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Has Modern Art Lost Its Way?

  Author: 35430  Category:(Debate) Created:(7/11/2008 8:25:00 AM)
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I'm putting up this debate in response to the art posts that have been posted in this section.

After reading about some of these artistes either on USM or in magazines, I am coming to the conclusion that modern art's not what it used to be. And yes, that 'artiste', not 'artist', if I'm using the word correctly. The art movement was developed nearly 60-70 years ago when its style was a real shocker to the art community. American Modern Art was very abstract. Sometimes it was in 2D, or sometimes it was in 3D. But, it was still something nice to look at! Even if you can't make sense of an abstract modern sculpture made in the 1940's that's sitting in front of a business building, it's pleasing to the eyes. Russian modern art was the same way: in the Soviet Union, expression was limited, and the artists used abstract art to make a statement. They used good color combinations and created a tiny world on their canvas.

Fast-forward to 2008. What does Modern Art consist of? Garbage on a museum floor. Lights that go on and off every 3 seconds in a room. Cat fetuses as jewelry (yuck!). Exhibits that have ladies lying out on the beach in cages. I think something like that's a great idea for a striking photograph, but not acceptable as a live exhibit. Then there's animals cut in half or 3D outdoor sculptures that look like they were made in a 2nd grade classroom. And what kinds of statements are these artistes trying to make? I can't find any. I don't see what they're rebelling against in society or government. Their stuff's not nice to look at, either.

There's where I believe the Modern Art movement is lost. It has lost its initial rebellion against the realism of the past and of the new governmental systems that were arising in the early 20th Century, i.e. rebelling about Communism, Capitalism, etc. Today it has become all shock value and no art value, in my eyes.

What do you think about the state of Modern Art today?

BTW, thank you guys so much for those birthday notes! I was AFK this Monday enjoying great food at a Chinese restaurant, I had a great b-dat!! :)

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Date: 7/11/2008 8:33:00 AM  From Authorid: 21764    I totally disagree.. my fiancee is a conceptual modern artist who often does large scale installations based on environmental issues.. Sometimes he has to use shocking art to get a reaction from ppl, to wake them up and open their eyes to the things we shut ourselves off from everyday. That's why these modern artists do these things you are speaking of in your post..to grab ppl's attention because we have become lost to a world of tv, consumerism, and live in Bush's America where we do what we are told.. these modern artists are in fact a light shining through, non conformists.. who says art has to be aesthetically pleasing anyway??? and maybe it is to some ppl and just not to others.. modern art is not lost.. it is found.   
Date: 7/11/2008 8:38:00 AM  From Authorid: 64414    Bunches...didnt you post a photo of your fiance's work?? He is very talented (if that was you.. I think there is all kinds of art out there, enough of a variety that each one of us can find SOMETHING we can relate to. If you dont like what you see...looks somewhere else. Chances are, you will eventually find something that moves you!   
Date: 7/11/2008 8:58:00 AM  From Authorid: 10245    It takes a lot more to get our attention, and a lot more to shock us into action, when it has been grabbed, compared to 70 years ago. Blame the media, not the artists.  
Date: 7/11/2008 9:01:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 35430    speaking of which, i just found some off the blog site lifeinthefastlane.com! they have an article about strange art buildings that some artists all over the world have made that are quite interesting. I don't know if they're making a statement or not, but they're just awesome to look at!
Date: 7/11/2008 9:25:00 AM  From Authorid: 21903    I have seen the art work of Bunches fiance, and it is great. I think she is right about WHY the artists are using such shock-factors in their work these days. And while I am not SO in to art that I understand and get why an artist makes some of the things they make, I can still respect it as their art; their own creation from their mind in the way they see things. If artists just did the same thing that was done in the 40's, it would get really old and they wouldn't be able to move forward.  
Date: 7/11/2008 10:34:00 AM  From Authorid: 33401    Todays art is the recycled art from the past, And Shock art has been around for a while. I'm an art student right now and I've seen work that has been slapped together in the last minute and work with a lot of intention behind it. Not all modern art is stupid/gross/pointless etc. Some artists do have artist statements with their work. There you can read what they see and what they want you to see. I agree that there are some artists out there to create junk work with no idea behind it. Some of the pop artists got on my nerves, because a lot of their stuff was made by other people... Andy Warhol and his Factory, Jeff Koons and his bunch of people who makes his work for him... Just to name a few. But like beauty, art is art in the eye of the beholder. Love,  
Date: 7/11/2008 10:42:00 AM  From Authorid: 21435    "Beauty in the eye of the beholder" and all that. I certainly don't love it all, but I appreciate the fact that someone thought it through. (art) Thanks for the fine write up, Sun999. Write on.....  
Date: 7/11/2008 11:22:00 AM  From Authorid: 15228    I think a true artist is someone who has the ability to create something that other's aren't capable of doing. It should have some discernable meaning and speak to someones emotions. Much of what is created today is nothing more than garbage, NOT all of it, but much of it.  
Date: 7/11/2008 11:33:00 AM  From Authorid: 63026    I think Art has it phases. And they have to be original, cause how many plastic fruit in a bowl, do we need. It is a hard to field to break into...But I am proud to say I think there are many talented artists, who have yet to be discovered.  
Date: 7/11/2008 11:33:00 AM  From Authorid: 51876    Art is Life.that has always been a Artist code.I do not think Modern Art is lost, it just has to do with volume.With are New Age of communications and the worldwide population escalation the amount of Bad Art is seen at a larger scale than ever before, lot's of money is spent in this area.Once one person makes a buck off some idea, a Hack is born.Our whole Western Culture has been taken over by them.Advertising companies have further poluted what real art even means to people today.Your average Joe won't know what Modern Art is but I betcha they will know the Nasher Sculptures or have seen a photograph but do not understand the classification(like me).The idea of anything as a art object started with Warhol, like Farlo said.A Soup Can as Art, Come on.  
Date: 7/11/2008 4:48:00 PM  From Authorid: 33401    I do appreciate Warhol's intention behind his work. To remove all feeling and emotion from his work... but there were soo many brilliant Illustrators in that time who were left in the dark  
Date: 7/13/2008 3:59:00 PM  From Authorid: 19613    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and what is art depends on who is looking. Of course you're entitled to your opinions, but they're just that - opinions. Your personal subjective preferences about what art is and what it must be.  
Date: 7/13/2008 5:37:00 PM  From Authorid: 12072    reminds me of when I lived in Jena, there were these "sculptures" all over the city, basically someone went to a metal heap and welded them together--haha. I'm def not a fan of modern art, including early modern art. For me, personally, to like it it has to look real.  
Date: 7/13/2008 5:44:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    If it's not by John William Waterhouse, (or an animal picture), I am probably not going to like it!  
Date: 7/13/2008 5:47:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    True story. Up North I had a friend who's Mom-In-Law gave her a Dali Sculpture. It was kept in a glass case, and was temperature controlled. So, Lee showed it too me, and after a few moments she asked...."Well, what do you think?". I said "I looks like blue bubble gum with eyeballs stuck in it". She laughed and relaxed and said "Good, because I hate it". *smiles*  
Date: 7/13/2008 6:03:00 PM  From Authorid: 55967    I agree with Kelly, because her point is what I saw in the post. Sure, some art, not all, seems to have only shock value without any pragmatic point for people to look at, and which could be made by anyone. It seems to me that some "artists" are simply creating "shocking" things only for the sake of shocking, period. That is not art. As for the examples in the post, the cat feces is the best one. Maybe the artist has SOMETHING in mind, like cats rule the house and the masters or something, but if so, I can't see it.  

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