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Love (and all that goes with it): how can people make such a mockery of it?

  Author:  15675  Category:(Discussion) Created:(9/3/2004 8:03:00 PM)
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Okay maybe my standards are a bit high but being a child of divorce I take 'love' and all that goes with it (engagment, marriage, etc...) quite seriously. I mean to me love is something that is final; you will love one person and only one and if you *think* you were in love before that it most likely was a strong like yet not love. But I can be a bit less harsh on that for some people but still I think it shouldnt be taken as lightly as some people do. I've seen people 13-40 of both genders and all types of different backrounds and mind frames declare they 'love' someone after only knowing them a few days/weeks and with out honestly even knowing much of that person! Yeah I believe in love at first sight but these people are almost hunting it down you know what I mean? Its not love at first sight; they just meet someone, get a huge infatuation, and just want to be in love so they declare it so. Needless to say I cant think of ANY of these people who actually stayed with that person...I guess mom is still with her bf but eh thats a whole situation unto itself LOL! And of those people I seen a bunch of them run off; meet another person, and do the same thing all over again.

Oh man don't even get me started on engagment and marriage! Heck I'll have to put them seperate because there's insanely disrespectful issues with both. I've seen (online and off) a bunch of teens (I think 15 was the youngest and 19 the oldest) say how their in 'love' and engaged and a lot of them run off to plan the wedding. Not to mention a LOT of them (not all) haven't known the guy that long...Again they were all different types but this time I can only think of women who have done this... Thankfully a lot of them seem to come to their senses and end it but there's one in real life that comes to mind and just everything with her and engagment just shocks and worries me. She's 19, had a few bfs in life, and is engaged to a great guy (unfortanitly for him LOL!) They knew each other like 3 months before they got engaged and they plan to marry next year though she's already got her dress and such picked out...But here's the kicker: I think she said she'd been engaged at least once if not more before and I know he has been too. That brings me to the thing teenaged or not that annoys me: just the lack of dignity put into engagment. I mean sure you can be engaged as much as you like but shouldnt it be something taken seriously? I mean thats like a promise that you want to commit yourself to be with that person for the rest of your life. Yet so many just seem to think its a flashy wedding and then...well a lot of them dont think to far after that! It seems like its just a whim and thing to make them happy without thinking of what it actually means!

And then theres the one that really annoys me: marriage. I swear to god it seems much like engagment no one takes it seriously and never seem to think of what it means! 1 in 2 marriages ends in divorce in this day and age I mean that cries somethings wrong right there. Now okay be selfish declare love and engagment for fun and effect you and that woman/man's life...okay so if that goes bad just you two are hurt but with marriage usually comes a family and then guess what? That means there are children who will be attached to you for the rest of your life and even if you end up hating/divorcing your spouse the matter of children is always there! Heck I could start a whole nother rant about the sorry state of people wanting children seems to be (awww a babys cute but then what?) but I'll save that for another time :p.

Now of course there are exceptions to every rule. I've seen a lot of people online and off who declare love and really truly are in love. I've seen people (lol this one has to be just online I cant think of anyone in real life) get married and seem to really love each other and know how serious a commitment it is and same said for having a family. But good lord the huge amounts online and off I've seen just made me have to post this! So what is your guys opinion on all this? What is love to you? What is the importance of engagement and marriage to you? Okay discuss :)!

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Date: 9/3/2004 8:10:00 PM  From Authorid: 62848    overall, i totally agree!
Date: 9/3/2004 9:11:00 PM  From Authorid: 5886    This is a serious problem indeed. All too often do I see a 16 year old say "I love you" to his girlfriend, just to dump her a few days later calling her all sorts of nasty degrading names, just to announce how much he loves the new girl he's known for 2 weeks. You just know it'll end the same way. I've learned from experience, that it's those with obession/infatuation who must go around on a crusade to convince the world that they love someone, while in real instances of love, they're among the last person to discover his or her own true feelings toward another. Unless it's that first sight thing... that's the exception.  
Date: 9/3/2004 9:44:00 PM  From Authorid: 62787    well, some do this..others dont. i will know true love when i find it...right now itsjust 'oh, shes cute"- Blade of the Samurai  
Date: 9/3/2004 10:33:00 PM  From Authorid: 36704    really not much you can do about it except watch them fall on their face and when they do, be there to rub it in  
Date: 9/4/2004 12:01:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15675    LOL Base so evil . Nah it annoys me but I know I cant meddle in others affairs the only thing that gets me to sayin much is when they tell me I should be that way too. LOL the 2nd day I was dating my now ex (so I'd known him 3 days) my friend (who I'd known bout a week) told me that I was in LOVE with him though Id stated my beliefs on that before. LOL yeah love...if that was love then im afraid . Alrighty I need sleep night everyone   
Date: 9/4/2004 2:54:00 AM  From Authorid: 42945    I have been married for 45yrs and 8months, we met when very, very young, fell in love...some people said it would never last...well guess what??? Love and Marriage mean the world to me...and I feel sorry for people who use both very loosely, but I suppose for them, they think that they have the ideal partner....hugs  
Date: 9/4/2004 6:42:00 AM  From Authorid: 35720    The first time I ever said I loved someone, I was 16 and I had known him for 9 months. Not sure if I really did love him at that time, but I did fall in love with him at some point. I don't agree with you in that you only love one person in a lifetime.. that's a very romantic idea, but it's not true.. you can love other people. Also.. in a perfect world, maybe.. relationships wouldn't fail, people wouldn't divorce, engagements wouldn't be broken.. none of those things have to do with the couple not initially being in love. I was alot like you before I fell in love for the first time. I wanted everything to be perfect. I thought everything was going to be a stupid fairytale. I thought I wouldn't say I love you to anyone before my husband.. blah blah blah.. and then I found the person I thought I was going to marry and it didn't work out.. and what does that leave you with? Bitterness. Go into it openly. Know that you're going to love more than one person. Know that the first person you love most likely ISN'T going to be the person you're going to marry. You know, you do have some wise points in your post but not everything in this world is perfect. YOU WILL LOVE MORE THAN ONE PERSON. It's human nature.. it's the real world.. it isn't a fairytale. Message me anytime. <3  
Date: 9/4/2004 9:18:00 AM  From Authorid: 62838    I agree that people can love more than one person in a lifetime. BUT it's different for each person, what may be the case for one person might not be the case for another. I feel differently to Rika on the point of "You WILL love more than one person, it's human nature." Speaking for myself I've only ever loved one person, he's my husband. I could never love anyone else but him and I know that this will never change. Each person is different. - Kokoro
Date: 9/4/2004 9:50:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15675    Zema thats great ! Rika I completly disagree and I think u took my ideals completly wrong. Yes I hold love, engagment, marriage, and family in VERY high regard but that doesnt mean I think it'll be a fairytale! I *KNOW* that it wont and a lot of it will make me want to tear my hair out LOL! As a fav song of mine says 'sometimes I hate you but I love you too wanna run away then I run to you...' etc. As for engagement well I cant see how that would be super hard but for marriage I DEFINITLY know that is no fairytale. Of the VERY FEW people I have seen stay married and work things out they've had highs and lows like any normal people. Marriage isnt a fairytale and though I haven't expierenced that I can easily say even from optimistic people thats what Ive been told and shown. I disagree that ALL humans WILL love more then one person. I'll give some (IMO) *THINK* their in love more then once and for the sake of avoiding and argument I'll even say they CAN be. But that doesnt mean everyone is! Also how do you support (minus human nature) that everyone can and will fall in love more then once? If someone meets a man, dates him and hes their first bf, they 'fall in love' and get married and such and live 'happily ever after' (LOL u know what I mean dont divorce in short) then how does that not throw that out the window?  
Date: 9/4/2004 3:59:00 PM  From Authorid: 31765    Until you walk a mile in another's shoes, you can never say exactly what is in their heart or mind. Because you believe people love no more than one, doesn't make it so. I could go into somewhat graphic and chilling detail of what happened earlier in my life, at the hands of a man I did indeed love. I know what I felt was love, because I know myself. And yes, I was married to him. It ended with me leaving, in fact hiding. He had some rather gruesome plans for me. The changes he went through, the violence, are what killed the love I felt. But it did once exist. I grew. I moved on. I loved again. And eventually, found the man I'm married to now. And the man I love. So we live. We learn. Nothing ever happens the way we expect it. And that...is what keeps things interesting.  
Date: 9/5/2004 6:08:00 AM  From Authorid: 35720    So you're telling me that if you're with someone for 20 years and then break up.. and then get with someone and after 5 years marry them, just because you're married to the second person you love them but not the first person? Your ideas are flawed.. marriage is not the determining factor of whether you're in love or not. Love is a feeling.. you don't need to have a status to prove that. You CAN love more than one person in a lifetime.. it doesn't matter.. love is not THAT sacred that it's somehow magically kept for one time only.. that doesn't mystically happen somehow, I'm sorry, it just doesn't.  
Date: 9/5/2004 8:02:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 15675    Lady Phoneix Im sorry that happened to you but Im glad you have someone great now . Rika not being someone whos expierence either I cant tell you (and honestly I've seen the scenario I gace but I havent seen yours at least in a working way (not to say it cant).) I guess we'll have to agree to disagree sorry its 10 in the morning i cant even think straight LOL! Off to church   
Date: 9/5/2004 11:18:00 AM  From Authorid: 62838    It's true that you CAN love more than one person in a lifetime, however it's ALSO true that not everybody DOES. This is not flawed thinking, this is reality. There are millions of people who fall in love with a person and that is the only person they have ever loved, and they love ONLY this person until they die. - Kokoro
Date: 9/5/2004 2:37:00 PM  From Authorid: 4144    very well said. and i can tell you, babies are not that cute!  

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