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Date: 8/9/2004 5:31:00 AM
From Authorid: 33925
You have every right to be upset Lizard..Its one thing for him to say something initially but you repeatedly asked him to stop and this all went on in your own home as well. Very disrespectful IMO.  |
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Date: 8/9/2004 5:34:00 AM
From Authorid: 60992
I agree with ladyluck! THat was very disrespectful. Sorry you had to go through that with so many people. *Canuck Hugs* -des  |
Date: 8/9/2004 5:46:00 AM
From Authorid: 27583
you are within your rights to tell them if you want to hear preaching you will go where they are preaching. i am catholic and i believe that if i want to hear preaching i will go where they preach. you dont go to hell or heaven by studying the books on religion you are judged by your actions not words. to each there own and let others live and believe as they have the right to do . i thought that was the reason i went and fought for my country and fought for freedom of speach and religion. if they don't respect your right to believe as you wish im afraid that the welcome mat at my door would be removed. wooden nickel  |
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Date: 8/9/2004 5:48:00 AM
From Authorid: 27583
im sorry , i double clicked , you can delete one if you wish. wooden nickel |
Date: 8/9/2004 5:48:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 62753
thanks guys for the responces, I just needed to vent.... Lizard-1  |
| Date: 8/9/2004 6:18:00 AM From Authorid: 62509 I believe that you have every right to believe what you want to believe. Two things that should almost be brought up is religion and polotics as it's everyone has different views and most will get offended. You have a right to not want to talk about it. ~ aronnov |
Date: 8/9/2004 6:51:00 AM
From Authorid: 3835
OMG.. I would have asked him to leave right that instant, to get OUT of my house. I am Pagan, I follow the Old Ways, and that is more of a feeling, not some Geesus from a book. God does not need to write things down and remember them for a gazillion years. I feel man wrote the bible for man to follow man. Satan was created by man, so man could control man, and when he could not control man through the use of satan, man felt it gave him the right to kill or punish man, in the name of God??... I have to say that your belief and my belief may run kind of parallel, it is a feeling, an emotion inside that is witnessed or felt...... and is TOTALLY an individual perception.  |
Date: 8/9/2004 7:03:00 AM
From Authorid: 15228
I'm surprised you even have to ask whether you should feel ran over or not. Of course the guy was very rude, I wouldn't bother having him back to my house.  |
Date: 8/9/2004 7:11:00 AM
From Authorid: 39360
OH you totally have the grounds to be bothered by this, especially in your own home? How would he feel if you went around to his home and then proceeded to tell him that everything he believed was wrong, that he was a fool etc. If it had been me he wouldn't have gotten the chance becuase he'd have been out on his ear if he didn't stop after I'd asked him nicely.  |
Date: 8/9/2004 7:17:00 AM
From Authorid: 30747
That guy was rude. People will do all kinds of things in the name of Christianity but personally I think the best way to bring the word of God to anyone is by example of devotion and tolerance. This was a very poor example. I'm sorry he did that to you.  |
Date: 8/9/2004 7:56:00 AM
From Authorid: 62801
The bible commands all believers to preach the gospel to every creature. (Mark 16:15-16) It's like this, lets say your a drug addict. Your addiction is sending you to an early grave. All your drug addict friends come over and party it up with you all the time. Well, one day you invite someone over and they say, "hey look, I love you but these drugs are killing you, you need to get some help." You may not want to hear it, but which one is really your true friend? The one's that were helping you kill yourself, or the one that told you the truth? Just because you don't want to hear it doesn't mean he was wrong for sharing. However, I admit Christians can be overzealous and cross the line. There is a way to share the gospel in love. I'm sorry if you were hurt. *LoveisAll*  |
Date: 8/9/2004 8:03:00 AM
From Authorid: 24924
What state do you live in? Sounds like some of my relatives. Lizard, those "friends" are not friends. Turn it around....and imagine what THEY would do if it was you that was trying to change/convert them? Not only would they be very upset, but they would have bolted out the door never to return. Bet on it. It has always been my experience that people like that never, ever, see themselves as being hypocritical, rude and wrong. You were being held hostage in your own home at that! Ya darn tootin' you have every right to be irritated.  |
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Date: 8/9/2004 8:35:00 AM
From Authorid: 62682
You have right to be upset. Though I am a christian, I know what it is like to have others push their faith on you. Your friend was doing what he felt as a christian he had to do I believe. But there is a time and a place, and obviously that time was not correct and he went about it the wrong way. I enjoy sharing the word of God to others....but I do that through my actions rather than trying to preach which is something people tend to push away. You have right to be upset and I am sorry your friend didnt take the hint. ~~~Humming Bird  |
| Date: 8/9/2004 8:43:00 AM From Authorid: 62838 You do have grounds to feel bothered by this... what he did was wrong. It is SO WRONG for someone to point the finger at another person and tell them they are going to go to hell when they die. If there is a hell or heaven, this man will certainly not be the one deciding who goes where! His opinion means nothing. It is so wrong to try to bulldoze a person into believing what you want them to believe, and threatening them with hellfire if they choose a different path. You did the right thing by just remaining quiet and letting him rave. No matter what you say, people like this will usually keep going anyway. They are selfish, because they are thinking more about themselves and their own "mission" rather than others. - Kokoro |
Date: 8/9/2004 9:23:00 AM
From Authorid: 3648
Well first off he was a guest in your home and should have respected you enough to know when to back down and stop. I think if I felt I was being belittled in my own home by a guest over my choice of religion I might have to ask them to kindly leave. No one and I mean no has a right to point a finger in your face and tell you you are wrong no matter what your beliefs are...You walk you own path in this world and for the life of me I don't get why others feel it's their duty to tell us what is right and wrong. I believe in God but I don't stand on a soapbox and preach to those who don't wanna hear it...So in my humble opinion you actually had the right to ask your guest to leave your home..  |
Date: 8/9/2004 10:14:00 AM
From Authorid: 23796
I am so Sorry you went through this and that it made you feel so uncomfortable. You expressed your knowledge about his beliefs, thus it should have been dropped. IMO, christianity is best learned through example, although many christians just don't get this. It also says to honor thy neighbor as well as to love ones enemies because anyone can love a friend. I was christian raised, Pagan/eclectic spiritualist by choice. What many christians do not get is that by forcing ones will above someone's elses, it becomes and evil...thus Violating the very laws they preach, making them hypocrites. That is what drives people away from christianity. Who want's to experience a Spiritual violation?  |
Date: 8/9/2004 10:28:00 AM
From Authorid: 4144
you are on a path straight to hell and you better listen to him! ok, i'm kidding. sometimes i have to amuse myself! anyway, i know just how you feel. i hate it when people do that and christians and jehova witness (sp?) seem to be the worse. i hate it when they come to my door uninvited and try to tell me what to believe and how to live. of course, i can usually make them mad enough to leave before they get too pushy. it's like this, i believe in God. i don't believe in preachers and i don't go to church. i believe in heaven and hell. i am not going to believe any different if i am sitting in a church pew or on my own couch. that's my business and if i'm wrong i will leave it to the Lord to deal with me later. much later i hope! i do have to ask you one question and it's a serious one........you said you had friends over.....that means your home right? why didn't you tell him to leave? i would have i think. i mean the way i see it is it's my house, i'm paying for it, i make the rules and if the rules are not talking religion they should respect that.  |
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Date: 8/9/2004 11:04:00 AM
From Authorid: 24924
I wouldn't ask them to leave. I wouldn't return rudeness in kind; nor would I make the OTHER guests feel uncomfortable by displaying the same, as it certainly would. I'd change the subject repeatedly , and try to steer away from the topic of religion. THEN, when the offenders did leave, I'd wish them well and never invite them back again. If they pushed and kept insisting and asking why calls weren't returned, or what not, then maybe at that time I would remind them "Well, John, do you remember the last time you were in my home...?" |
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Date: 8/9/2004 11:15:00 AM
From Authorid: 24924
Lizard, if ALL else fails, may I suggest you print this out and give a copy to those "friends"? http://www.aba1.net/1413434819.html |
Date: 8/9/2004 11:28:00 AM
From Authorid: 62752
well i believe in GOD 100% and i never ever ever ever read anywhere, that it was a sin to preech to someone, i know that i have mentioned the subject sometimes and if someone says they dont believe i stop, because it isnt my buisness i believe what i believe and dont care what ppl think, its there life.. and u had every right to say stop, i wouldnt listen to someone tell me there was no god, so why is it different for u? it isnt, i wouldnt invite them back lol KK  |
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Date: 8/9/2004 11:29:00 AM
From Authorid: 62752
opps, not preech to someone* he took that from preaching the word of god |
Date: 8/9/2004 11:38:00 AM
From Authorid: 58308
That was very disrespectful to you and I would have told him to leave if he couldn't put a lid on it. I hope you are having a better day today. *smiles*  |
Date: 8/9/2004 11:41:00 AM
From Authorid: 12876
this man is proof that religion, and politics should not become part of conversation with friends, A simple I believe in GOD was sufficient, and should have been dropped beyond that  |
Date: 8/9/2004 2:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 47218
you have to pretty clueless to not realize that "I don't want to talk about it" means that you are, at best, beyond the point of convining a person and, at worst, on the point of further antagonizing them towards your viewpoint.  |
Date: 8/9/2004 11:53:00 PM
From Authorid: 26452
Wow, you are so much more patient then anyone in my family. normally, when someone will not stop, they get a piece of my mind and a kick out the door. My mother and I deal with this constanty, being nice just doesn't work for people like that. They normally get a few choice words, and a get the heck out lol. I would NOT be so nice next time, it doesn't work, they're being rude, and disrespectful.  |
Date: 8/10/2004 8:52:00 AM
From Authorid: 62675
I am a religious person. You have every right to be annoyed!! As in ANY conversation, if someone asks for the subject to be changed it should be. He is just ignorant!  |
Date: 8/10/2004 11:34:00 PM
From Authorid: 37900
Lizard, it sounds like your friends were at your home. If so, they were rude to continue preaching to you when you told them you weren't interested. I am a Christian, and understand a little of why they did what they did, but it was not what they were "supposed to do." Christians are commanded to love others, not continue talking when the message is not being received. I think you should limit your contact with these people until they apologize and understand your position. If they cannot be your friends though your beliefs are different, get better friends.  |
| Date: 8/11/2004 8:23:00 AM From Authorid: 62843 YES YOU DO. JUST AKS YOUR FRIEND TO AVOID THESE TOPICS WHEN THEY ARE ARROUND YOU. A REAL GOOD FRIEND WILL RESPECT THAT. DIFFERENT THINGS ARE GOOD FOR DIFFERENT PEOPLE. |
Date: 8/13/2004 6:50:00 PM
From Authorid: 50434
I would have been upset too seeing how you respectfully told him it wasnt up for discussion because you do not believe what he preaches. Wether or not hes suppose to preach and teach what he beleives as a friend or guest in your home he should have listened to your request.  |
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