Date: 8/13/2004 9:54:00 PM
From Authorid: 52489
I am a long-standing aficionado of Ancient Rome, and to me there is no doubt that Rome was an oasis of civilization in an otherwise barbaric age. Here are some points you overlooked: before Rome was an empire, it was a republic; representative government at a time when hereditary kings were the norm! Women were free to divorce, and safe reliable contraceptives were available. Slavery was not just common to Rome, it was practiced all over the world at the time; the Romans simply wrote it down as a law, and had written rules governing it, with penalties for those who mistreated them. Many Roman traditions continue to this day: Fast Food Restaurants, "Thumbs Up" (comes from the Roman Legions); a wedding cake; carrying the bride over the threshhold! The Roman Republic and the later Empire left an inspiration for later civilizations which continues to this day. They were indeed a light in a dark time!  |
Date: 8/13/2004 10:28:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 62851
Thanks, I was hoping that someone would fill in any gaps I left. |
Date: 8/14/2004 12:28:00 AM
From Authorid: 46091
Big ups to Alaric of the Visigoths for sacking Rome! I support the oppressed barbarians. The U.S. is definitely reaching a peak of it's cultural influence as an empire... the downfalls of power and influence is a very important subject to take into account ie WWI-WWII era Germany. The advances will always be there with human innovation. I very much enjoy the mythos and history of ancient Egypt... even support the notion of the pyramid builders being motivated by faith and worship of their gods, not slavery... but the eventual evils of an empire are quite clear. Fast food and slavery laws vs. the "civil" human cleansing (fascism) of the earth really isn't a debate in my mind.  |
Date: 8/14/2004 2:27:00 AM ( Admin-MA )
I LOVED this post! I've always been interested in Roman culture, especially the Roman gods(not to mention Greek and Egyptian Mythology and facts) I REALLY hope you'll be making more posts like this, I loved it |
Date: 8/14/2004 12:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 52489
Several years ago I took part in a seminar on why Rome fell, and there was a historian who showed us four main reasons which most people overlook. They were: 1) The Romans used lead pipes for water, which caused lead poisoning among the people, and may have been one of the causes of the the madness of many of the later emperors! 2) The Romans never learned how to make barrels. This meant they had to use amphoras and clay pots to store and transport grain and other trade goods. You can stack barrels, but you can't ceramic pots because they break. This limited how much ships and wagons could carry, which limited their trade and food storage capabilities! 3) The Romans never developed steam power, which limited their transportation, but more importantly, it meant they never had a power source to drain their mines; mines flood out, and all their pumps had to be driven by humans or animals, which weren't strong enough to drain the mines. 4) The Roman numerals were not practical enough to allow for complex computations, so there was a limit on their mathematics; and mathematics controls the world. Regardless of these shortfalls, however, the Romans accomplished much, and for five centuries the Mediterranean was a Roman lake! Considering their difficulties, this is a remarkable accomplishment!  |
Date: 8/17/2004 5:18:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 62851
Barrels, thats a good one. Another I had always wondered about was -- Would the internal corruption that made the Roman Empire vulnerable to outside attacks have been as damaging with the speed of information flow as we have today? Possibly, but it seems that the issues in the present are almost debated out by the time they are implimented -- or are never implimented because of the continuous debate an issue may bring about. |
Date: 8/24/2004 12:59:00 AM
From Authorid: 62793
Important slightly random side note...Rome fell for many reasons...but like they say about Rome not being built in a day, it didn't fall in a day. The highest contributing factor as to why Rome fell was that they extended themselves too far. In an age of limited travel (it could take months to reach some of the farthest outposts) it was nearly impossible to regulate or defend it's outer borders. P.S. I love studying ancient Greece, Rome, and Egypt...I was a political science major in college. |
Date: 12/10/2004 5:19:00 PM
From Authorid: 20235
great post  |
Date: 12/22/2004 9:03:00 PM
From Authorid: 47865
One of the greatest of the Roman strengths was their complete refusal to concede defeat; when Hannibal marched through Italy and defeated every army Rome could throw at him, killing, by some estimates, about 100,000 Roman soldiers in a little over a year, he sent emissarys to the gates of Rome to see if they wanted to talk peace. The gist of the Roman reply was, 'yes, we'll talk peace. But only when your army has left Italy and you've released all our prisoners' They also told the emissarys that they had two days to leave Roman territory otherwise they would be considered enemy soldiers. No wonder they won in the end.  |