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Date: 10/29/2004 2:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 17081
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=3&u=/ap/20041029/ap_on_re_mi_ea/bin_laden_tape Don't let Bin Laden decide our President. Vote Bush.  |
Date: 10/29/2004 2:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 52155
" The government generally withholds these tapes, " until they can verify them, " and to make sure that " releasing them wouldn't do a better " job of sending " out the info in them " to the people it was intended for. " Can you imagine the media playing a tape " over and over that calls for a terrorist strike against a " target and the people that made the strike only ended up hearing about it on the tv? "  |
Date: 10/29/2004 6:19:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 62938
Eddo; can you refrase for me, I don't quite understand the statement maybe I am reading it wrong? "Thank You for your reply" Jason-5  |
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Date: 10/29/2004 6:26:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 62938
Mfrompa; Thank you for your reply, but "Bin Laden", does not change my vote by any means. "The United States Presidential Administrations performace", is the only thing that changes my mind. Thank you, Jason-5 |
Date: 10/30/2004 2:55:00 AM
From Authorid: 3125
I don't mean to sound rude or anything, but didn't the majority of us strongly suspect that Bin Laden would rear his "bully" game playing threats about now? Another thing..Why should Bin Laden hide in a cave? Remember Bush's answer when asked by a reporter if he knew the whereabouts of Bin Laden. Bush replied "I do not know where Bin Laden is and I do not care where he is!" Bush was hunting down Saddam and he wouldn't stop at nothing to kill or capture Saddam, but he didn't care to know the whereabouts of the one who was/is the most immediate danger to us, the one who attacked us on our own soil and killed about 3000 innocent people in one day. Since Bush did not care where Bin Laden was, then why would Bin Laden, who is rich and use to the comforts life has to offer, go hide in a cave? Bush could have forced Bin Laden to hide, just as he forced Saddam to hide in a "rat hole", but Bush wasn't interested in going after Bin Laden.  |
Date: 10/30/2004 6:43:00 AM
From Authorid: 22852
Mmmmm I do believe RUSURE said it best. As for you knowing information that the people may be in danger, do you not feel you should share that info so that lives may be saved?  |
Date: 10/30/2004 8:08:00 AM
From Authorid: 13729
US Intelligence, no THATS a joke....  |
Date: 10/30/2004 8:34:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
The only Problem I have with this whole thing Rushure is that as you said on another post about Bin laden and his bombings in past years is this, he he committed these acts 10 years ago also why didnt we ban together then as a country and cry outrage when Bill Clinton didnt go after him, why now? Why Bush....  |
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Date: 10/30/2004 9:48:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 62938
Reply to Rusure:Osamas main fortress is in a nice comfortable tunnel(Cave) better than most dwellings there. Osama knows someone is comming after him. If the poles show Bush in the lead no problem, if the poles show Kerry in the lead, they'll go after him. Watch the news close, it should start to progress.#1.Video of him first,#2Analize it ,play for time.Watch election poles,Ballots are already being counted here as I write this.One problem if they do "Capture", him then what ? As long as he is alive and out there, They still have a reason to "GOOD REASON" to keep the Administration now, and ask for more money for "Terrorisim". "Sad but oh so true". This will be a very interesting year. Jason-5 |
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Date: 10/30/2004 9:57:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 62938
Reply to Chaser: People like me are reffered to as: Wierd, sick, crazy, out of it,crazy etc. Heck they might even arrest me as a terriost. They are making plenty of "MONEY OFF" this war, the longer this war goes on,the richer the stock holders become. Any way I am just a little goofy person rambling on, "Right". Like I say this will get very interesting.Talk about "Nixon Watergate"this makes it look like nothing. "Thank you all for your input, I mean it" Jason-5 |
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Date: 10/30/2004 9:59:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 62938
Reply to Chaser: People like me are reffered to as: Wierd, sick, crazy, out of it,crazy etc. Heck they might even arrest me as a terriost. They are making plenty of "MONEY OFF" this war, the longer this war goes on,the richer the stock holders become. Any way I am just a little goofy person rambling on, "Right". Like I say this will get very interesting.Talk about "Nixon Watergate"this makes it look like nothing. "Thank you all for your input, I mean it" Jason-5 |
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Date: 10/30/2004 12:36:00 PM
From Authorid: 3125
Tim, the first time Bin Laden attacked us on our own soil as far as I know, was in Feb 1993, when a powerful car bomb exploded in a garage beneath the World Trade Center. It killed six people and wounded 100's of others. In two separate jury trials in Manhattan federal court, half a dozen men were later convicted of direct roles in the bombing. Four were found guilty in March 1994. In November 1997, Ramzi Yousef was convicted of masterminding the plot, and Eyad Ismoil was convicted for driving the rented Ryder truck into the garage. Each man was sentenced to 240 years in prison, or one year for every year of expected life they deprived their victims. On 911, Bin Laden attacked us on our own soil and in one day killed nearly 3,000 innocent people. In 1993 action was taken and many were punished for their horroble crime, but when nearly 3000 were killed, Bush did not put all we had into going after Bin Laden for this horrible act, but shifted his attention to Saddam. Many, including myself, disagreed with Bush at this time and were saying that he should go after the one who presents the most immediate danger, which was Bin Laden. Bush put so much into going after Saddam who was guilty of severely mistreating his own people and he MIGHT have WMDs, while Bin Laden was so very guilty of killing our own...As for "I dont know where that quote comes from but if he did say it he could have been having a bad day or it could have been taken out of context, who knows?"..Tim, I heard Bush make that remark myself. It wasn't taken out of context. I was watching Bush on TV and he was telling us just how evil Saddam was and he was talking about the war and his determination to bring Saddam down, dead or alive. When a reporter ask Bush "But what about Bin Laden? Do you know where he is? Bush replied so boldly " I do not know where Bin Laden is and I do not care where he is". I was so upset and I screamed out, "You Idiot!! What do you mean that you do not care where this murderer is that attacked us and killed so many of our people!! I can see why many had believed that Saddam had WMDs. When he refused to allow inspectors in, then he gave us reason to believe he had WMDs, but this should not have stopped Bush from going all out after Bin Laden, and being just as determined as he was to bring down Saddam. To give precedence to someone who MIGHT attack us, and to put aside an all out attack on someone who DID attack us, is so very ..umm.. stupid, to say the least. |
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Date: 10/30/2004 2:10:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 62938
I am sorry, but I got to Leave this site. I am going to miss you all. My computer has been acting weird, since I typed in NORTH KOREA a week ago,my alarm went off told me I was being redirected an to shut down.I pulled the plug Quick. Then I had trouble posting my storys, cause they disapeared once I had finished them and hit submit.They still do now and then and I keep writting them till they post. Then today I went to go to my email, two of three accounts and it said someone else was using them. I have Two fire walls ,ZoneAlarm,SPYBOT,ADAWARE.I think I triggered "USI" Homeland security scanners. O BOY, here we go. YOU ALL ALL GREAT PEOPLE. Take care hope to see ya later on maybe.Jason-5 |
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Date: 10/30/2004 10:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 52155
THEY ARE COMING TO GET YOU JASON! RUN!!! |
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Date: 10/30/2004 11:24:00 PM
From Authorid: 3125
Eddo, I would know that you are an onery lil stinker even if you didn't say a word. That lil smarty aleck icon says it all!! ;D |
Date: 10/30/2004 11:50:00 PM
From Authorid: 52155
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Date: 10/31/2004 5:56:00 AM
From Authorid: 24924
How did Bush get from: "DEAD or ALIVE!" to "I DON'T KNOW WHERE BIN LADEN IS"? VIDEO: https://www.democrats.org/idontknow/index.html  |
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Date: 10/31/2004 7:33:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
Bush's original comment came while U.S. forces in Afghanistan were searching for the Al Qaeda leader, who had eluded joint American-Afghan military operations designed to find him. "We haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is," Bush said during the 2002 news conference. "I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run. "I was concerned about him when he had taken over a country," Bush continued. "I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban. But once we set out the policy and started executing the plan, he became - we shoved him out more and more on the margins. He has no place to train his Al Qaeda killers anymore." ------- |
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Date: 10/31/2004 7:33:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
I love the way this is taken out of context to make Bush look like the Dummy, here is the transcript of what was said |
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Date: 10/31/2004 7:36:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
He did not say "I dont know where he is and I dont care, or I dont know where he is and Im not that concerned period and leave it at that....read it all and donttake it out of context.....if your going to judge a man on what he says people, for goodness sake at least show all of what he says. Thats being unfair and biased against him. |
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Date: 10/31/2004 7:43:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
http://www.aim.org/publications/weekly_column/2004/02/06.html |
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Date: 10/31/2004 7:43:00 AM
From Authorid: 24924
Horsehockey!!^^^ Spin....spin...spin. "Out of context"....LOL LOL! Deny...deny...deny. Video film don't lie. FLIP-FLOP:>>>> BUSH SAYS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEEN AL QAEDA AND SADDAM... "You can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror." [President Bush, 9/25/02].....then says:...... ...BUSH SAYS SADDAM HAD NO ROLE IN AL QAEDA PLOT "We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in Sept. 11." [President Bush, 9/17/03] |
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Date: 10/31/2004 7:46:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
http://www.aim.org/publications/weekly_column/2004/02/06.html |
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Date: 10/31/2004 7:47:00 AM
From Authorid: 24924
So you won't screem "out of context", read the entire text where Bush said "Can't distinguish.." HERE: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/09/20020925-1.html |
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Date: 10/31/2004 7:47:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
oops,sorry bout that |
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Date: 10/31/2004 7:49:00 AM
From Authorid: 24924
THEN when he says there is no evidence linking . HERE: http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A25571-2003Sep17?language=printer |
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Date: 10/31/2004 7:51:00 AM
From Authorid: 24924
WHY did you post a link about homosexual marriage on THIS post, Sixgun? ?? |
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Date: 10/31/2004 7:57:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
The Kerry fibs are getting downright silly. First, Nixon orders him to Cambodia for Christmas 1968 when Nixon is not even yet president. Then in 1986 Kerry is sitting only 30 yards away from Bill Bruckner at Shea Stadium when he blows a ground ball in a Red Sox game--but he is also in Boston at the same time via teleportation. Then in 2002, just before he weighs his vote, Kerry personally meets with the entire UN Security Council--every last ambassador--to get their opinions. Of course, all of these events are seared into his memory. Too much searing I guess since none of them are true. Voters dontt really care about any of these made up stories so why does he do it? Children often make up stories to make themselves sound more important or authoritative but why would a man who is nearly 61 feel such a need to make up stories? Forget about too liberal to be president, John Kerry is too immature to be president. |
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Date: 10/31/2004 8:00:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
Because while the talk is about lying lets look at each canidate, I see you posting links to show how this great country's leader is a liar but the man running against him is something else to behold and i was just wanting to show that here. here are some links if your not afraid to check them out. |
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Date: 10/31/2004 8:01:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
http://www.davidstuff.com/incorrect/coulter14.htm These cannot be explained, what say you? |
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Date: 10/31/2004 8:03:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
Sorry Jason-5 Didnt mean to mess your post up, just didnt want to be unfair to the prez. I see problems with both canidates and see both sides of the story, but Im an american and it bothers me to see our leader run through the thorns without both sides of the story told, thats all. thanks for letting me reply to your post. |
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Date: 10/31/2004 8:05:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
http://www.vnsfvetakerry.com/kerry_lies_documented.htm |
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Date: 10/31/2004 8:05:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
I guess all these vets all liars |
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Date: 10/31/2004 8:09:00 AM
From Authorid: 24924
Sixgun, all you're doing is RE-DIRECTING. We're talking about the video links to Bush saying one thing about Bin Ladin, then switching. Then you say it is out of context; to which I provide the links to the entire context. Instead of continuing with the discussion on this topic, you post links about another topic, and then yet another like to another topic. *rolls eyes* You speak of lies, immaturity and made up stories.....yeah, buddy, you're only preaching to the choir....AGAIN, which you are oh so very good at. I have an excellent memory, Sixgun. |
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Date: 10/31/2004 8:12:00 AM
From Authorid: 24924
Pssst! yoohoo, Sixgun, the author of this post said he had to leave: Quote: "I am sorry, but I got to Leave this site. I am going to miss you all. My computer has been acting weird,..." |
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Date: 10/31/2004 8:12:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
Well, your correct here, I have redirected the story as I have seen you do here lately but ill debate the topic at hand and go read the link you have provided before responding. |
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Date: 10/31/2004 8:16:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
Ok thinker, he say When speaking of al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein. "They're both risks, they're both dangerous. The difference, of course, is that al Qaeda likes to hijack governments. Saddam Hussein is a dictator of a government. Al Qaeda hides, Saddam doesn't, but the danger is, is that they work in concert. The danger is, is that al Qaeda becomes an extension of Saddam's madness and his hatred and his capacity to extend weapons of mass destruction around the world. Both of them need to be dealt with. The war on terror, you can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror. And so it's a comparison that is -- I can't make because I can't distinguish between the two, because they're both equally as bad, and equally as evil, and equally as destructive". You dont agree with that? if not, why not? |
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Date: 10/31/2004 8:20:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
This article makes no sense at all, read this "Bush, while seeing no link between Hussein and the attacks, said yesterday that Iraq was linked to Osama bin Laden's terror organization. "There's no question that Saddam Hussein had al Qaeda ties," he said. Some terrorism experts dispute the extent of those ties, but the ties are not disputed as vigorously as the link between Hussein and the Sept. 11 attacks. |
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Date: 10/31/2004 8:23:00 AM
From Authorid: 3125
Tim, To the question of "Where is Bin Laden?", I HEARD Bush say "I do not know where Bin Laden is and I do not care where Bin Laden is". That was his exact words. I remember it well. I also remember how angry I was because of his statement. I wish that I had taped that conference. We need that to be aired right about now. I have always cared about where that murderer is that struck down so many of our innocent citizens. That man who Bush did not care about is back making his threats again. As long as he is making threats, then I call such a one a blowhard who is attempting to put fear into us again. Terrorists who actual have plans to attack do not makes threats, they simply do without warnings, just like they did on 911. |
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Date: 10/31/2004 8:24:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
So, if al Qaeda did have something to do with 9/11 and Saddam had al Qaeda ties then, Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11....duhhhh ok, that makes sense. Let me try hat again, according to that article, Al qaeda had ties to Saddam and Al Qaeda was involved in 9/11 so if they were involved in 9/11 and Saddam was involved with them there is a good chance he could have had something to do with 9/11 and this piece does not quote sources at all. |
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Date: 10/31/2004 8:26:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
I believe you Barb, but he did not say that in that statement which I thought you may have been getting confused with another. |
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Date: 10/31/2004 8:26:00 AM
From Authorid: 24924
Sixgun, there were no links to Hussein, no direct links to Al Queda and bin Ladin (with regards to 9/11). Everyone, but the most deluded, KNOW this. At this late date; it has been discussed and debated to death. There are tons of information out there. The fact that YOU don't know the truth; don't care, won't get it; can't get it, can't see it....well, whuddayawant here but to go around and around in circles with the same old "did too!" "Did not!" blah blah nonsense on a message board. Not interested, Sixgun. |
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Date: 10/31/2004 8:34:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
Uhh bin laden has taken credit for 9/11 thinker...where have you been |
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Date: 10/31/2004 8:38:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
But you know what I guess, according to you I am deluded, because I dont KNOW this. The fact that I don't know the truth; don't care, won't get it; can't get it, can't see it...., whuddayawant here but to go around and around in circles with the same old "did too!" "Did not!" blah blah nonsense on a message board, Not interested, makes me stupid.....not going to bite attitude doesnt make me angry at all.....I tried to be nice and will continue to do so, have a nice day |
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Date: 10/31/2004 8:40:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
Just because i have a different political outlook than other doesnt mean anything, look at Barb we disagree and are friends. |
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Date: 10/31/2004 8:41:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
Because I like Bush and You like Kerry doesnt mean you have to be mean and nasty. |
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Date: 10/31/2004 8:45:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
Nor do I, sorry if I have been, and you do bring up some interesting points and we can leave it at that....good debate. |
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Date: 10/31/2004 8:47:00 AM
From Authorid: 24924
"Uhh bin laden has taken credit for 9/11 thinker"...uhhh, I KNOW THAT. Sixgun, I WAS TALING about Saddam having no link to 9/11. Stop trying to sidestep and redirect. I'm not being "nasty" here, just not allowing you to pull switcheroo's, m'dere. |
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Date: 10/31/2004 8:49:00 AM
From Authorid: 15621
Not trying to sidestep or redirect I misunderstood what you had written, my fault |
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Date: 10/31/2004 8:50:00 AM
From Authorid: 24924
LOL ^^ |
Date: 10/31/2004 8:57:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
Ummm...not sure what to say here except, I have NO IDEA why you think they've found Osama. They only got a tape for the media.  |
Date: 12/30/2004 7:25:00 AM
From Authorid: 4739
You know, Jason, I find it interesting that somehow Osama pops up at just the right moment, like before elections. What is even more interesting to me is that someone who needs kidney dialysis and who is supposed to be in a cave looks so darn good! Things that make you go hhhhmmm...*wink* Not to mention, he looks amazingly younger. *hugs* Love,  |
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