Date: 8/31/2005 5:31:00 PM
From Authorid: 13297
Wow and I was gritching about $2.86 / gallon. :/  |
Date: 8/31/2005 5:35:00 PM
From Authorid: 62915
We are going to feel the effects all the way here in NZ too. Our gas prices are sky-rocketing...   |
Date: 8/31/2005 5:37:00 PM
From Authorid: 62849
Hum. That stinks big time. Just like when 9/11 happened and the rumor was that we were going to have to pay tons for gas then, too. -Beags  |
Date: 8/31/2005 5:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 54406
Insane prices here too (BC, canada) right now where I live its at 111.9 (that's canadian $)  |
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Date: 8/31/2005 5:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 54406
per leter |
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Date: 8/31/2005 5:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 54406
Okay, thats weird. the "per leter" was posted second... |
Date: 8/31/2005 5:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 28848
Katrina wiped out entire cities and I think this has a lot of people scared right now. The economy was already unstable in large part because of the war, and now we have a natural disaster to deal with.  |
Date: 8/31/2005 5:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 998
I think we are getting played at the gas pumps. Our government isn't willing to cut us a deal with countries that will sell us oil at reduced prices per barrel, so we can keep our few friends in the middle east. Washington state has the Alaska pipeline coming right down the west coast, and we have tankers with oil coming into our ports every week. Then we have our own huge refinery to convert crude oil into gasoline, but Western Washington always is in the top ten for prices paid for gasoline in the entire USA. Why is that I ask ??? It doesn't seem at all fair, when I went to Alabama the gas prices were at least 30 to 40 cents cheaper per gallon. Hawaii is putting a limit on how much gas can cost on any of their islands. Why can't all of America do that ??? I think we are just being ripped off, and there is nothing we seem to be able to do about it.  |
Date: 8/31/2005 5:53:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 51061
The government can do something about it, but our government tends to believe in the kaingen (sp) theory of economics. The gasoline industry is an open mark and with the whole thing of supply and demand, they're gouging. If people wouldn't be afraid and would stop buying, then they would lower the price.  |
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Date: 8/31/2005 5:58:00 PM
From Authorid: 28848
If they are doing all of this on purpose then why did Bush come on TV today asking people to please conserve gas. Don't take unnecessary trips etc... |
Date: 8/31/2005 6:01:00 PM
From Authorid: 41744
the main reason gas has gone up is b/c there is no way to get to some of the gas...it is all under water now and the oil rigs and refineries have dammage and had to shut down or are drifting in the ocean.....Bush has allowed for us to tap into the emergency oil supply but there is no way to turn it in to gas so theat isn't helping.  |
Date: 8/31/2005 6:10:00 PM
From Authorid: 62881
You are right GUY...I went to Columbus today to a Dr. appointment and the cars were lined up around every gas station I passed. It was crazy to say the least. On a normal day people don't flock to gas stations the way they are doing now. They think we are running out of gas and if they continue to gas up like this, one car after another lined up for blocks...it will run out.  |
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Date: 8/31/2005 6:12:00 PM
From Authorid: 62881
And for the record Guy...It was in the Atlanya Journal Constitution this morning...I posted it...http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm429153.html....the link to the Journal/Constitution is at the end of the post |
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Date: 8/31/2005 6:13:00 PM
From Authorid: 62881
OOPS...Atlanta |
Date: 8/31/2005 6:13:00 PM
From Authorid: 47296
First off, it is not a broken pipeline in the Gulf. It is a broken line from the pumping stations that feed terminal farms in the southeast. As for Georgia getting most of it's fuel through ports, take a drive to Savannah, Charleston, or Jacksonville, and tell me how many tank farms you see. There was something on television a few months back, and it looked at the very real possibility of a hurricane striking at or near where this one did, with the same potential damaging force. It showed clearly what would happen, and one of the main impacts was that fuel prices would suddenly sky rocket due to loss of fuel refined from crude in the Gulf. The oil in the Gulf is sweet crude, the easiest to refine. That is why so much is used for fuel. Thst supply has for now been effectively cut off. Refinieries from the Lousiana coast to Mobile (and there are quite a few of them) are totally shut down, and cannot start back up until power is fully restored, inspections are done, and the line feeding out of them are checked for integrity. Pascagoula and Mobile will probably be the first to come back on line, sometime next week at the earliest. Ginger, as for your oil, are you aware that much of the Alaska oil is refined in Japan, and then shipped back to the US. Why is that? There have been no major refineries built in this country for years due to very strict EPA guidelines. We are way behind the curve in refining capability. Even if we had a hundred tankers coming in every day with crude oil, there is not enough refining capability in this country to meet the ever increasing need for fuel. It is now wake up time. People have been told this could happen, and probably would one day happen. Now it is happening. All I can say is that people has best start figuring out a way to deal with it. Our own thirst and dependancy on oil is now beinning to haunt us.  |
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Date: 8/31/2005 6:18:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 51061
boy your so negitive. You should try to look at things a little brighter every once in a while. You being such a doomsday sayer is part of the reason people flock to the gas. Calm down. Everything will work out if people just act calm and do what they can to fix it. If we don't get gas back our enviroment will thank us. |
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Date: 8/31/2005 6:20:00 PM
From Authorid: 47296
No, I am not negative. I am a realist. Lifis very real, and you have to be real with it. |
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Date: 8/31/2005 6:25:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 51061
oh, age of reason? Enlightenment? There are more things in life than logic and realism. Passion, faith, hope... If to be a realist means to look on the downside, then send me some rainbows and lollypops. |
Date: 8/31/2005 6:30:00 PM
From Authorid: 61977
I too am a realist and the things that we take for granted on a daily basis will come back to haunt us just as it is now. Well said Two Spirits.  |
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Date: 8/31/2005 6:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 47296
Being a realist means looking at all sides. Faith, passion, and hope may be good for the soul, but it will do nothing about putting fuel in your tank. Now is when there is a need for action. Take a look at the news. I am not sure if you are familiar with the effected area. I am. A have a lot of friends down there, and have travelled the area extensively. Right now, we have over 400 miles of devastation, much of it right in the middle of a good portion of or fuel supply. If you really want to do something about fuel prices, then volunteer to go down there and help the area recover, or do what you can where you are so that others can do what needs to be done. |
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Date: 8/31/2005 6:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 62881
Two Spirit...you are right on. They need power to pump and there is no telling how much damamge has been done to the rigs from the storms...we have to be patient until the engineers can assess the damage and get the repairs done. |
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Date: 8/31/2005 6:52:00 PM
From Authorid: 62881
As far as living off a half a tank of gas...I have to go to work. I live 20 miles away from my job and I have to get there in order to survive...so I will be paying these prices. I have no choice. I have a child to care for and I have to do what I have to do in order to get by. As far as making unnecessary trips to town and things like that...that will stop. |
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Date: 8/31/2005 6:58:00 PM
From Authorid: 47296
Froggy, Priss and I both have already do all our shopping on the way home from work. We make no out of the way trips, and once the trucks pull up in the yard, they do not leave until work the next day, unless it is for something we absolutely need. |
Date: 8/31/2005 6:58:00 PM
From Authorid: 3125
I totally agree with TS on this one..It's a wake up call..We can't hide our heads in the sand and think everything will take care of itself..That's what a lot of the people did when they were warned ahead of time to leave the area because a killer hurricane was coming through..Many thought things such as this won't happen to them..It only happens in movies and those on TV..Unfortunately, many didn't make it because of their way of thinking.  |
Date: 8/31/2005 7:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 22308
i'm going to try to keep my gas tank full all the time just not go places as much  |
Date: 8/31/2005 7:19:00 PM
From Authorid: 62881
T.S....I do my shopping at 4 in the morning on my way home from work or on my way to work if I can't do something in the morning(on days I work)...and sometimes make trips on my days off. Those are the days I will stop going...
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Date: 8/31/2005 7:39:00 PM
From Authorid: 36766
I know I'm not gonna be buying gas for a while, cause I don't plan on going anywhere. & it's good thing I filled the tank up a few days ago, when it was $2.49.  |
Date: 8/31/2005 7:52:00 PM
From Authorid: 13297
TS has my deepest admiration and respect. This is a person with a vast knowledge of a variety of subjects and enough life experience to go with it. I don't want to throw out the age card but there is NO debating with life experience. You either have it or you don't. I have long ago shucked the rose coloured glasses for a little dose of reality and we (this country) are walking a tight rope folks. This natural disaster will be the catalyst of much unpleasantries to come. We have been warned for a long time about fuel shortages and people with the ability to make a difference have long ignored the signs in an short-sighted attempt to keep lining their pocketbooks. Do I wish this weren't true and we could all live on the good ship lollypop and sing kumbaya and everything would be stellar - sure. But REALITY says otherwise. I for one am glad to have recently downsized and to have no debt, save my car. I have much less to lose that way and much more mobility as things in this country change. I would much rather be prepared for a scare and have nothing happen (like when I took a few hundred out of the bank for y2k - only to put it back) than to be out on my tush, starving it off because I hadn't thought ahead... But then again, that's life experience.  |
