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Date: 10/6/2004 12:38:00 PM
From Authorid: 50678
I know Bush wants the draft back!! Although that could be a ruimer(sp). If it comes back and Unknown Spirits(Jason) gets drafted, we have joked about going to Canada!! I won't let them take him, and he does want to go!! So I am praying it doesn't come back!!  |
Date: 10/6/2004 12:44:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 16671
I had not heard about bush wanting it back, if he does I applaude him. I know your feelings well, I have two sons that would be of age and would not want them to go, but they are no better then anyone else, and I would pray big time for their well fare.  |
Date: 10/6/2004 12:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 35178
I agree.  |
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Date: 10/6/2004 12:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 35178
( I think the rumor about the draft started from a commercial i heard about being on MTV, it showed a party and someone came in and said they had been drafted, the party stopped and then the ad encouraged you to go out and vote.) What the media won't do. I think its pretty clear what they are saying. And who they are trying to say it about. But they are just trying to instill an idea that hasn't even been brought up as an issue. |
Date: 10/6/2004 12:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 53052
the first thing that comes to mind is "the land of the free" but if you instill the draft do people still have "freedom" when they are forced to do something some really dont want to do?  |
Date: 10/6/2004 1:12:00 PM
From Authorid: 15228
A bill a democrat put forth on the draft was voted down yesterday 400 (and something) to two...Unknown Spirits and everyone else can quit worrying for now. Just about everyone I know is either in the military or connected to the military and no one...not-one-single-person I've talked to wants to serve along someone who has been drafted...that isn't to say that there aren't some military people who want the draft...just none I know. We have *one* of the best militaries in the world and that is due to it being voluntary. I do agree with Two-Spirit on the thoughts posted, why should some serve and others not? What I don't agree with is this issue being used as a scare tactic by another party to suck up votes.  |
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Date: 10/6/2004 1:27:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 16671
Thanks shortAngel., Hi Midnightly, there are some things that we have to put first, there are things now that are forced upon us that we dont like, some of them good some of them bad depending on ones opinion. I mean our gas taxes are raised too high, yet there is nothing we can do about that. We forced to wear seatbelts even tho its been proven that some deaths were because of people wearing their belt, were forced to carry car insurance. Now some of these things are good, some are bad. Our kids by law have to attend school. BUT while we dont have all the freedoms we would like, such as lots of places do not support free enterprise and there are so many permits ya have to get just to build a addition on your own home, but if you think about we have more freedoms then most places in this world. We are free to eat what we want, we are free to travel when we want and not have to stop at each stateline and get permission from someone to carry on, we are free to strike, we are free to go to church or not go to church, we are free to speak as we want to, we are free to do so many things, things we take for granted, but without a military how long are THESE freedoms going to last? |
Date: 10/6/2004 1:27:00 PM
From Authorid: 36704
I agree with Kelly, and lmfao your comments were deleted.  |
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Date: 10/6/2004 1:32:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 16671
Kelly, I dont agree with any kind of scare tactics used in any situation, but the thing is the people that say they wouldnt want to serve with those that have been drafted and I can see the point on this, thinking they will not give their all, but that is wrong, many men were drafted in the past and some went on to be heros, were men of honor. Many drafted fought and lived, fought and died and people that would think less of a drafted person should not do so. Plus the military does weed out the bad ones, or at least tries to do so in the first six weeks. Thanks for stopping by. |
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Date: 10/6/2004 1:41:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 16671
Thanks base. To all, I may not get back here often as the phone is used for bussiness at certain times of the day. But I will get back here as often as I can. |
Date: 10/6/2004 1:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 2030
Yes Democratic congressman Rangel even voted against his own bill yesterday. More proof nthat it was a ploy and a scare tactic. So for all who can't bear the thought of their precious little num num going off to war can rest easy. And also rest easy in the knowledge that other people with a sense of duty, service and pride are out there not only in Iraq but around the world looking out for you.  |
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Date: 10/6/2004 2:16:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 16671
A big Amen Bcar, its a tough job but someone has to do it. |
Date: 10/6/2004 4:15:00 PM
From Authorid: 17081
Well said, Kelly  |
Date: 10/6/2004 4:29:00 PM
From Authorid: 19613
Ah the bliss of living in a tiny neutral country  Our cops don't even carry guns  |
Date: 10/6/2004 5:00:00 PM
From Authorid: 62787
i disagree on the draft...looks like 400 said so too. its not because they are "better"..its more of the thought of a loved one going to a battle and most likely getting killed. never seeing them again except in a casket. thats why many dont want their children to be drafted. - Blade of the Samurai  |
Date: 10/6/2004 6:20:00 PM
From Authorid: 47296
When I listed those in my family who were drafted, there was one that I left out, though not intentionaly. That is an uncle that I never met, MSG OLEN BERRY WILLIAMS, K CO 31 INF RGT 7 INF DIV, who was drafted in WWII, and stayed in the service after that war to see service in Korea. His status since December 12th, 1950 is Died While Missing (MIA). He died at the Chosin Reservoir. According to the report filed by his platioon leiutenant, who was one of only a handful of K Co. to survive, although wounded, he could have made it out with the rest of the survivors. He chose instead to remain behind with those too wounded to escape the Chinese and Korean onslaught. No one ever wants to see a loved one die in battle. MSG Williams had brothers and sisters that wanted him to return home and start his own family. Now we waiy for the return of his remains so that we can give them the proper burial that is so deserved.  |
Date: 10/6/2004 6:37:00 PM
From Authorid: 37101
The draft, unless there is a catastrophic event (war with China), will never be reinstated. -  |
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Date: 10/6/2004 7:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 47296
SC, when I joined in 1979, I said I would never see armed conflict unless Russia decided to go for it. Little did I know that within the next 4 years I would see Lebanon, Grenada, and Central America. I learned quick to never say never. |
Date: 10/6/2004 7:50:00 PM
From Authorid: 61977
I agree with you completely Firstborn as far as the DRAFT is concerned, now about Bush and Kerry I honestly do not care for either one of them. Good Post though nontheless.  |
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Date: 10/6/2004 10:54:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 16671
Dark Phoenix, they should. Blade, not all come home in a casket. Two spirits, I'm honored to have you on my post. Sorry smooth criminal, it will be re instated. Yep two spirits never say NEVER as when one does, life shows them different. Mother love, LOL thanks for agreeing with me, however until a WOMAN makes president I dont think I'll be happy either. |
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Date: 10/7/2004 2:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 19613
They don't need to though FB. In fairness there's only 4 million people in Ireland, and guns (specifically shotguns and rifles)are only available for hunting. Our army is tiny and is only involved in UN peacekeeping missions so we'll obviously never have to worry about a draft. |
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Date: 10/7/2004 4:01:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 16671
I think we do, and I think it will happen . |
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