should be, We need to be more concerned about all people across the board who are going through similar situations. i have a friend who works in a medical office who is going through something similar. she has no health care and keeps getting bounced from doctor to doctor, all of whom test after test and she is charging all this, she is basically at the end of her rope. I suspect MS but I'm not a doctor and WHEN they can't get it right, what can we do? I do all I can but it is never enough. After 16 years in health care I feel burned outby our present situation,  |
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Date: 8/18/2008 10:14:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15675
Oh Beags Im sure their overworked (just a glance in the ER would tell that) but some of their attitudes directly reflect money as well (not saying all doctors but Im starting to feel theirs a skewed majority). Im still not sure what else I can do; but Im extremely concerned about my health right now :S |
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Date: 8/19/2008 4:30:00 AM
From Authorid: 62849
I'm sure it's different near big cities- I worked in a county hospital, but it was in a semi-rural area. We didn't get people with money in there. I mean, yeah, I'm sure a lot of people had insurance, but you couldn't tell from the ER orders whether or not they had it (there was no difference in the care, from what I could tell). |
Date: 8/19/2008 8:22:00 AM
From Authorid: 16845
Honestly, your health is so important that I would do what it takes to find the extra income to take yourself to the doctor, or get insurance. Waits suck, I've been in the ER before where I've had to wait several hours to even be called back, let alone seen. (And I know that's small potatoes compared to others!) Good luck, I hope you can find a solution that helps get you well.  |
Date: 8/19/2008 8:23:00 AM
From Authorid: 62679
How terrible! It makes me so sad how uncaring our world has become. Are society has pretty much been desensitized (sp?) over the years. Do they offer Medicaid/Medicare or some sort of government assisted insurance in your area?  |
Date: 8/19/2008 11:26:00 AM
From Authorid: 2030
I've heard it said we don't have a health care crisis in this country, we have a health Cost crisis. All caused by abuse and litigation and interference and regulations.  |
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Date: 10/17/2008 3:01:00 PM
From Authorid: 64662
Where I'm from, the hospital can't refuse to see you, insurance or not. See if the hospital you went to can set you up with a monthly payment plan you can afford. Does your employer offer a basic insurance plan for full-timers? Work full-time, if possible, so you can start racking up the benefits you need. A few months ago, my aunt was having severe chest pains. She does have insurance, but she sat in the hallway in a wheelchair for three hours... She could've been having a heart attack and they just let her sit there. It's funny too because when you walk into the ER there's a sign that says, "If you're having chest pains, let (someone) know IMMEDIATELY", like you'd be priority or something. Guess again... Sorry about your experience. I have ovarian cysts and an enlarged ovary and my mother just had a cyst the size of a grapefruit removed from her uterus, so I know what you're going through. I'll keep you in my thoughts. |
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