Date: 8/4/2004 6:52:00 PM
From Authorid: 27046
I was just reading this article on my home page about her release. I think given the facts of this particular case, Vili is 21 years old now and should be able to make his own decision on whether or not he wants to be around her. It's not your typical "rape" or molestation incident so that makes a huge difference. What went on between them was consensual so there isn't all that emotional damage that unwanted physical force would bring on. Let's not forget they have two children with each other. She made a bad choice, she payed the price for it, he's of legal age, they have kids, let them be a family, it's obvious that is what they both want.  |
Date: 8/4/2004 6:56:00 PM
From Authorid: 50434
I dont see why not, he is an adult now and can make his own choice. I really didnt follow the case my but he was underage so there for she was accused of molesting him, which I do not all agree with what she did. It was sick and took advantage of them when they were kids. By the fact is, hes an adult and can make his own choice.  |
Date: 8/4/2004 7:01:00 PM
From Authorid: 21435
Hello, Dizzy Me  Azairyia's thoughts are pretty much my own. If they can live together now, then why not let them?  |
Date: 8/4/2004 7:03:00 PM
From Authorid: 48941
You know this is a good post, I have mixed emotions on this being a survivor of molestation..I feel that no she shouldn't but honestly what can we do now that he is of age and still wants to be with her.. By the way does anyone know what happened to the children or if they will be returned to her?  |
Date: 8/4/2004 7:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 13119
what is to say that she isn't going to find another 12 yr old that she wants to have sex with? I don't think the ban should be lifted, she was let out on parole after the first child and she violated the order and ended up having to finish out her sentence because she raped him again. I know that everyone says it was consensual but would you still think that if the roles were reversed and it was a 12 yr old girl having babies by a 30 something male teacher. The woman is a child molester and doesn't deserve to ruin his life or the lives of her children.  |
Date: 8/4/2004 7:05:00 PM
From Authorid: 25390
I don't see why not. If that's really what they want, he is now of legal age and has that right. It was consensual sex in the first place, so even though she is a "child molestor," Fualaau was not molested.  |
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Date: 8/4/2004 7:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 13119
his mom is raising the children and I think that she should continue to raise them obviously letourneau has no compunction about breaking the law and seeing to her own gratification. |
Date: 8/4/2004 7:20:00 PM
From Authorid: 62753
You know ,, I have mixed feelings on the subject! If he loves her, and he is an adult now, than he has the choice to make --- not her... If they love each other, than yeah let them be! She obviously loves him, they have two children together! She did her time, and now she is free, let her be with him! The only reason I would say no - is if he was a minor, but he isn't. Lizard-1  |
Date: 8/4/2004 7:22:00 PM
From Authorid: 55386
I think he's an adult now, and if he wants to be with her, then let him....Though it's kinda sick that she ...well...With a Gr. 6 student and all....Man...he was like....11..12? O.O.....  |
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Date: 8/4/2004 7:23:00 PM
From Authorid: 27046
Magoo, she isn't what one can deem a pedophile. She doesn't fit the profile of one who is going to be a continual molestation threat to society. She made a bad choice as many adults do, by starting a relationship with a minor. She was punished by the law as she should have been and served her time. |
Date: 8/4/2004 7:24:00 PM
From Authorid: 45630
I figure that by age 21 he should be able to have his say. If he wants it then it should be granted.  |
Date: 8/4/2004 7:27:00 PM
From Authorid: 53909
I remember hearing about this. I think that since he's now 21, he can do whatever he wants. He's old enough to decide.  |
Date: 8/4/2004 7:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 57232
Call me corny, but they seem to be in love with each other. When I was 13 years old I was VERY mature for my age and it was wanted by both parties and without force. If it was with force then I would say no way, but odd yes, but they are probably really in love.  |
Date: 8/4/2004 8:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 3263
I say that it was quite wrong in the past, but he is now of legal, consenting age, so more power to him.  |
Date: 8/4/2004 8:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 62833
Since he is an adult now it should be his decision, it would be consentual and legally how could they keep them apart?  |
Date: 8/4/2004 9:01:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
Some people are saying she has warped his mind by doing what she did to him at a young age, and that he can't make that kind of decision. Meaning his deciding to be with her could be some sort of screwy decision based on the so called abuse. (Even though he consented)  |
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Date: 8/4/2004 9:03:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
There was a woman on Oprah today that was a teacher who had a relationship with a 17 year old student. She got fired for it. It's been over three years now and they are still together and have a child. I know that's a bit of a random comment, but I thought I'd mention it. |
Date: 8/4/2004 9:23:00 PM
From Authorid: 7574
Hmm...He's had awhile to ponder it over I guess, and if he wants to be with her, why not? Kinda creepy, but hey, that's never stopped anybody...  |
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Date: 8/4/2004 9:26:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
Personally I agree with most of you. He is an adult, they have two children together, so they should be allowed to at least TRY to make something of their relationship. |
Date: 8/4/2004 9:36:00 PM
From Authorid: 42792
at this point, they are both adults and it isn't anyone's business what they do with each other.  |
Date: 8/4/2004 10:10:00 PM
From Authorid: 37900
I don't think she should be allowed to be with him. The woman has demonstrated she cannot make sound decisions about relationships. Remember that she was already married and had children when she was impregnated by a 13-year-old. IMO, she is incapable of being either a good mother or a good partner. Both of them should move on with their lives.  |
Date: 8/5/2004 12:05:00 AM
From Authorid: 11348
Well... he is 21 and he was the one victimized. If it were her petitioning to let them be with him, than I would say no, but since it is him who wants to, and he is legally an adult, he should be allowed to be with her if he so chooses. That whole situation though, just disgusts me. At least they are both adults now.  |
Date: 8/5/2004 5:19:00 AM
From Authorid: 19460
Well I can say that it was a very very very bad choice she made... sick to say the least, but he is an adult now and nothing anyone can do about it. And they do have kids together, as twisted as that is, but they are adults. Alot of men dont see sexual abuse from a woman as sexual abuse. My husband was abused by his cousin who was about 10 years older than him and he just sees it as an experience becuase he is a boy and she was a girl. I dont understand it. To me that is nuts.  |
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Date: 8/5/2004 5:41:00 AM
From Authorid: 27046
The only decision that the woman made that was wrong was her choice to involve herself with a minor. Other than that her life speaks pretty typically. She was young, married with 4 kids and miserable. Out of that she had an affair. The ONLY difference between her and another woman that isn't happy that would have an affair on her husband is that she made the wrong choice with a minor. |
Date: 8/5/2004 6:10:00 AM
From Authorid: 62675
Well they are both legal age now. I think she should have been in there longer. She had her chance to leave him alone after the first time and went back and got knocked up again. At least 15 20 years. Whos to say she won't find another 14 year old?  |
Date: 8/5/2004 7:16:00 AM
From Authorid: 16671
Yep, I'm with AZ on this one. This kind of sort of happened with my nephew. My nephews head was hurt by a baby sitter when he was ten months old, it was really mushy, but it ended up with him being slower than his actual age. So when he was 19 he acted more like he was 16 and that is the age of the girl he was dating. Matter of fact she was more mature then he was and they did have sex, and her parent knew it, but then somehow the cops were called and he went to jail. Still there right now and had to register as a sex offender. She still goes to visit him and now he is 22. What really gets me is that he is on ssi for his mental state and none of that was even taken into consideration.  |
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Date: 8/5/2004 7:37:00 AM
From Authorid: 13119
first born how can you compare your nephew's tragedy with a 35 yr old woman having sex with a 11 yr old boy. They are definitely not the same and Azairyia how can you say that she won't reoffend? How do you know that she won't be a risk to other 11 yr old boys. How can a child of that age give her the emotional and intellectual stimulation that a normal adult requires? He is 21 yrs old now and he is probably pretty happy that he is able to see the woman who initiated hiim into the whole sex world but even if he doesn't realise it she is sick. His mom should petition the courts to allow her to keep custody of his children, if he wants to go back with the molester then fine but don't put his children in that situation. And to compare this to a normal woman having a normal affair because she is unhappy is ludicrous, how many women do you know that would rape a 11-12 yr old. What about when it is consensual between a man and a child of 11-12, is that any different? |
Date: 8/5/2004 9:00:00 AM
From Authorid: 4144
i don't think it was rape. if it was he wouldn't have been caught having sex with her after she was realesed the other time. he is 21 years old now so i think it should be up to him and him only what he decides to do.  |
Date: 8/5/2004 10:37:00 AM
From Authorid: 47218
the guy is legally an adult now. He should be allowed to decide for himself whether he wants to see her again or no.  |
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Date: 8/5/2004 6:21:00 PM
From Authorid: 62838
I do think he should be allowed to have contact with her now. He's an adult and after all he does have children with this lady. It should be his choice to make. |
Date: 8/5/2004 7:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 22080
he's 21, who cares, he knew what he was doing in the first place.  |
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Date: 8/5/2004 9:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 16671
Perhaps I should have made myself more clear magoo, most of my comment had to deal with the fact that a lot of sex offenders that are on lists should not be on lists. But I guess that is a post in itself. And if you read AZ's comment then what part of " having an affair with a minor and that being a WRONG choice," didnt you understand? So please dont put words in my mouth trying to say that i condone a woman having sex with a 11 or 12 year old boy. However the boy is now 21 if he wishes to be with her that is his choice. As far as the children go, I dont have the whole back ground on how they are being rasied so I cant make a call on that one. Until we live in someone elses shoes 24/7 I dont think we can make calls on most things in life. |
Date: 8/5/2004 9:35:00 PM
From Authorid: 12341
I have "no thoughts" that bring any understanding. He is certainly "old enough" now to choose, being 21. However the fact that he is "hoping to acquire a GED" is telling. He still hasn't completed even a high school education and has two daughters already. Let them have each other, but I'm curious WHO is really supporting those children and how many more will follow? She's twisted as far as I'm concerned, I can't understand anything they have in common, unless she taught him EXACTLY what she WANTED him to know, and even that is absurd, given the age difference. Magoo's right, an adult woman has control over a teenage boy more so than a male has over a teen female. Society has a huge impact on the role of sexuality and the roles we play. A thirteen year old girl would certainly be a victim considering the age difference and so should the thirteen year old male. Considering that he hasn't even completed a high school education or a GED yet, even though he is a father two times over, I would say that the two of them worrying so much about being together is "book and movie of the week material". They really don't need jobs or education nearly as much as they need counseling.  |
Date: 8/6/2004 12:28:00 PM
From Authorid: 14018
Well, I think that he can make a choice to see her or not, she may be sick, but he wants to see her, he is petitoning. She didn't go out and rape a differnt kid, she had sex with the same one. She wants him and he wants her, let them have each other. As far as their kids are concerned let them have their family, it is not faire for the kids to be punished for the mothers mistake.  |
Date: 8/6/2004 12:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 25828
yes, they're both 'of age' now, have two kids together, if he still wants to be with her after all this time, and he does..then it is love. though they should have waited until he was 18, the age difference is of no issue. 'when' they chose to act on those feelings is not so good - but -she's served her time...he still wants her. let them be together - and truthfully, since he is 21, they WILL be together, i'm sure, whether the judge lets them or not. where there is a will, there is a way...  |
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Date: 8/6/2004 1:23:00 PM
From Authorid: 13119
I apologize first born it sounded like you were comparing your nephew with this lady and it is totally different. I understood AZ comment but when she says the only thing wrong is him being a minor, well, right there it makes it a totally different case from your normal every day cheating wife. If they want to be together have at her but leave the children alone and innocent. Brenda I like your thoughts and ideas. |
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Date: 8/8/2004 9:21:00 AM
From Authorid: 16671
Magoo, thats ok. I tend to ramble from time to time and while I KNOW what is in my head I need to remember that people dont know whats in my head and I need to explain my self a little better. Sorry for being harsh in my comment to you. |
Date: 8/8/2004 9:35:00 AM
From Authorid: 55967
Wow. I didn't read any comments yet, and here is mine. Well, legally speaking, yes, the teacher should be allowed to see him since he is an adult now and, as an adult, made the decision to wave the court order. However, I hope he doesn't have a lot of plans for their future, because, as I see it, her motives were sick and lust-filled at the time of the crimes, and a true loving relationship really cannot be built on that.  |
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Date: 8/9/2004 8:37:00 AM
From Authorid: 27046
Magoo, I can say that because the woman isn't a pedophile. If she were a pedophile, then I would certaintly think that it wouldn't be long before she found herself another youngster. He also wasn't 11, he was 13. This 13 year old was raped by law, not in the sense of what we think when we hear the word rape. The entire relationship was completely consensual. Did it make the whole thing right? Of course not, but that's why she spent 7 years in jail for it. NOW 7 years later, this boy is now a 21 year old man, still in love with and wanting to carry out this relationship and so does she. There shouldn't be any reason at all why they can't do it now. The ONLY thing that was wrong with the relationship is the fact that he was a minor when it began. |
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Date: 8/9/2004 1:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 62829
Well, since he's 21 he's legally an adult so it's really up to him. I think what she did was disgusting and that she messed that poor boy's head up real well....I mean he has no job, no high school diploma, and isn't even taking care of his kid! But to get back on the subject, there's nothing really anyone can do about them being together now.... |
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Date: 8/9/2004 1:58:00 PM
From Authorid: 13119
how do you know that she won't get sick of being married to him and find herself another young, impressionable boy to have sex with. Because it was consensual on both sides doesn't make it right. How many young men do you know that would turn down sex with a hot teacher. She used her influence and authority to prey on a child. You can theorize all you like that she isn't a "normal" pedophile but the truth is, she is. She is a new type of pedophile that is becoming more and more common. Women are preying on children more, just look at the three other cases of female teachers having "consensual" sex with their students. I am pretty sure that a lot of the girls who have sex with male teachers are "consensual" as well but it is treated much more seriously. She can be with him all she likes because he is an adult but he is a messed up kid inside still and neither of them should have custody of the little girls. Leave them with the grandma. |
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Date: 8/9/2004 4:11:00 PM
From Authorid: 27046
Magoo, all you keep talking about is sex, as if that is the ONLY thing that went on between these two people. Furthermore it's ALL past tense. What do we do with people that prey on children? We lock em up......what did we do with this woman?.....we locked her up. She's out now, she's free, he's an adult now. |
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Date: 8/10/2004 11:11:00 AM
From Authorid: 13119
actually I also said that she has used her power to prey on him emotionally. I agree that people are locked up and its a good thing she was but you said that she is not the normal pedophile and she is. They are older and they can be together but she should not have custody of minor children. |
Date: 8/15/2004 4:52:00 PM
From Authorid: 51070
It's his choice.  |
Date: 2/5/2005 2:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 12709
Well, since he's 21, and legally an adult, he should be allowed... although it disgusts me that he would WANT to..  |
