Date: 10/8/2004 1:15:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 53900
Another thing and I may be wrong about this but I really dont think screaming at fifty kids is really going to get you anywhere...and I personally have witnessed how he screams at these kids. He was nearly a half of a block away and stopped the bus after my kids got off the bus and was yelling at the them I culd not make out what he was saying but I could tell he was not yelling purely because he wanted everyone to hear him. It sounded to me like he was ready to explode at that point. I reported this to the principal and I do intend to have a meeting with the school and his supervisor over how he spoke to me...right now I am still kind of upset because in my opinion I dont think he is handling this situation very well...even after I told him I talked to my son and emphasized the reasons for him to be respectful to him and to stay in his seat and my son behaved very well today on the bus.  |
Date: 10/8/2004 2:51:00 PM
From Authorid: 62915
OK just a question. Is your boy a special needs child as in being mentally disabled or is he requesting him to be put on a special bus because he is "rude"? From what you have said I don't think the bus driver is being very co-operative or very fair. I think the school needs to be involved at this point. Has he been like this to any other child? If he has you might like to talk to their parents and go to the school together. Power in numbers  Good luck and keep us posted. Ghost-Chick  |
Date: 10/8/2004 3:15:00 PM
From Authorid: 25390
I would keep pushing the school to look into it. Are there cameras installed on the bus? If not, maybe you could talk to them about installing one on his bus. This way, everyone has proof and doesn't go by just word of mouth.  |
Date: 10/8/2004 3:22:00 PM
From Authorid: 12876
well first off, i would call the superintendants off ice and speak to them, secondly a child misbehaving on the bus should not be tolerated, all children's safety is at risks if a driver is sidetracked, a driver should not have to give rewards for a child to be good, if other children are picking a fight, don't wait until it becomes a problem where your son gets wrote up bring it to the school'sd attention first, my granddaughter was going through a similair thing recently, I sat her down and had her go over the story many times, and pointed out, while this boy should not have twisted her arm, she should not have opened her mouth and told him don't do this or that, followed by shoving him when he said he would if he wanted to. It takes respect all around, good luck  |
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Date: 10/8/2004 3:41:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 53900
I agree that the bad behavior should not be tolerated however I dont agree that rewards should not be used. My son does not respond to the negative as much as he does to positives and using positive reinforcement for good behavior reinforces the good behavior...as for if my son is special needs he is not retarded but he does have special needs...he is in a SLD class for part of the day and because of his special needs he gets frustrated easily. He is about a grade behind his peers...he just turned seven in the end of July which is the same age as most first graders at his school but he is in second grade so he struggles....after talking to my son both yesterday and today he felt that the bus driver was ignoring the fact that he waa getting picked on and bossed around by older kids and was angry at him. He still has a hard time expressing emotions well and when he is upset instead of explaining what is bothering him he lashes out...the biggest problem he has is communication. He has a some problems with speech and that is the main thing that is holding him back in school...basically my opinion is that because of his past primarily kindergarten he is being judged over that. He was barely five when he started and the psychologist said emotionally he was about a year behind maybe a little more because he was very sheltered...I know that it is my fault he is sheltered but I was overly protective of him as a baby and toddler. He was essentially with me 24 hours a day from the day he was born to the day he started school. Anyhow the bus driver did call today and tell me that his behavior did a complete 180 today. I do still intend to speak to his supervisor because in my opinion he spoke to me inappriately and completely dismissed the possibility of it being anything otehr then Nick causing these problems. That is unfair to him because if it is another kid then he is allowing that kid to get away with it while my son gets punished for both of them |
Date: 10/8/2004 3:44:00 PM
From Authorid: 28767
I remember when I was 13 and i was on the bus. And I didn't let this bigger girl sit on the bus beside me. I called her a bad name. she slapped me and we got in a huge fight. I felt bad afterwards. We both had to apologize to each other. And after one month of being grounded. Lets say I never got in a fight again. I duno its your call. good Luck. Peace Out..  |
Date: 10/8/2004 4:39:00 PM
From Authorid: 47218
hm...could you go above the busdriver and speak to a supervisor? You run the risk of ticking the busdriver off, but since he's already ready to kick your son off the bus, I think you might as well give it a try. Maybe the supervisor could mediate between you and the driver so you could come to an understanding. From what I've heard, they have to be very careful about how they treat special needs kids, cuz they can get in big trouble.  |
Date: 10/8/2004 4:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 24003
I honestly dont know what to say besides, I wish you the best.  |
Date: 10/8/2004 8:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 62881
You are doing the right thing by taking up this issue with the driver first. If he does nothing or offers any solution then go to his supervisor. If you get no satisfaction fro the busdriver's supervisor, then go to the supervisor's supervisor. Just follow this chain of command until you get to the superintendant of schools. It doesn't matter if this ticks the bus driver off or not, he isn't respecting your wishes or point of view. Nor is he offering to help solve the problem,. It will be his loss....Green Eyed Froggy  |
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Date: 10/8/2004 9:35:00 PM
From Authorid: 47218
It does matter that you tick the bus driver off if you are trying to resolve the problem with him directly. But since he seeems to be beyond cooperation, then you have to seek other means. |
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Date: 10/9/2004 3:14:00 AM
From Authorid: 62915
Surely a reward for your son would be if he behaves on the bus the driver says thankyou? Would that work? Ghost-Chick |
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Date: 10/9/2004 8:44:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 53900
You know the other thign that bothers me is I have also seen how other kids behave on the bus...alot of them are in and out of their seats, screaming, jumping up and down etc etc...the thing the bus driver kept harping on is the fact that my son told him he is not his boss and that he doesnt have to listen to him...well that was not right and like I said my son apologized and he did feel bad after I explained why what he had been doing was so bad. But when you have dozens of kids not behaving and the busdriver acceptign it so long as they are not disrespectful to him that is not fair to him. I guess that is probably what was bothering me the most and the fact that it was maybe four incidents out of probably 80 bus trips. That is not a huge percentage in my opinion and moving him is such a drastic solution to a simple problem. Just me talking to him improved the situation and being as though he is still young he will still need to be reminded what is acceptable and what isnt. But anyhow I just thought maybe it was just my perception...I have talked to alot of people about this and most of them agree that the bus driver is just ticked that he was disrespectful and feels that no child should eveer be disrespectful to him no matter what. WHile I agree a child shouldnt be disrespectful an adult should also treat the kids he/she is around with the same respect he expects from them. |
