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~~~~~~PLEASE HELP SETTLE THIS DEBATE~~~~The Dragon

  Author:  8820  Category:(Discussion) Created:(1/19/2006 6:57:00 PM)
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I have been having a recurrent argument with someone about when a girl is old enough to be considered an adult and old enough for a man to sleep with.(The man is 48). My belief is when she is as mentally and emotionally as mature as the man. The other party says if shes 18 the law says she's old enough. Morally I feel that any intimacy outside of marriage is wrong. I seem to be alone in my morals.......Can I please get some input from the people I trust here on usm to help set one of us straight even if it is me?????? Addendum: This question is theoretical-it is not about anyone in particular-the man I am having the debate on the subject is 48 years old.. *****HE believes that if they are 18 they are old enough by law.. *****I believe that an 18 year old is still mentally and emotionally a child and should be treated as a child by a 48 year old. I don't believe that an 18 year old should be looked at by a grown man as a possible date or vice versa for a woman to look at an 18 year old boy that way either.

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Date: 1/19/2006 7:15:00 PM  From Authorid: 40979    Oh I agree with you 100 percent !! I don't believe anyone should have sex until marriage. Even if the law says it's ok, I don't feel it is. I mean, I am 18 and there is no way I could date someone who was 48. That would be like dating my father :-/  
Date: 1/19/2006 7:18:00 PM  From Authorid: 62220    okie, even tho this is rather hypocritical for me to say i think that intimacy outside of marriage is wrong as well. however, I also believe that 18 is the legal age and therefore is..legal. But if that gir1 is not ready to sleep with a man that age when she's 18 (or whatever age), then she shouldn't.  
Date: 1/19/2006 7:56:00 PM  From Authorid: 62881    Yep...he would definitely be old enough to be her father. I would hope that having a relationship with a man with that much age difference does not happen. Maturity would definitely be an issue. But to me...that is just too much of an age gap and especially not if it is for a physical relationship only.  
Date: 1/19/2006 8:30:00 PM  From Authorid: 3263    While it's ideal to wait until marriage, I guess in today's day and age it's not realistic. Marriage, and the intimacy that comes with it, doesn't seem to be as sacred anymore. With that being said, I think since a person is legally an adult at 18, I'm going to say 18 for the law's sake, but it really depends on when the person is ready.  
Date: 1/19/2006 8:40:00 PM  From Authorid: 27403    Hi, Dragon! Well, according to most of the state laws, it doesn't even matter what we think! A female is considered to be a woman and can make choices of her own at the age 18. To me, at my age, 18 year olds seem like babies. But, i do remember when I was 18 and I surely thought I was old enough to make choices at that time. But, I also remember going on a week's vacation to Galveston during my 18th year; all alone, as I considered myself fully grown. Well, some 30 year old guy hit on me in the hallway of the hotel, and wanted to meet me at the pool that evening! Scared me so badly that I had to call my parents to come and get me (LOL, I was so grown that they had driven me to the hotel, checked me in and told the manager to keep an eye out for me)! Anyway, do you REALLY think your daughter could be interested in a 48 year old man! Geez, they have hair in their ears by that time!! LOL! Okay, you 48 year old guys, don't get offended! 48 year old women have their problems too! Love and Light  
Date: 1/19/2006 8:43:00 PM  From Authorid: 63194    I dont care what the "Definition" Of pedophelia is, but to me, if a 48 year old sleeps with an 18 year old, he or she is a pedophile in my opinion, and should be shot. I will emphasize that I think all child molesters should be shot and given no mercy, I do not believe in redemption for such sick worthless people.  
Date: 1/19/2006 9:32:00 PM  ( Admin )   I have known a few young ladies that have fallen in love with older men. Seems their reasoning was that they don't have to deal with all the emotional stress that comes with younger guys. These older men were already financially stable and ready to commit and treated these girls like princesses. I know the total immaturity of young men, my daugher has been kind enough to keep me up to date on what they are like (lol). It might seem strange to us, but love comes in many forms.
Date: 1/19/2006 9:33:00 PM  ( Admin )   No, not me.. I'm happily married 30+ years.
Date: 1/19/2006 9:33:00 PM  From Authorid: 53052    this isnt really a right or wrong thing, personally i think it's ok to sleep with a person prior to marriage, but i do believe that if you do sleep with a person before marriage be sure that you care deeply about that person.. though i dont agree personally with a 18 year old sleeping with a 48 year old(but that is a different topic then sex before marriage)  
Date: 1/19/2006 10:29:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 8820    Just for the record we aren't talking about a Love relationship here just physical. Does that info shed more light?  
Date: 1/19/2006 11:04:00 PM  From Authorid: 47218    Your friend is confusing what is legal with what is moral. With small exception, 18 year olds are still kids and are naive about many things. For an almost 50 year old person (particularly a male) to get into relations with them would create a huge power difference that at the least would create for a really wierd/kinky relationship (think father/daughter) and all too many times leads to one person being taken advantage of or abused.  
Date: 1/20/2006 4:23:00 AM  From Authorid: 63258    I gotta agree with Beezleben on this one, except maybe the shooting part. -KT  
Date: 1/20/2006 6:41:00 AM  From Authorid: 11240    "My belief is when she is mentally and emotionally as mature as the man." Hate to break it to you, but a 48 year old "man" who finds himself biting at the bit to have a physical (only) relationship with an 18year old female IS mentally and emotionally as "mature" (or, as this case seems to indicate - immature as that 18 year old. God Bless.  
Date: 1/20/2006 8:51:00 AM  From Authorid: 62503    i guess its hard to say what is right and wrong in this kind of debate; everyone has their own opinion. I personally could never be intimate with someone 30 years older that me at this point even if i am legal. I can see wanting a more mature man, but you can find them at younger ages it just depends on where you look.

but although i dont feel you have to wait til marriage. I think you need to know you are ready, mature enough, and are extremely commited to the person you are with.
  
Date: 1/20/2006 8:55:00 AM  From Authorid: 600    I don't think I would be able to post an unbiased opinion here, I have a 16 year old daughter and would just have to castrate a man of 48 years wanting to have "intimate" relations with her in two years. Ahh, maternal love.  
Date: 1/20/2006 9:10:00 AM  From Authorid: 25183    I think you have two different debates here. 1) Is it appropriate for an 18 year old girl to have sex with a 48 year old man. In my opinion it's gross, but it's legal, so there isn't much to stop her from doing it. If she were intimate with a 20 yr. old, there would be no cause for concern. I think she is looking for a "daddy figure". He is just a sick man. 2) Is is appropriate to have intmacy outside of marriage? I am all for it. If the people are concenting adults. I am 31 years old and have had plenty of intimacy. I feel that I am old enough to make the judgement whether I want to be intimate or not. I don't think that makes me immoral.  
Date: 1/20/2006 10:01:00 AM  From Authorid: 12709    It may be legal... but EWWWWWWWWW!!  
Date: 1/20/2006 2:27:00 PM  From Authorid: 62849    As for the age question- if they just want a physical relationship, that's not right. Because chances are an 18 year old girl is going to get too attached and heartbroken. I don't know. That just sounds fishy. As for premarital sex? I don't see a problem with it as long as the two people involved are mature enough to handle it. I also think that couples who sleep together before they are married have a better chance of lasting longer because when they finally fall in love, the feelings they feel are not clouded so much by lust.  
Date: 11/11/2006 6:02:00 PM  From Authorid: 42945    An 18yr old sleeping with a 48yr old, ohhhh just the thought of it makes me shudder.....it may all be legal, but morally I think its wrong...jmho...  
Date: 11/18/2006 10:10:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 8820    I want to thank everyone who posted in this topic I think that this debate has now been settled in my favor Thank YOU!

  
Date: 11/19/2006 5:27:00 AM  From Authorid: 11528    Personally I think its wrong for an 18 year old to get involved physically with a 48 year old. However she is 18 and should be permitted to make her own choices. If she gets hurt emotionally by the man then she learns. If not then good luck to them. The bottom line is its her choice.  

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