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Admins and monitors pm when stuff is deleted?

  Author:  52155  Category:(Suggestion) Created:(3/16/2006 3:04:00 PM)
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I'm not sure if this has been proposed before, wouldn't it be nice if admins pm'ed you after deleting something that you wrote, to let you know why they deleted it? I know that I really appreciate it when an admin here lets me know specifically why they deleted one of my posts or replies and I know that some do, but many times I have no idea why, nor whom to talk to to try to figure out why they were deleted. More often than not, it helps me understand the rules here a bit better, and learn how to keep from breaking a rule unintentionaly again.

I understand that the site autogenrates a reply when a post is deleted, but it says this: "Were very sorry that your post was deleted, it was deleted because it does not fit the USM guide lines See FAQ." That isn't exactly helpful when it comes to trying to learn how to better follow the guidelines of the site so as to not have another post deleted.

Some other sites that I have been to admins make it a priority to let the members know why their comments or posts were deleted (unless it is something like a double post) so that the members can keep better tabs on themselves in the future. How can they as admins expect members to learn from their mis-steps, if they don't help them understand what they did to break the rules?

What do you think? Wouldn't this be nice?

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Date: 3/16/2006 3:09:00 PM  ( Admin )   The admins aren't the only ones that can delete comments. We aren't going to change that. The post deletions have a drop down box of reasons.. not just the one. This is to minimize the time spent monitoring posts. If the admin feels they should respond more than the one they picked from the drop down, then they can (at there option) go to your profile and add more information. I know many of them do take the time to send more of a message unless the post is clearly out of line.
Date: 3/16/2006 3:11:00 PM  From Authorid: 32763    The one thing I have wondered about is why old posts that were made like a year ago all of the sudden get deleted. Why, if the post was ok then, it isn't now? AND, most of the time, it's a complete surprise to the author.  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:11:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 52155    many do radman, and like I said, I really appreciate that. But not all of them do. Like last week when I had a reply deleted (that wasn't done by the author,) and every subsequent attemp on my part to figure out why was deleted, all without explanation.  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:12:00 PM  ( Admin )   I checked your comment from 3/6 and I believe it was deleted by mistake.
Date: 3/16/2006 3:16:00 PM  ( Admin )   BB there are many reasons for this. The author needs the post deleted for various reasons (although we stongly discourage this as it affects our link ranking). Or a person complains about the content of the post saying it is offensive and we re-review it. Or we discover that the post really shouldn't have been approved. We are committed to the g-rating. We also really try to keep all of the posts intact on the site. As you can see from the dates on the posts going back many years.
Date: 3/16/2006 3:16:00 PM  From Authorid: 36901    I've never had anything deleted unless I requested it myself. I've only had one post changed and that was because a word I used offended someone. Instead of deleting, she changed the word then pm'd me to let me know. Guess I've been lucky. I think you propose a good idea though. We should be informed. It may keep people from making the same mistake over and over.  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:18:00 PM  ( Admin )   BB if there is a particular incident of a post getting deleted that you wish to know about then you can message me and I will check it out. Each post has an identifier that shows who deleted it.
Date: 3/16/2006 3:19:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 52155    Exactly Apryl. And radman, then why were each of my requests as to why it was deleted then deleted without explanation? Were they accidental too? I can admit it my reply was bad, or needed to be deleted, if I can understand why. But sometimes I don't understand and don't always get reasons why either.  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:19:00 PM  From Authorid: 36704    If I delete a post or comment in the religious section I almost always personally message the person. I figure if they can take the time to post or comment I can take the time to tell them why I deleted it. And if I can't tell them why I deleted something in that section then maybe I shouldn't have deleted it to begin with.  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:20:00 PM  From Authorid: 32763    Do the admins have a post where they have to report deletions and why something was deleted so that they are held accountable for their actions? Or do they have free reign to just delete whatever "they" see fit?  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:21:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 52155    That makes sense Base.  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:21:00 PM  ( Admin )   Eddo.. If the comment was delete then all the others remarking about the comment being deleted didn't make sense and had no relevance to the post content. Nobody want's their post high-jacked with why was my comment deleted questions
Date: 3/16/2006 3:23:00 PM  From Authorid: 32763    So then instead of the admins watching Eddo acting like a complete fruitcake wanting to know why his comment was deleted, why didn't they just go ahead and give the crybaby a reason why? Then problem is solved and over. Correct?  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:25:00 PM  From Authorid: 36704    I've mistakingly deleted a perfectly good comment before when deleting comments. I messaged the author, apologized for my mistake, and pasted the deleted comment into their profile so they could repost it, pretty simple to do.  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:26:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 52155    radman, I can understand that. But the author told me that she didn't delete any of my replies, and that she understood why I was asking. She didn't delete them, so an admin must have. It would have been simple for said admin to just say why, and I would have at been least informed. If it was a mistake, I coulda reposted it while the post was still active. Now my thoughts and opinoins (and feelings) are treated like they don't matter.  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:26:00 PM  ( Admin )   If the admins have to be subjected to review of everything they do then I have chosen the wrong admins. If there is a problem with anything the admins do then it is my fault. I am not going to look over their shoulders and examine what they do or why. I have trust in them to do the right thing. They may not always do the right thing, but I know it is their intention. I do apologize for any hurt feelings that have been caused by deletions of comments or posts. We are trying our best to help make things good for everyone. That is why the largest part of our admin team is mothers.
Date: 3/16/2006 3:28:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 52155    my last reply was for radmans earlier reply, lol, he snuck one in on me  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:28:00 PM  From Authorid: 32763    So just because they are a "mother" it means that they are filled with goodness? I'm a mother. Want to say I'm filled with all the right intentions? And don't lie to me cause I know better. LOL  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:30:00 PM  ( Admin )   Eddo, I have no other explaination for you that will be more satisfactory than the ones I gave. There is no rule that says an Admin must reveal their identity when making comment deletions. This is to protect them from harassment.
Date: 3/16/2006 3:32:00 PM  From Authorid: 32763    Harrassment or the fear of being held accountable? Sorry, valid question.  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:34:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 52155    harrassment? really? If they accept the responsibility of the role of admin, then I would think a certain level of accountability would have to come with it, but maybe I am mistaken. I am in no way after anyone being harrassed. Aren't banning or time outs for handling harrassment?  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:35:00 PM  From Authorid: 36704    "That is why the largest part of our admin team is mothers." So you practice discrimination.....I don't even know what to say to that, mothers aren't some perfect species, far far from it.  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:35:00 PM  ( Admin )   BB please don't change what I said into something it is not. I said we pick mothers for the most part not that we pick any or all mothers because they are good. Lets not turn this perfectly good post into a huge rant and never ending goading of replys. I explained as best as I can, so further replys are not going to illuminate any dark mysterious happenings or evil secret plots. Lol.
Date: 3/16/2006 3:36:00 PM  ( Admin )   Base, I thought you were a mother? lol..
Date: 3/16/2006 3:37:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    "dark mysterious happenings or evil secret plots"?? *looks for that memo & mumbles*.....  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:38:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    Nope either I didn't get it...or it doesn't exist! :P  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:38:00 PM  ( Admin )   Eddo.. your too funny. This post if directed at anyone in particular would be deemed as harassments. Give it a break. You had a comment deleted not your arm cut off.
Date: 3/16/2006 3:40:00 PM  From Authorid: 32763    Radman, you were the one that brought up the fact that most of your admins are mothers. Ok, let me not assume what you mean. What do you mean by that comment? How are mothers better then anyone else that could be chosen?  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:41:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 52155    I don't encourage anyone harrassing others here radman, and if that were the first time I have had a reply deleted for some unknown reason, then I prolly woulda dropped it a long time ago (just like I did each other time this happened.) i know I am not the only one this happens to, or am I? *cues X-Files theme song*  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:42:00 PM  From Authorid: 32763    Ah, there's your dark, mysterious plot! LOL  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:43:00 PM  ( Admin )   BB, that's a fair questions. I personally believe, with no scientific evidence to support it, that most mothers are more sensitive to what their children are exposed to than their fathers are. I further think that if our site is monitored by such more sensitive persons then the content will remain for the most part cleaner.
Date: 3/16/2006 3:45:00 PM  ( Admin )   Eddo I would encourage you to buy a stuffed bear an hold on tight because I'm quite sure it will happen again. It even happens to me. I like the panda bear best.
Date: 3/16/2006 3:45:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 52155    Spirit Child, what do you mean? I am not implying that there is some sort of evil plot here, if that is what you are getting at  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:45:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 52155    oh crap, guess I did just suggest some sort of evil plot, LOL  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:46:00 PM  From Authorid: 36704    You must have never thought that, I'm not an admin.....  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:46:00 PM  From Authorid: 32763    Ah but you see, a great many mothers now a days don't care about other peoples children...  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:48:00 PM  ( Admin )   Lol.. there it goes.. The Eddo special... Goad people until they tire of the incessant rambling and goading of replys. Please Eddo don't get me wrong. I love ya man but this gets old fast for me.
Date: 3/16/2006 3:49:00 PM  ( Admin )   Base... lol
Date: 3/16/2006 3:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 32763    Eddos got a stuffed Mr. Potato Head to hug. He should be ok. If not, there's always that blow up doll of that bimbo off that TV show "Charmed".  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:50:00 PM  ( Admin )   BB.. lol.. Eddo needs a Bimbo Bear.. I like it..
Date: 3/16/2006 3:51:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 52155    SHE IS NOT A BIMBO!  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:51:00 PM  From Authorid: 32763    Hmmm, a bimbo bear. *thinks there might be a market for that. Hey, MY idea Radman. Stay away. You already have enough of your plate.  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:52:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    Denial is a bad thing....  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:52:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 52155    I don't get what you are saying radman. who am I goading?  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:53:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 52155    *goes into corner and hugs Dart TATer* She is not a bimbo, she is not a bimbo, she is not a bimbo...  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:53:00 PM  ( Admin )   Lol.. have to get back to work now.. see yaz.. Pokes Eddo in the head.. (Just for fun).. watches to see the potato turn brown in that spot.
Date: 3/16/2006 3:53:00 PM  From Authorid: 32763    Ya know, I really think you two (Eddo and Radman) have a misunderstanding of each other. I think you two need a nice quite room to chat in sometime. *Just call that my motherly instincts*   
Date: 3/16/2006 3:55:00 PM  From Authorid: 32763    "*goes into corner and hugs Dart TATer* She is not a bimbo, she is not a bimbo, she is not a bimbo..." as he rocks back and forth against the padded walls...  
Date: 3/16/2006 3:57:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    *waiting to see the spot turn brown & wonders if that actually works*  
Date: 3/16/2006 4:00:00 PM  From Authorid: 32763    Hey ya know, I just thought of something. I bet this is the most Radman has ever commented on the same post in a longgg time! Yay for us, Eddo. LOL  
Date: 3/16/2006 4:03:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 52155    wwhy does the bottom of the post say "happy new year"?  
Date: 3/16/2006 4:12:00 PM  From Authorid: 7830    <--------- is a perfect species and is a mother and isnt an admin...see..it's a conspiracy  
Date: 3/16/2006 4:26:00 PM  From Authorid: 14754    Happy New Year EDDO!!!!  
Date: 3/16/2006 4:26:00 PM  From Authorid: 24924    deja vue . I have not an excellent memory, but I'd say a very good one, and I remember Eddo ranting on about and or asking basically the same things several times before. And then, Radman answering many of the same questions; going into detail, over and over again, but it always seems to turn into a 'but...but....but...but why this, that, why why why...whut didja mean by..." I've watched these exchanges many times, such as this post, and I want to SCREAM out: NO ONE IS PERFECT! Radman & Ginger , the people they choose (admin's) are not perfect. No one is ever going to please everyone, all the time , 24/7. This is a great site, but it isn't perfect. Now, as one who has had a lot of stuff over 5 years deleted, I rarely had maybe but one or two things deleted where "I, MYSELF" didn't know WHY they were deleted. I am one who really doesn't even need an admin to send me notice of why a post or reply was deleted. I KNOW the RULES. Out of many thousands of comments and or I have no idea how many posts I've made, there was only maybe a couple where I felt they were deleted because of a bias on an admins part, but big deal, so what, anything can happen when you got so many people and so many posts and so little time and NO ONE IS PERFECT. G&Ginger , and admin's can't be everyone's babysitter. I've seen some of the most ridiculous questions ask about deletions when all the person needs to do is go and READ the FAQ, or RE-read it. If they do not understand the rules listed then they could message a particular admin, or some old timer that is been around here for a long time. Really, accept Radman's explainations here; his reasons, and don't be push push pushing for more more more. Especially those who been around here as long as Eddo and some people replying on this post. And don't know body go getting any funny notions that is some sort of suck-up reply here. They'd be dead wrong. I just believe Radman to be an honest and most caring man. But he is human, and he does the best he can. He tries to always be fair even though many people maybe can't see that. He tries to look at the big picture; the future, in the best light , the best outcome for EVERYBODY. And Eddo, you're adorable, you're funny, you're a lot of good things, but by golly sometimes you can be a real nudgenik. (<<<<~~~~~Yiddish for irritating nitpicker)
  
Date: 3/16/2006 4:32:00 PM  From Authorid: 55251    I have had my posts deleted, and whenever I did have an explaination, it didn't make sense.  
Date: 3/16/2006 4:36:00 PM  From Authorid: 3125    Oh Eddo hush up your whining!.. It's not that someone deleted one of your comments that made any sense anyhoo. ~ I could maybe understand your whinin if someone took one of your Tacos er somethin.  
Date: 3/16/2006 4:37:00 PM  From Authorid: 32763    Cat, I really don't think this post had anything to do with Radmans ablity or inablity to do his best. This post was a simple post about why it's so hard for an admin to just take a few extra minutes to send a real, live personal message as to why something was deleted. The way I see it is if someone is asked to be an admin and they accept the job, they should accept it with pride and do everything within thier power to do the best job they can. Is it too much to ask to type out a three sentence message explaining why something was deleted? So you don't need an explaination. Not everyone is like you. Some people like things answered.  
Date: 3/16/2006 4:41:00 PM  From Authorid: 32763    Oh and God knows I completely agree that Eddo can be a nudgenik!  
Date: 3/16/2006 4:44:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    Its really my fault. I tell them to do it. I like Chaos. I like Conspiracies. Thus this is part of the Chaos Conspiracy of my own making.  
Date: 3/16/2006 4:47:00 PM  From Authorid: 32763    LOL Wiley, no one listens to you because you are crazy!  
Date: 3/16/2006 4:48:00 PM  From Authorid: 24924    Hi babiebec, I understand what you're saying but typing an explanation other than the drop down standard most likely would not be understood, which leads to further questions, which leads to further typing explanations, which leads to more misunderstanding which.. well, you know how that goes. Yes, I agree with you in that I think MORE admins could be just a tad bit more interactive ; and maybe they are with certain people, or certain friends on the site? Maybe some are afraid of further possible confrontation? other than the initial canned, standard drop down reply. That make sense?  
Date: 3/16/2006 4:55:00 PM  From Authorid: 24924    Rusure, You made me think of something. Since I consider myself to be the absolute best taco maker (yes, I can prove it ) ; I wonder if anyone would be in favor of a special post on TACO Building/Making? I could go into great detail; and guarantee some lip-smacking good eatin' . Yummy.   
Date: 3/16/2006 5:08:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    BB IMHO in a perfect world everyone would run everything the way I think it should be run. Yes, I think that an Admin should message a person because it is a volunteer position and if they cannot hack it they can unvolunteer. I also think that admins should never show any bias when it comes to anything. The problem is this isn't my site. This isn't your site. This isn't Eddo's site. This is George and Ginger's site and though I may not agree with the way things are done I cannot make them change it. They see it fit that it will be best run this way and case is closed. Not that I will not whine about it myself but that is me as well. Anyway, I know it is inevidably pointless to some extent to try to point out what I perceive as a flaw. I would hope someone else could see it yes, but its not going to really change anything. I have avoided getting involved in anything for a reason and have actually stopped caring as much. I might flare up again but most likely not. It gets me no where and tomorro might bring a new Admin that just might be to me worse. It is not my choice to pick them. It is not my choice that they conduct themselves like other sites conduct admins or even I have conducted myself as one. It is Ginger's choice and George's. In reality on the surface in my opinion the idea is actually a good one. Get a wide variety of people that might have different views and might see something someone else would miss. The variance really is a good idea but even if it was perfect to me someone else would find something wrong with it which is basically the same as picking alot of different admins because what one doesn't see, another might. Now if I do not have a grievance another might. Same concept. There are a host of things in my opinion that could be tweaked to be better in my own eyes but I am sure someone else somewhere would find something wrong with it. There will always be replies and posts deleted for who knows what reason that is in the mind of the person deleting. It is not George's job to second guess the people he chooses to do the deleting. Only to choose them. Who are we to say he made the wrong choice when its his choice to make. It will not make a difference and if he made a choice we wanted someone else might feel that was the wrong choice. He does do the best he can so you now have the choice to Give Up, Accept It, and Go on posting; Give up, Dislike it vehemously,periodically leave the site to take a breather, and then come back until you cannot stand it anymore or blow up again; Coninuously Fight it out and get no where anyway.  
Date: 3/16/2006 5:17:00 PM  From Authorid: 46486    I'm a moderator for Discussions & Questions. Everytime I see a post from you Eddo, I want to delete it and leave you no comment. How do ya like them apples? =D No, seriously, I always PM the person on why I deleted their post, and if I didn't, I forgot.  
Date: 3/16/2006 5:18:00 PM  From Authorid: 32763    Wow Wiley, you get a one day pass to leave your padded cell. Have fun! lol  
Date: 3/16/2006 5:24:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    Thanks but I will stay. In here I do not have to care what goes on out there and can avoid it all.  
Date: 3/16/2006 5:25:00 PM  From Authorid: 4309    Might be about time for one of my periodic breaks.  
Date: 3/16/2006 5:29:00 PM  From Authorid: 3835    I am an admin that will profile anyone and tell them my reasons for deleting a story or even a comment of theirs, off any post. I take the time because I have the time, and feel like doing it even though we are told it is not necessary.. It will not change my decision to restore the post however, if you come and profile me with your concerns about it. I do not delete things lightly and carelessly. I have been an admin here for many, many years, and I know what is acceptable and definitely what is not. I WILL confront each of you out there with a reason other than the one given automatically. I CAN TELL YOU EDDO, people DO harrass the admins very much around here when their stories or comments are deleted... as if USM OWES THEM the right to post non g rated materials or add 'covered up ' swear words. Most do not read the faq page, as they feel they already know everything.. it is just another website, right?? That does not shake me away from giving a reason to the person. I can handle any sarcasm out there thrown my way. No worries. I have an attitude, as well as a personality (-:  
Date: 3/16/2006 5:51:00 PM  ( Sir-Admin )   How about we have Sur5r turn the offending Admin into a Toad and send you flowers... Will that help make you happy ?? ~Jay~
Date: 3/16/2006 6:04:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    ^^Who-BTW, is one of the non-"Mother" Admins, to the best of my knowlege^^  
Date: 3/16/2006 6:55:00 PM  ( Admin )   I love USM not because I created it, but because all you created it and I love all of you. I have a problem seeing the little irritating things that are wrong with the site because I'm busy looking at the great members talking and makeing friends. I really can't be here to make the site code perfect or the rules so clear that it's a recipe. I would rather spend my time here sending messages and talking with the great peeps.
Date: 3/16/2006 7:19:00 PM  From Authorid: 42945    I thought they did pm members when deleting posts, they did to me...  
Date: 3/16/2006 8:14:00 PM  From Authorid: 33517    I noticed one thing..and one thing only...This post is some pretty with all those colors!!...**Big Canadian Hugs**  
Date: 3/16/2006 8:15:00 PM  ( Admin-PY )   I always send a personal message when I delete a post,in addition to the the generic message
Date: 3/16/2006 9:50:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 52155    Thinker, as babiebec said, I am not expecting perfection here, nor as Wiley seemed to suggest am I trying to run the site. I just noticed somehting that I thought would help make the site better, so I mentioned it. (and I am pretty darn sure that I have never mentioned this here before)  
Date: 3/16/2006 9:52:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 52155    nor have radman and I discussed this before  
Date: 3/16/2006 10:16:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 52155    and for the official record- I am not demanding anything here, nor am I criticizing anyone in particular. I think that Base said it best: "I figure if they can take the time to post or comment I can take the time to tell them why I deleted it. And if I can't tell them why I deleted something in that section then maybe I shouldn't have deleted it to begin with."  
Date: 3/16/2006 10:19:00 PM  From Authorid: 62849    I agree that there should be a message sent to let the author know why replies/posts are deleted. I've also wondered about this: the admins are people, too- and subject to their own opinions, which do vary. So when one admin lets something slide, but another (say, an hour later) says, "Oh, no way," it's kind of frustrating. I know it would take time and a little more work, but I always figured more than one admin should agree on the deletion of particular posts (not replies, so much). On the same token, I've wondered if the first few admins to see a somewhat controversial post wouldn't be willing to thumb it up or down from the get-go. "Yes this is appropriate," or "No, this post has to go."  
Date: 3/16/2006 11:06:00 PM  From Authorid: 62146    I agree with you acctaully EDDO it would be nice.  
Date: 3/17/2006 7:22:00 AM  From Authorid: 53961    I use to get deleted and kicked off too! Imagine that! Then, I discovered the culprit was those birthdays of famous people I use to add to the birthday posts. I was constantly having to edit those lists!  
Date: 3/17/2006 3:04:00 PM  From Authorid: 18928    I just want to add that I never visited another site where the creator of the site justifies his or her actions and decisions. It is G & G's site, and as I have told them, I have not always agreed with everything that happens here, but it is their site, and I think they spend way too much time defending the decisions they make. I have always felt this way in the 5+ years that I have been here. I am saying this as A MEMBER of this site & for no other reason, which I'm sure will come up.  
Date: 3/17/2006 6:45:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 52155    Vadia, I am not after G & G justifying anything, I saw something that I thought might help things out, so I made a suggestion. Isn't that what the site suggestion catergory is for?   
Date: 3/17/2006 7:59:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    this is still being discussed? It was a couple of comments...it happens, move on.  
Date: 3/17/2006 8:02:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    I can see that "deleting" a comment from you will mean, three of four more comments asking "Why? Why?"......on the post in question, then something like this post. *rolls eyes* It happens to everyone, they deal with it & move on.  
Date: 3/17/2006 8:08:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    btw-Happy New Years AND Happy St. Pat's Day.....  
Date: 3/17/2006 10:05:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 52155    What are you talking about SC? If I don't understand why somethign was deleted, it broke no rules, and I get no explanation, according to you I should just suck it up and "move on?" Sorry, I don't think so. Like I said, if I broke a rule, I can accept that and learn, if I am told about it. It just being deleted does me (nor the admins who are likely to get frustrated at me for continually breaking a rule that I am unaware that I am breaking) any good. But anyway, thanks so much for your valuable input. I have a feeling that I now understand which religious catergory monitor deleted my replies without reason...  
Date: 3/17/2006 10:12:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 52155    but don't worry, I don't plan on harrassing anyone.   
Date: 3/18/2006 2:27:00 AM  From Authorid: 15070    No one-not Admin, nor Monitor deletes without a reason. Otherwise Radman would not have us, (as he made perfectly clear.) As to being "harassed"- I am not the slightest bit concerned here on USM about that happening.  
Date: 3/18/2006 7:29:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 52155    guess I shoulda said "I have a feeling that I now understand which religious catergory monitor deleted my replies without good reason or willingness to explain... " My bad.  
Date: 3/18/2006 7:34:00 PM  From Authorid: 32763    "I can see that "deleting" a comment from you will mean, three of four more comments asking "Why? Why?"......on the post in question, then something like this post. *rolls eyes* It happens to everyone, they deal with it & move on." AND THAT is the attitude that annoy a lot of members here when dealing with admins or monitors. Nice attitude. Doesn't that reflect on Radman?  
Date: 3/18/2006 7:37:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 52155    ^^^^ yup  
Date: 3/18/2006 7:49:00 PM  ( Admin-JGB )   well I for one always give a reason to the author when I delete a story... I do not always give a reason when I delete a comment. But then I figure when I delete a comment it is obvious why I deleted the comment... I don't delete comments for nothing... I don't delete for personal reasons I only delete for "bad" words, or personal attacks from one member to another... and often I ask other admins what their opinion is before I delete something that I figure might be my personality and not offensive to all... one other thing that people don't consider is that when we "check" stories, we aren't just reading random posts, we are checking all new stories or comments made in a particular hour, so often the comments aren't reviewed as a whole but are individual.... the story that Eddo commented on I didn't do, and don't know who did, but I have more than once deleted a comment that was a mistake, in which case I will copy and paste it to the author's profile so that they can re-post it if they want to... mistakes happen... and as for the accountability thing people are talking about... nothing wrong with accountability, but if people want to make an issue of something and argue it, why bother... not everyone is going to be happy... just my two or three cents
Date: 3/29/2006 4:36:00 PM  From Authorid: 32763    Hmm, comments deleted again and still no reason why. Should I be surprised?  
Date: 9/23/2006 3:08:00 AM  From Authorid: 22275    i try my best to let people know when i do things of that sort  
Date: 12/22/2006 9:04:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 52155    it amazes me that this still goes on...  

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