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Date: 7/16/2004 9:54:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
Good to meet you but I must warn you....YOU'VE picked an extra HOT topic around here! I will say my opinion but debating it is another story. I personally will be voting for Bush. Much of what's been said about him and his intentions is untrue or plain conspiracy theories. Is he perfect? Heck no...but show a president that has been. He's also delt with a lot more in one term than the others saw in two. As for Kerry...he scares me. He has 0 personality and that explains why he's chose Edwards as his friendly front. Edwards is for the death penalty, Kerry is against it. They both voted against the laci and conner law even though it EXCLUDES abortion specifically. They both voted against additional body armour and Hum v's for our troops. I could go on but I'll be here forever. Good post.  |
Date: 7/16/2004 9:56:00 PM
From Authorid: 62787
why does Bush need to attack kerry on tv? sure kerry did a couple, but Bush did many! he is scared, he knows...kerry will be president!- Blade of the Samurai  |
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Date: 7/16/2004 10:00:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
Ummm...I hate to break it to you but Kerry started with the attack ads first. I've only seen one from Bush recently and it spoke the truth...that Kerry cares nothing about pregnant women and children that are victims of violent federal crimes, since he voted that law down. |
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Date: 7/16/2004 10:06:00 PM
From Authorid: 62787
well, let the debate BEGIN!!- Blade of the Samurai |
Date: 7/16/2004 10:07:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 62809
Well Kerry care more about his hair than anything Thats one of the campaigning tools him and Edwards are using... They think their modles |
Date: 7/16/2004 10:09:00 PM
From Authorid: 46091
I think that is the problem... this contrast of right and left... conservative/liberal... it's a rift that divides America in neat little groups which have no base in reality. The media, either slanted liberal or conservative, uses "word points" time and time again to slant the viewer in one direction with no facts what so ever. Liberal=no morals;Conservative=greed. How many people can discuss each canditate's platform in depth? I'm just tired of people taking sides... the difference between Republican and Democrat, is the difference between Chevy and Ford... because your daddy drove one. It seems that way to me. I guess in that lame analogy Nader would be Dodge. His charisma needs a Hemi though.  |
| Date: 7/16/2004 10:15:00 PM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 62809 Well...I think It's very important to have two diffrent side debating over what they believe in. You cant have one party taking all the shots..But each party had its own moral beliefs and Its pretty much black and white..It can also get very confusing...I think I listen to, too much rush in the afternoon |
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Date: 7/16/2004 10:20:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
I don't view myself as a republican or democrat and I don't make my votes based upon that criteria. I just vote for who I believe is the best candidate at that time. |
| Date: 7/16/2004 10:27:00 PM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 62809 You Choose I Respect that.Thats the best way to do it...I wouldn't vote for a rebublican if i didn't believe in that person. †Blood§cript™, |
Date: 7/16/2004 10:30:00 PM
From Authorid: 7574
I'm not even old enough to vote yet, but of course I have opinions. I think they're both morons. Sure, they both have good qualities and they both have bad qualities. The thing I question though, is why Kerry is for abortion. I think he only is (well at least to such an extent) because Bush is so against it. Holy boogers, lest the two candidates agree on something.....I'm Amers Duck, and I support this message.  |
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Date: 7/16/2004 10:31:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 62809
If kerry was a rebublican I would stop being interested in politics for the rest of his presidency. †Blood§cript™, |
Date: 7/16/2004 10:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 37843
I'm hoping for a third party to win, but since its never happened before I doubt it will this year....  |
| Date: 7/16/2004 10:37:00 PM ( From Author ) From Authorid: 62809 I dont think that will happen, but weird things do happen.. |
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Date: 7/16/2004 10:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 46091
Listening to one person's opinion to formulate your own opinion... might as well commit a Michael Moore movie to memory for a "liberal" opinion. |
Date: 7/16/2004 10:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 53961
Conservative - hands down...  |
Date: 7/16/2004 10:52:00 PM
From Authorid: 53157
I'm not old enough to vote but if i was and had to pick between them it would be kerry. I dont like bush, hes wrecked so many jobs by sending them over to other countries so it would be cheaper. Hes the president of the united states so shouldnt he worry about the united states people and there well being. I do hope though that a 3rd person comes in and is better than the both and will do the job great. thats my opinion on it.  |
Date: 7/16/2004 10:54:00 PM
From Authorid: 17081
I dont like the way Kerry talks down on people. I'm voting for Bush. Kerry has done nothing good.  |
Date: 7/17/2004 3:00:00 AM
From Authorid: 19869
i know nothing, i am english! sounds like this kerry guy is rubbish, no one likes him and he's done nothing good! is that right? but then again bush hasnt done much good and has done a lot of bad. thats why most of the world hate him, so why would you choose him either? bad or worse, take ur pick (how it seems to me)  |
Date: 7/17/2004 4:51:00 AM
From Authorid: 47296
I have had almost 4 years now to see what Bush can do, and as a registered Republican, it bothers me. Voting for Bush will guarantee us of quite a few things. We can be assured that our rights will further be eroded, and face the possibility of even more discriminatory laws being put in place. We can rest assured that small businesses will continue to suffer, while big business (on the scale of Haliburton, Blount, Daniels) will continue to prosper, further effecting the consumer in America. We can rest assured that even more good American troops will die trying to fight the war on terror, a shadow war, that can never be won, but only breed more hate and resentment against us as Americans. We can be assured that an even greater wedge will be driven between the people of this country, since Bush has shown that there are certain people in this country that he does not care for by his efforts to pass only laws that are socio-conservative in nature. As for Kerry, some say he is an unknown as far as being presidential material. Some say he flip flops too easily. Actually, I see him listening to the voice of the people, and instead of just listening to a select group. I believe he will actually take measures that will help small businesses rebound. It may not be anything direct, but things that will help the economy, which always works to help small businesses. People bring up the death penalty, yet Bush signed more execution orders as governor in Texas than any other president we have had, and some of those were extremely controversial in nature. Personally, I am for the death penalty, although I do believe death penalty laws and the way trials are handled needs to be changed. On the topic of abortion, I am not toally against it, as there are times and places where abortion is the only viable option. I will say that although I am a registered Republican, for the first time in my life I will be voting Democrat in November.  |
Date: 7/17/2004 7:00:00 AM
From Authorid: 2030
If you're not a liberal at 18 you have no heart. If you're not a conservative at 30 you have no brain.  |
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Date: 7/17/2004 10:33:00 AM
From Authorid: 19613
Dicitonary.com's definition of "liberal": Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded. Of, relating to, or characteristic of liberalism. Liberal Of, designating, or characteristic of a political party founded on or associated with principles of social and political liberalism, especially in Great Britain, Canada, and the United States. Sounds good to me  |
Date: 7/17/2004 4:55:00 PM
From Authorid: 55967
Two Spirit, I've seen before where you state that you've seen small business erode under Bush (your antique business as one, I think---correct me if I'm wrong). I am just curious though; what are the actions or inactions of the Bush administration that caused this downward turn in small business? Is it because of a detected focus on ONLY big business, thus pushing the small out of the way, or is there more that you see? I am starting my own new small business, and I am just curious as to what else you see about that subject.  |
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Date: 7/17/2004 6:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 47296
Gypsyhawk, two of the biggest effects right now on small business are the war on terror, and the high fuel costs. The war on terror is what I call a shadow war. There are no clearly defined enemies that we can target, and no guarantees that taking out "x" number of terrorists will make us any safer. The war on terror also has a lot of Americans worried that we will be attacked again, possibly because of our actions in other parts of the world. While 9-11 had only a limited effect on the economy as a whole, as soon as the fighting began in Afghanistan, the small business economy began to falter. It took a major drop when the war in Iraq occurred, and has still not recovered. High fuel costs have also hurt small businesses, especially those like MsPriss and mine, that depened on mobility. Where once we were doing sales around the region, we now have to stay closer to home to cut overhead. At the same time, customers who once drove a hundred miles or more to get to a major sale now limit their driving distance. The thing I found funny was how one major defense contractor, and the primary contractor in Iraq, Haliburton, could afford to buy fuel in Kuwait for $2.00/gallon, then truck it to Baghdad and sale it for 90 cent/gallon. Create a false rise in fuel prices here in the states so that the major oil companies can make up for the are losing elsewhere. |
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Date: 7/17/2004 10:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 62787
i too hate the high gas prices..when i get my first car, how will i get anywhere?- Blade of the Samurai |
Date: 7/17/2004 11:36:00 PM
From Authorid: 11240
When I first registered to vote, I registered as a Republican because it was supposedly the party that wanted "less government". And then I watched as that supposition was proven false. The last time I voted, I was registered as an Independent and voted for the Libertarian party candidate. The Libertarian philosophy IS less government. I haven't seen anything on a Libertarian presidential candidate this year (not that I am any political junkie), but history has shown that dominant parties can lose favor, so I still hold out hope that at least one of these parties (Republican/Democrat) will eventually go by the wayside. God Bless.  |
Date: 7/18/2004 8:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 54987
I believe that Kerry is really a republican, like Bush. Bring back Gore unless we can dig up ol' Theodore.  |
Date: 7/18/2004 8:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 12341
Unfortunately, neither one are favorites. But Kerry will most likely not get my endorsement for sure.  |
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Date: 7/18/2004 8:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 55967
Koolade, I think you meant FDR. Theodore was not a democrat. |
Date: 7/19/2004 3:00:00 AM
From Authorid: 53689
I really don't care for either one...but I care less for Bush. I also dislike Nader. But I do really like Edwards. I will vote for Kerry. But I don't believe that politics is a black and white as you put it. I do lean more to the left, but I also lean right on some issues. This is why I'm registered independent.  |
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Date: 7/19/2004 5:36:00 AM
From Authorid: 24924
I've never been one to tow the party line; one side or the other. I look at BOTH sides and try to get as much of an over-all picture regarding a candidate and their stance on the main issues. Jon Stewart of the Daily Show says "It's not that we don't like the republicans or the democrats; it is the fact that we don't like BS, and it seems as though the republicans has the most BS". A very big issue with me is Seperation of Church and State, and Bush fails miserably on that end. With so many different faiths and religions, and millions of Americans are left out if only one is employed by our president. I don't mind him being religious but it should not be part of his job description. Kerry is a religious man, but doesn't feel that he must wear it like some huge banner in such a public way, or USE it to get votes as I feel Bush has and does. When fundamentalist like Bush allow or try to use their personal beliefs to interfere, squelch, and deny, or overturn laws that affect us ALL, then I'm very afraid of what will happen if given 4 more years when re-election wouldn't be an issue for him. When the Bush adminstration is allowing politics to interfere with science, for example, dismissing a goverment biologist (to participate in World Health Organizations) who is at odds with the christian stance on stem cell research, then this is a Nazi attempt to stifle and corrupt science. Well, I don't need to go into all the faith-based everything he has implemented or tried to do; or even go over all the lies he and this administration have used regarding Iraq, but needless to say, based upon ALL of these things, I will NOT be voting for Bush.  |
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Date: 7/19/2004 8:24:00 AM
From Authorid: 19613
*does the proportional representation dance* |
Date: 7/19/2004 9:45:00 AM
From Authorid: 31673
I don't love either candidate. But I don't love Kerry more than I don't love Bush... if that makes sense. Also, I don't really think it would be wise to change the guard in the middle of the battle. So, Bush will get my vote.  |
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Date: 7/21/2004 7:07:00 AM
From Authorid: 19613
isn't it a sad day in a democracy when you have to vote for the person you dislike least? |
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Date: 7/21/2004 7:33:00 AM
From Authorid: 24924
Bush has called himself a "war president" in leading the United States in a battle against terrorism brought about by the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on America. "I'm a war president. I make decisions here in the Oval Office in foreign policy matters with war on my mind," he said in February. *flip-flop* Campaigning in Iowa last week , Bush said: "The enemy declared war on us," Bush told a re-election rally in Cedar Rapids. "Nobody wants to be the war president. I want to be the peace president... The next four years will be peaceful years." Bush used the words "peace" or "peaceful" a total of 20 times. |
Date: 7/22/2004 9:53:00 AM
From Authorid: 28989
I'm a liberal, plain and simple. I did an online "test" of where I stand on the scale of liberal/conservative and authoritarian/libertarian, and I ended up square in the liberal/libertarian quadrant. Central to my beliefs is that getting to the root of problems is better than bandaging them. In other words, more money and resources for education and job training and psychological/social services, less emphasis on harsher punishments and bigger prisons. Focus more on happier employees here in this country than on extremely wealthy CEO's who move their businesses overseas for cheaper labor. Focus more on helping other countries deal with their problems (disease, starvation, pollution, poverty) and less on our exploitation of their resources and the protection of our corporations who are doing the exploitation. I know that this sounds simplistic and unrealistic to other people, but hey--it's the way my mind works!  |
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Date: 7/22/2004 6:58:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 62809
Wow there seems to be alot of insight...I just updated this artical with some more of my thoughts on the subject. †Blood§cript™ |
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