Date: 7/14/2004 8:50:00 PM
From Authorid: 62779
kick em in the be-hind... I'd sue the jerks.... if anything they should be MORE careful with things like that, considering how the world has gone to crap lately, and no one is truely safe anymore.... ESPECIALLY little kids. Thank the gods they are okay! ~Angel Wolfe~  |
Date: 7/14/2004 8:53:00 PM
From Authorid: 29534
Oh my... I would have been so upset. Children need to be supervised or someone with them to watch them, anything can happen to them. They can not fend for themselves. That was WRONG for the counselors to leave them there by themselves. I feel the same way you do. *hugs*  |
Date: 7/14/2004 8:57:00 PM
From Authorid: 53961
You are so right! Unreal! What if it was raining or he had a flat tire or anything. Man, we have to be so careful these days.  |
Date: 7/14/2004 9:00:00 PM
From Authorid: 36994
I don't have kids, but I'd be outraged if this happened to my niece or nephew. The fact that they are young children, left alone, now a days no telling what could've happened. I would of done the same thing in your situation, go right down there and give them a piece of my mind. It's their responsibility to look out for these kids!Grrr...  |
Date: 7/14/2004 9:01:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
~OMG~ Jen! How DARE she????!?? Can you imagine if a pedophile just happened to be watching & just happened to notice the lax attitude of the staff???? I know you can't do the "what if....." thing, but it is time to raise the roof on this one. Give the kids a kiss for me, and take care  |
Date: 7/14/2004 9:10:00 PM
From Authorid: 24003
OMG I would be down there raising hell.  |
Date: 7/14/2004 9:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 53157
Thats HORRIBLE, i cant believe they left little kids there, i guess they arent doin there job. I mean anything could of happened. People these days.  |
Date: 7/14/2004 9:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 50434
If they were responsable to stay until each child got picked up and instead left, I would be very upset, seeing that know a days anything can happen. I would discuss this with the program and let them know they need to be more careful. But yet not assuming they are 100% at fault seeing your husband wasnt there in time, but they are more at fault then your husband. I wouldnt pull them out of the camp, it sounds like a one time incident and wouldnt want to punish the kids, especially if they like camp, by not sending them.  |
Date: 7/14/2004 10:11:00 PM
From Authorid: 12341
Anything could happen to cause a parent to be delayed. Car trouble or illness, who knows? Bottom line though, why would someone not CARE enough to wait a little longer for the sake of the children, WITHOUT assuming, who cares why?? The children should never be left like that. A position based on trust, on the assumption that one's child will be looked after in case of any likelihood of personal emergency or time hindrance could and SHOULD always be part of the position. The welfare of the child is upon those who in such a position until they safely determine the child is delivered into the "safe hands" of a parent or assigned gaurdian. Anything less is disregard for the welfare and saftey of the child. No excuse there.  |
Date: 7/14/2004 10:38:00 PM
From Authorid: 16671
I agree with brenda  |
Date: 7/14/2004 11:00:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Starbright, running late happens to even the most careful people on occassion and there are things that happen that are beyond your control. You could very well intend to pick up your kids on time and end up stranded on the side of the road with a flat tire. The reason that my husband was late makes no difference. They allowed a 5 and 7 year old to fend for themselves and anything could have happened to them.  |
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Date: 7/14/2004 11:03:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
Brenda I actually plan on asking the director if there is ANY mention in return of the fact that my husband was late or any statements along the lines of "he should have been there on time", what they would be saying to me right now if my children were missing or they had gotten seriously hurt and how they would be addressing the media with the fact that they allowed a 5 and 7 year old to be left standing alone. |
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Date: 7/14/2004 11:05:00 PM
From Authorid: 50434
No i totally agree with you. Im just saying he was a bit at fault to, but im not saying what they did was okay, they are soley repsonsable, seeing they are suppose to stay witht he kids until they get picked up. Im gld nothing bad happened and I hope you really reem them out. |
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Date: 7/14/2004 11:12:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
I never stated that my husband held no fault. The situation in regards to my husband's actions is a whole other discussion in itself. |
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Date: 7/14/2004 11:23:00 PM
From Authorid: 50434
When it comes down to it, the one at fault is the camp. |
Date: 7/14/2004 11:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 58308
that's a shame. some people just don't care. i hope you get things worked out really soon.  |
Date: 7/15/2004 1:50:00 AM
From Authorid: 23796
OM Friggin G!! I would be So Furious!!! You kids must have been so confused!!! Time to raise hell hon!!  |
Date: 7/15/2004 4:52:00 AM
From Authorid: 38406
Your camp does it different from ours. See my camp that I work at is on the other side of town and most kids live on a different side from the camp. We also have another camp in that same town. Which is about 150 kids. My camp is about 280 kids. We meaning the counselors don't ride home with the kids on the bus their is just to many of them to ride home with. So in a way they do fend for themselves. You are lucky that counselors do ride home with your kids. If that is her job to stay and watch the kids until they leave than you should go down there and said something to her director. It wasn't right for her to do that. Thanks for sharing!  |
Date: 7/15/2004 5:14:00 AM
From Authorid: 8278
OMG!! if the bus EVER did that to my child I would have a complaint filed so fast their heads would spin (and he is 9 years old) children need CONSTANT supervision. these are 2 small children. anything could have happened (and THANK GOD nothing did!!) I would definitly go there and let them have it and take the children out. tell them you are not allowing your children to go to a place that can't watch the kids. ohhhh...things like this get me so angry!  |
Date: 7/15/2004 7:25:00 AM
From Authorid: 9509
I can't believe that stupid little ..... well, I won't go there, but make sure if you see her you tell her what a horrible person she is for leaving the children like that. I'm so mad just after reading this post I wish I could see her to tell her off myself. Make sure you let us know what happens.  |
Date: 7/15/2004 7:34:00 AM
From Authorid: 13119
You can go down and have her reprimanded or you can demand her job but don't do what the first person said, to sue over this is ridiculous!  |
Date: 7/15/2004 7:47:00 AM
From Authorid: 30747
I'm not so sure it was the camps fault as it was the monitor and the bus driver. Especially the monitor. I hope she gets replaced and I would give the camp another try. Also I would turn hubbys alarm up loud enough to wake the neighborhood. *smiles*  |
Date: 7/15/2004 8:29:00 AM
From Authorid: 62249
I think you're being over-protective. Say I have hippie ideals if you will, but you need to mellow out; kids have to learn to take care of themselves at some point in life, why not let them start early. I'm not saying give the kid a hundred bucks and let them loose on the streets, never to see them again... but being unsupervised for a little while isn't the worst possible thing. - MC Bacon  |
Date: 7/15/2004 8:47:00 AM
From Authorid: 15228
I don't think you can really blame the camp, it was the counselor who wasn't doing her job. I think if you go in and calmly tell them what happened (don't make excuses for your husband for failing to do HIS job) they will make sure it doesn't again happen in the future. If you haven't had any other problems with the camp, I think you should leave your kids there. It sounds like a wonderful program otherwise, wish they had something like it here!  |
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Date: 7/16/2004 7:20:00 AM
From Authorid: 23796
MC bacon, no, She is not being over protective. Do you have CHildren? Do you know the emotional and Logic Developement of a 5 & 7yr old. There are reasons why Kids aren't allowed to be home alone until 10+ and that is because they are not developmentally ready to fend for themselves or make sound judgments. They were in an unfamiliar enviroment and ANYTHING could have happened. Are you saying it's okay to leave a 5 & 7 yr old home alone while you run to the store for 20 minutes? That type of thinking will leave you with 2 dead kids and a burnt down house. I hope you give'm Heck hon. I wouldn't hold so much the camp responsible, where as they THOUGHT they had a responsible individual. The girl needs to go though. |
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Date: 7/16/2004 8:12:00 AM
From Authorid: 13119
I have to go with McBacon in one aspect, he isn't say leave them at home alone for 20 minutes by themself but maybe they could walk half way and meet their dad. My kids are 13 and 14 and they have been walking home since they were little. I guess it just depends on where you live, I lived on army bases when they were little and everyone knew everyone and looked after the children. I do take exception to him saying "you have to mellow out" she is a mom and she has every right to raise her babies how she sees fit and if it merits it freak right out on their heads. |
Date: 10/26/2005 10:28:00 AM
From Authorid: 40145
your hubby's at fault.. he should be on time no time what, the kids are important. everybody know that..  |
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Date: 10/26/2005 10:42:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 27046
As was stated above....you can make the best of plans and have no control of certain factors. He could have been stranded by the side of the road with a flat tire. Regardless of the reason why he or any other parent arrives late, you don't just let a 5 and 7 year old alone to wander aimlessly around...you would think EVERYONE would know that much. |
