Date: 10/13/2004 12:40:00 PM
From Authorid: 48812
Part of it's because it could be evasion; if someone asks you the question to something you don't know, and you don't wanna look like an idiot, especially when a large amount of people are watching you, wouldn't you (now this is hypothetical, don't fly off the handle) go off on a long, boring answer that by the time you're finished, the audience doesn't even care or know what's going on anymore? That brings me to the other part. The general public likes short, simple answers--courtesy of a short attention span. Bush gives simple answers, rock on. Kerry gives long, complex answers, and by the time he's done stating his opinion, most people listening are thinking, 'uhhh.....okay.' If they're even paying attention at all, that is. They're trying to play to the public....and i think Bush is doing a bit of a better job. Keeping things, for the most part, short and simple. Or trying, anyway.  |
Date: 10/13/2004 12:58:00 PM
From Authorid: 54174
I can understand exactly what Kerry is saying. I don't know why some people seem to struggle with it so much. If it isn't simple, these people do think he is trying to be sneaky or something. That just isn't true. He just seems very intelligent to me with many ideas, and wants to address all ideas. It's a shame that there are so many people out there today that can't understand. At times like this I wish I was anywhere other than America. There's a lot of good people here, but then there's others that just seem like they want to sabotage us all.  |
Date: 10/13/2004 1:55:00 PM
From Authorid: 2030
I understand what Kerry is saying also ... very little. He's a master at the old "talk a whole lot without commiting to anything". I personally have a hard time with the, I can do better and after the election I'll tell you how, routine.  |
Date: 10/13/2004 2:36:00 PM
From Authorid: 37101
John Kerry, I've noticed, has some very educated sounding answers that address the subject matter of the president and never hesitate to bash the current policies of the president on the matter. But, ultimately, the question is never answered beyond "I have a plan" and "this president isn't delivering." While he pokes and prods, he never comes straight with an answer. And even if he did, you'd rarely find it in his fancy-schmancy rhetoric. Unfortunately, the answer is NOT "George Bush is doing it wrong." That may be a problem (in his eyes anyway) but it's not what the American public wants to hear for a solution... As far as George Bush, while he's not as professional as John Kerry, has a ground to stand on and generally does not need to go into in-depth explanation of plans that he's already enacted and our working. The public sees what he has in mind. With John Kerry, we hear of his plans but we don't hear exactly what they are. And why is that? In my opinion, it's because he's got nothing to stand on. -  |
Date: 10/13/2004 3:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 24924
Bush people want to hear short, cutesy, sound bites, and that which they understand and are comfortable with. Words which make sense to them (if they don't understand it, well, heck with it), and doesn't require any work, any in depth thinking or concentration. They like Bush because they can identify with them, and it makes them feel really good to be in the same class with Bush (or at least think they are). Many of the issues facing our country and our world are very multifaceted, complex, and require time, study, and a whole lot of patience. Issues that Can not be a simple black and white yes or no as Bush likes to say things or have things said to him. He is incapable of any intelligent thought. He has to rely upon the many people around him to tell him what to think and say. That has been made very clear on many occasions but more recently in the debates. Yes, R1, I echo your "Man that just scares me!"  |
Date: 10/13/2004 3:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 53284
Kerry: I have a plan that will address this situation!....Bush... There he goes again flip flopping on the issue. You can't have it both ways. ( I don't know how much of this I can stand tonight.) I'd like to see both candidates drop their talking points and just answer the questions without slamming their opponent.
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Date: 10/13/2004 4:00:00 PM
From Authorid: 24924
People object and ask "What does religion have to do with Bush and the election?" Because it very much correlates with this subject. And, because the very people who do not like complex, indepth replies and discussion, are the ones who love and support Bush. It is the same mindset, in that they apply to such complex questions or issues such as abortion and or evolution or even a god concept period. In their thinking, it is a simple, black and white: "God did it; the Bible says so. Case closed"; and that settles it. END of discussion. |
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Date: 10/13/2004 4:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 37101
It's funny how Thinker belittles everyone that isn't a Democrat. Or, more accurately, isn't her. Heh. - |
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Date: 10/13/2004 4:57:00 PM
From Authorid: 53284
Thinker, if republicans can only deal with short simple answers how come some many republicans are so successful? I see them running businesses, managing large projects and having happy well adjusted children. ( I know that not all republicans fit that mold). How can such simplistic people do so well? |
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Date: 10/13/2004 6:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 54174
^ They are? lol. Since when? The most successful people I've ever met are usually independants, and then democrats.. unless you, yourself are successful and you're the only one. heh. |
Date: 10/13/2004 8:19:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
Actually what scares me the most is that you think you don't lack any "mental fire" and you have the nerve to stereotype all republicans. IT doesn't sound like you know much about what partial birth abortion is either and apparently, neither does Kerry.  |
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Date: 10/13/2004 8:21:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
LOL@ Smooth Criminal's comment...well said. |
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Date: 10/13/2004 8:44:00 PM
From Authorid: 24924
NO ONE is saying ALL republicans! THE MAJORITY of Bush supporters ARE as I said above. Sorry, but you can't dispute that; you can only try to shoot down or kill the messenger. WildBob, there are many republicans who have switched with this election; that is they will be voting for Kerry even though they voted democrat in the past. What I was talking about were the hard-core, neo-con conservatives who think Bush walks on water and do not want to acknowlege that he has any flaws or made any mistakes whatsoever; and won't even dare look at anything at a careful, in depth scrutiny. And, YC, you've demonstrated in past debates on here that your own knowlege of partial birth abortions is extremely limited. |
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Date: 10/13/2004 8:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
Thinker...don't talk to me about limits...yours are ENDLESS. |
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Date: 10/13/2004 8:53:00 PM
From Authorid: 24924
OHHHHHH no, no one takes that prize but YOU dearie. LIMITED & ARROGANT hypocrite. |
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Date: 10/13/2004 8:54:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
Thinker...you're so charming. Did you go to school to learn your techniques? Please, do tell. |
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Date: 10/13/2004 8:55:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
Uh oh, you used the word arrogant...now who's the hypocrite? |
Date: 10/13/2004 10:40:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 47162
you choose just proved my point when they commented on partial birth abortion! the whole..."we must protect a mother, thus the bill was voted against." you choose just ignored that lil nuance\detail.......that just proves my point..they don't see the complexities....Trust me, I'm against partial birth too..but if a mothers life isn't protected...ugh..why waste my effort...it will just fly over your head :P  |
Date: 10/13/2004 11:28:00 PM
From Authorid: 16671
Bush tries to talk as ONE of the people, not like he is so much better educated , he tries to talk so that the general population can understand what he is saying. I watched the debates again tonight, I've watched them all. When the question was asked to kerry where he was going to get the money for a program he said he would get started if he became president, as usual he skirted the whole question and talked about something entirely different. I've noticed that he is such a name thrower, as like if that person said this or that, or was helping with this or that on a certain committee that he was basically implying that they were FOR him. I was glad to see bush tell everyone that John Maclain was backing him as kerry was trying to imply differnt. Kerry has sit and told us he wouldnt do a lot of things and then on the debates tonight he said different. I wanted to jump through the tv and tell him what a liar he was. I guess like most people kerry thinks if he keeps saying the same words long enough they will become true. Kerry is a joke. IF and I say a BIG if he becomes president watch how fast this country will fall. LIke I said, I'm not a democrate or a republican or a liberal, I vote for the guy that makes the most sense and follows it by actions. Kerry is a kitty cat, he would sit and talk the situation to death before anything got done. And NO kitty cat was not my first choice of words.  |
Date: 10/14/2004 12:02:00 AM
From Authorid: 3125
FB, Talk about lying to the public..Bush lied when he denied saying "I don't know where Bin Laden is and really I don't care." I definitely recall Bush saying this because when he did, I wanted to scream at him "You idiot, Bin Laden was responsible for attacking us on our own soil and you should care". Personally I think both exaggerated a little tonight. But then that's politics for ya!  |
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Date: 10/14/2004 9:52:00 AM
From Authorid: 16671
Barb, have you ever said something that you dont recall saying? Or had what you did say , misconscrewed? But yep that is politics for ya. |
Date: 10/14/2004 5:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 55967
We need Bush to follow because he is a simple direct man who we can let say yes or no to good or bad stuff and Kerry says yes and no both and is too confusing to follow. I have a lot of people I follow who say the same thing. That's why I follow them and say what they say.  |
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Date: 10/14/2004 5:55:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 47162
lol..you wanna talk about talking one thing then doing another! Bush who says he wants freedom for all, yet is allies with Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan! The saudi's have loose links to terror, and abuse their own women. Pakistans leader came to power through a hostile take over! This is who Bush is allies with! Yet he says he's so for freedom! Talk about double talk. |
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Date: 10/14/2004 7:01:00 PM
From Authorid: 3125
Deb, I watched that discussion and in that discussion Bush was telling us about how evil Saddam is. When a reporter asked him "Where is Bin Laden?" Bush said "I really don't know where Bin Laden is and I really don't care where he is." His message wasn't misconstrued. As for him not remembering making such a statement..How could anyone forget making such a statement about a man who was responsible for killing so many of our own? |
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Date: 10/15/2004 8:14:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
R1...nothing you say "flys over my head" it just goes in one ear and out the other. I don't pay attention to irrational thoughts by those who are just trying to get attention. Please check yourself, you're in need of a dose of reality. |
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Date: 10/15/2004 8:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
And one other thing...I never proved any point for you with anything I said. How could I, there is no point to be made from this post...other than it's solely YOUR OPINION. |
Date: 10/18/2004 12:35:00 PM
From Authorid: 37900
I confess I do not understand Senator Kerry's nuanced replies. I suppose that makes me an ignorant Republican, but I am willing to learn. Can anyone give me a cohesive statement, document or book that explains the Senator's positions on Iraq? To me, he seems to have ideas that, sooner or later, appeal to everyone. Whatever the issue, he has all viewpoints covered. He is a political chameleon, changing to fit the crowd he is addressing. IMO, he has no core values. However, his vote against the partial-birth abortion ban is not nuanced; it's ignorant. First, because partial-birth abortions are never necessary; hence, there is no danger to the mother. Second, because the procedure is barbaric and should be part of Amnesty International's list of inhumane treatments. Call me simple, but I've never heard Senator Kerry take a consistent stand on anything except raising taxes and increasing the control of the federal government.  |
Date: 10/18/2004 3:34:00 PM
From Authorid: 60792
I'm sorry You Choose, but I just don't like your debating tone. You don't offer facts on why you think this is so or whatnot, you just call other people hypocritical idiots instead of looking at yourself first. You aren't the icing on the cake....so get over it. I agree with R1 and Thinker, Bush tries for the ignorant people...poeple that don't know any better or the ones that don't care enough to think about things. I personally don't like Bush because of this whole "war on terrorism"....he was fine with me until he stated that.  |
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Date: 10/18/2004 5:36:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
Vampire Kiss...considering your history of posts and lack of objectivity...your opinion of me, means NOTHING to me. You need to get over it and quit taking sides in a debate when you obviously are clueless as to who starting saying what to whom. |
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Date: 10/18/2004 5:38:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
AND ANOTHER THING....DON'T put words in my mouth. I never called anyone an idiot. My intelligence was insulted first. Please learn to read carefully and pay attention before you open you mouth. Thanks. |
