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Hate Crime..... ~~Distraught~~

  Author:  62887  Category:(News) Created:(12/20/2006 10:21:00 AM)
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This is actually about 5-10mins from ASU. I'm not really to fond of the area itself.

Witnesses are sought in hate-crime attack (Taken from the Arizona Republic website.)

Michael Ferraresi The Arizona Republic Dec. 20, 2006 12:00 AM

Detectives searching for witnesses to a hate-crime attack outside a Scottsdale restaurant revealed more details of the assault Tuesday as gay rights activists hailed the couple for stepping forward.

"(Detectives) are trying to jog peoples' memories," Scottsdale police Sgt. Mark Clark said. "There may be others who witnessed the attack who haven't come forward."

On Tuesday, investigators said up to seven men attacked Jean Rolland and Andrew Frost, who claimed they were jumped at Frasher's Steakhouse after one attacker saw them holding hands, called them a name and started the beating. Frost, 19, was treated and released at Scottsdale Healthcare Osborn for wounds to his scalp and face after the Sunday incident near McDowell and Scottsdale roads. Rolland, 28, was treated for minor injuries.

The couple, who had been dating for a couple of weeks, first spoke to The Arizona Republic on Monday, explaining they wanted to press charges that could lead to enhanced sentencing because of the anti-gay nature of the attack.

"I don't expect people to accept gay people but when they go out of their way to do something like that, it's ridiculous," said Frost, a Scottsdale resident who graduated from Mesa Westwood High.

Only one witness, a Frasher's server, has come forward, police said. Detectives were at the restaurant Tuesday trying to locate others who might be able to identify any of the men accused of the assault.

It was unclear whether any weapons were used in the attack, though Frost told responding officers that he was struck from behind by an unknown object.

The victims told police they were accosted by two men near the entryway of Frasher's as they were leaving dinner. Others came from inside the restaurant, they said.

Rolland said the first two men saw him holding hands with Frost and instigated the fight. The altercation spilled over into the parking lot, where Rolland and Frost crumpled to the ground to avoid from being punched and kicked.

"All of a sudden there were six or seven guys on us," said Rolland, a part-time Scottsdale resident from France.

A hate crime is defined as "a criminal offense committed against a person or property, which is motivated, in a whole or in part, by the offender's bias against a race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender or disability," according to the FBI.

As many as 23 hate crimes motivated by sexual orientation were reported in Arizona in 2005, down from 33 the previous year, the FBI said.

The Frasher's server told police he heard at least one man, who appeared to be talking to Rolland and Frost, say something like, "Don't ever hold hands in front of me again." The server added he did not see where any of the attackers went after the incident.

Rolland and Frost have brought the incident to the attention of the Arizona Human Rights Fund and Foundation, a Phoenix-based non-profit organization that advocates for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender rights.

The organization, which has lobbied the Legislature for stricter penalties for hate crimes, said it will follow the Scottsdale police investigation and push for enhanced sentencing if and when the suspects are prosecuted.

"This is an isolated incident that will change these men's lives forever," said Amy Kobeta, a spokeswoman for the group, adding that oftentimes, victims will not come forward if they were targeted because of their sexual orientation.

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Date: 12/20/2006 10:47:00 AM  From Authorid: 53284    I have a real problem with the term hate crime. It was a crime and a very serious crime. I hope that the peole who did this get caught by the police and punished by the court system. But they should be punished the same as any other group of people who commit this type of assault.  
Date: 12/20/2006 11:01:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 62887    ya they should....they are having trouble finding witnesses to this crime  
Date: 12/20/2006 11:05:00 AM  From Authorid: 2030    I agree with Wildbob, two people were assaulted and the perpetrators need to be brought to justice. That's all that happened here.  
Date: 12/20/2006 11:13:00 AM  From Authorid: 53961    So sad, so very, very sad...  
Date: 12/20/2006 11:36:00 AM  From Authorid: 36967    treat every crime as a hate crime.  
Date: 12/20/2006 11:48:00 AM  From Authorid: 36967    I agree with Wild Bob, it should bring the same punishment if it was the other way around.  
Date: 12/20/2006 1:04:00 PM  From Authorid: 14464    I don't see how this wasn't a hate crime? What other reason is there for them to have been beaten? I'm sure if they were black or mexican that everyone would agree to it ebing a hate crime, but because they are gay there is nothing wrong with it.  
Date: 12/20/2006 1:12:00 PM  From Authorid: 27534    They should be easy to find.......get two undercovers to walk the area holding hands......  
Date: 12/20/2006 1:13:00 PM  From Authorid: 10245    what violent crime isn't motivated by hate on some level?  
Date: 12/20/2006 1:15:00 PM  From Authorid: 27534    Exactly......they are usually done with anger or rage......unless it is a deeply supressed rage then yu are a cold blooded serial killer feeding that suppression......  
Date: 12/20/2006 1:15:00 PM  From Authorid: 31765    Every crime that harms another is a hate crime, *regardless* of race, religion, sexual orientation, etc. No crime is commited out of love of humanity.  
Date: 12/20/2006 1:16:00 PM  From Authorid: 31765    Exactly, Mercury.  
Date: 12/20/2006 1:19:00 PM  From Authorid: 18527    All crimes are hate crimes  
Date: 12/20/2006 3:15:00 PM  From Authorid: 63725    This is awful and so sad that these things still happen.  
Date: 12/20/2006 4:31:00 PM  From Authorid: 2030    To answer Ghost Lover, No, hate crime legislation is itself discriminatory as it values one victims suffering more than anothers.  
Date: 12/21/2006 11:31:00 AM  From Authorid: 53284    Hate crime legislation makes some people more protected than others. It doesn't matter what your race, gender or orentiation is, what matters is that a crime was committed and the perps should be caught and punished.  
Date: 12/24/2006 2:21:00 AM  From Authorid: 19613    What about a mugging? That doesn't involve "hatred" of the person does it? The mugger just wants the money or whatnot.  
Date: 12/24/2006 2:24:00 AM  From Authorid: 19613    Also, I would disagree with WildBob and BCAR. The legislation discriminates on the basis of the motivation of the crime. While physically two crimes may be identical, hate crimes contain an element of psychological violence not found in mere assault.  
Date: 12/24/2006 2:31:00 AM  From Authorid: 19613    To elaborate: If you take the victim of a mere assault, he has been physically injured, and psychologically damaged to some extent (he is now more afraid to walk the streets at night perhaps). In the case of a hate crime, you have all these elements which are present in the previous crime but you have an additional element of psychological damage in knowing that you were assaulted not merely because you were in the wrong place at the wrong time, or because you had some personal grudge with your attacker, but because of something which is fundamental to your very state of being. When you feel you are not safe because of the colour of your skin, that you cannot hold hands with a person you love in public for fear of attack, or profess your religious beliefs without fear of persecution etc. you are ostensibly being damaged to a greater extent than a victim of a mere assault.  
Date: 12/26/2006 4:37:00 PM  From Authorid: 36967    what if a gay person assaulted someone, is that a hate crime, why or why not.  
Date: 12/26/2006 6:10:00 PM  From Authorid: 19613    It would depend on the motivation wouldn't it?  
Date: 12/29/2006 3:50:00 PM  From Authorid: 2030    Not buying that analogy. Crime is crime. The motivation is always something. and that something is irrelevant if true justice is applied.  
Date: 12/29/2006 7:03:00 PM  From Authorid: 19613    Um BCAR, can you give me an example of a crime whereby the person's motive is irrelevant to justice being applied?  
Date: 12/29/2006 8:39:00 PM  From Authorid: 2030    Murder, does the motivation make it less of a crime? Is the person more dead? Is the race of the victim relevant? No, No, and No.  
Date: 1/2/2007 1:47:00 PM  From Authorid: 2030    looking back, I would agree that motivation is a factor in sentencing and that Judges do have leeway. But mandated minimum sentences based on race, gender or sexual orientation are not the way to go.  
Date: 1/3/2007 2:53:00 AM  From Authorid: 19613    Just on the point of murder, I would say that murder by definition has to be intentional, and that intentionality and motive are inextricably linked. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder#Finland gives an example of a justice system whereby factors involving motivation (or rather the consequences of acting on such motivation) play a part in the sentencing.  

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