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Is it ok to act outside of your race?

  Author:  52140  Category:(Debate) Created:(7/9/2004 7:00:00 PM)
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Have you ever seen 'Malibu's Most Wanted'? In the movie, there's this white kid (Brad) who's dad is running for governor (I think). Brad's dad's friend hires some men to kidnap Brad and threaten to kill him. Long story short, it takes people a while to realize that in his heart that brad REALLY is 'black'.

In my school, I've noticed that people make fun of white kids when they try to act 'black', like wear the baggy clothes and the 'bling' and even talk in Ebonics. My friend Matt made fun of the movie Honey (which I wanted to kill him for lol) because 'it has a white girl trying to be black'.

What do you think of white people who dress and talk 'black' and listen to rap and stuff?

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Date: 7/9/2004 7:04:00 PM  From Authorid: 62249    White peopels trying to be black, black people trying to be white, latinos trying to be black... like whatever. Do what you want, regardless of what others think, but I personally don't like it. - MC Bacon  
Date: 7/9/2004 7:17:00 PM  From Authorid: 21867    "Act outside your race"...hmmmm....quite the minefield, and one that could well stir a hornets nest of debate. Perhaps a good place to start would be to define HOW any RACE acts??? Whites acting Black?? Blacks acting White??? Well...how do 'Black people' or 'White people' act exactly??? Might need a metal detector to safely cross this one....Peace,  
Date: 7/9/2004 7:19:00 PM  From Authorid: 24319    I don't worry about what other people choose to dress like, or how they talk. My sister and brother had hardcore rap fans, my sister dates a black man, and they at time say the word "yo" a little too much. However, it doesn't change that they are good people. So, I don't think much of it either way.  
Date: 7/9/2004 7:23:00 PM  From Authorid: 62249    What is menas by thi9s is the typical sterotype.. which let me say, sterotypes dont just come out of thin air. For example, the typical middle aged beer bellied white guy who wears nice watches and drives sedans, and who try to be cool, but usually it backfires on them (example: my uncle) - MC Bacon  
Date: 7/9/2004 7:28:00 PM  From Authorid: 16671    I figure different strokes for different folks. As long as they are comfortable with themselves, I guess it doesnt matter how they act.Or should I say what color they act. LOl  
Date: 7/9/2004 7:40:00 PM  From Authorid: 22992    Well i think if it fits them then its fine with me. For example, if Bill Gates were to start "acting black" as you put it, then i think many would have a problem.. you see?  
Date: 7/9/2004 7:40:00 PM  From Authorid: 22992    Haha I now seeBill Gates in a totally different way now.. lol  
Date: 7/9/2004 7:44:00 PM  From Authorid: 19460    My son is white as snow, but he is a black child at heart LOL Nah, he is just into the hip hop thing really deep, and he has this thing for little black girls. He cant help it. We live in a town where atleast (if not more) of the population is black. It's just what he is used to. I dont see anything wrong with it, and to him, he is not "acting black" he is being Charles.  
Date: 7/9/2004 8:15:00 PM  From Authorid: 53900    Hmmmm well I am as white as you get and dont think I act any one way. I act like myself I just happen t enjoy rap music...and why exactly does rap have to be classified as black music??? I think it is stupid to think that any one person has to act any certain way just cause of the color of their skin and defenitely agree with Agent Smith on this one...you may be getting in deep with this debate  
Date: 7/9/2004 8:27:00 PM  From Authorid: 28270    I like to think That you don't have to like someone for acting differently, but should treat them w/ respect.  
Date: 7/9/2004 8:33:00 PM  From Authorid: 29534    I'm not racist, so I'm not sure what you mean by talking like they are "black". If you mean people wanting to act like other people, that's a different story totally. I don't have a problem with it to each their own. But every person should want to be their own person, that's what makes everyone unique, if we were all the same life would be so boring. That's just my point of veiw. *hugs*  
Date: 7/9/2004 8:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 61013    personally I dont mind them listning to rap i wont tho but dressing and talking like they're black is just play stupid...  
Date: 7/9/2004 9:12:00 PM  From Authorid: 24003    Dont matter to me.  
Date: 7/9/2004 9:18:00 PM  From Authorid: 57726    *Rolls her eyes* It shouldn't bother me, but it does lol. It just totally get's on my nerves.  
Date: 7/9/2004 9:22:00 PM  From Authorid: 42568    It's that person's business what they want to listen to or act like.  
Date: 7/9/2004 9:29:00 PM  From Authorid: 17081    The movie is irritating and so are the wannabes.  
Date: 7/9/2004 9:36:00 PM  From Authorid: 62752    i say WELCOME to AMERICA.. free country.. :-) KK  
Date: 7/9/2004 10:46:00 PM  From Authorid: 34912    I know I'm the odd man out, but I personally think it shows a person's inability to develop as a person when they have to emulate soemthing they aren't. I'm wouldn't call it "acting black". White kids try to act like they have lived and experienced life in a way they haven't and it's both rediculous to me. It's the same as me acting as though I was a 1930s Chicago gangster. I would be living in some fantasy world and it would just be stupid of me because it's NOT me. I'd be a poser and faker. Although Malibu's Most Wanted didn't make it the point of the movie, this irony was captured perfectly when he's sitting on the back pool area of his dad's mansion being served breakfast by the black maid while he says to her "when are dey gonna leave our peepol alone?" The same absurdity makes me laugh at suburbian white kids who act like they've lived on the streets their whole life. Please spare me, you patheric posers.  
Date: 7/9/2004 10:59:00 PM  From Authorid: 53900    Pacific Soul...why is it you would assume that whites(or latinos or asains or any other race) cannot know what it is to grow up on the streets? I may not have grown up on the streets but I sure as heck know what a hard life is and can defenitely relate to some of the things expressed in this music. I mean lets just say for example that country music or rock is "white music" would you say that any black who listens to it is a "poser"? Or would you say a black person who didnt speak in ebonics is trying to "act" white?  
Date: 7/9/2004 11:23:00 PM  From Authorid: 58809    Ha..this debate caught my attention. Agent Smith is right....  
Date: 7/10/2004 12:06:00 AM  From Authorid: 28190    I think as long as a person is comfortable and acting the way they feel, than who am I to say its right or wrong. I mean, I am a decendent of Cherokee indian myself, it makes up a part of who I am, but you wont see me walking around in a head dress or mocassins. Does that make me a poser because I act the way I feel and in this case I guess it would be considered the "white way". Although I don't view it like that. I am myself, and thats all I know how to be. Im sure that everyone else is the same way, especially when it comes to this. What music you listen to and what you dress in does not make who you are on the inside, but it can reflect how your personality really is. I don't see how you can label that in any way, shape or form, to be race related. JMO. *hugs*  
Date: 7/10/2004 2:04:00 AM  From Authorid: 53054    I am with agent smith on this one...these are only sterotypes, is there a way that white and black people should act? Is rap only for black people? this could seem really racist to some people...baggy clothes are not only for black people, other wise they would have a big sign saying white people cant wear them....if people start to think like this then there are really going to be problems in the future...we dress like we want, the unimportant factors are what race we are and our background...if white people want to were baggy clothes then they are able to, and if black people choose to listen to classical music then let them...rap is not only for black people!  
Date: 7/10/2004 4:12:00 AM  From Authorid: 62588    =0)~ I don't think of it as "acting black" but on how you want to represent yourself. When I person uses "ebonics" wheather they are white or black, my mind automatically draws the conclusion that they are less educated then the person who uses plain english. How they dress (fubu or Tommy) doesn't matter to me, but a person who wears hip-hanging loose pants seems sloppy and therfor less clean to me. In my heart, I know that this probably isn't true, but in my mind, I loose some respect for a person who tries to represent themselves in a negative way. THAT being said, if a person is sloppy or uneducated, I don't care if they are black white or neon green. I try to look past first apperances always. After all, if I were going to be judges by my spelling skills, I'd appear very uneducated and sloppy!  
Date: 7/10/2004 4:54:00 AM  From Authorid: 19613    I'm Green.  
Date: 7/10/2004 4:57:00 AM  From Authorid: 36901    It really bothers me when I hear people say someone 'acts black'. It's so sterotypical. I've been accused of that more than once and called horrible names that I can't mention here. I listen to rap music, the guy I've been seeing since Danny and I broke up is black (my family and friends are losing their minds over it), certain ways that I dress at times, etc... I'm me. I'm not trying to act like a certain color or a certain person. I just do as I like. People who can't accept that can step.  
Date: 7/10/2004 5:50:00 AM  From Authorid: 8817    i think the way you act is mostly due to where you grew up. I was born and raised in Detroit and then moved to a higher upper class white area and i stuck out like a sore thumb. But it doesn't really matter people are who they are and who cares what others think or say.  
Date: 7/10/2004 6:07:00 AM  From Authorid: 61013    People are gonna be who they wanna no matter if we like it or not so I guess we might as well get over it. <hugs> Love, Keri  
Date: 7/10/2004 9:29:00 AM  From Authorid: 34912    It's not about acting like a certain race. THe title to this debate misleading. Its about acting as though you've experienced life in a way you haven't. Kids from middle class suburban neighborhoods who act as though they lived their life in Compton are pretenders and posers and it's pathetic to see. They can't just be themselves.
  
Date: 7/10/2004 9:31:00 AM  From Authorid: 34912    Jessica... re-read my statement please. I wasn't talking about race at all. Why are you?  
Date: 7/10/2004 10:18:00 AM  From Authorid: 13729    "Live and let live"....If you treat people with respect you can "act" any way you want in my opinion.......  
Date: 7/10/2004 10:40:00 AM  From Authorid: 58334    You should be who you are regardless of your race. If you are comfortable with yourself and aren't acting to be cool, then it's fine.  
Date: 7/10/2004 1:39:00 PM  From Authorid: 54987    Well you never really get black kids trying to be white.... except in the White Chicks movie. Not happy being white I suppose... they'll grow out of it.  
Date: 7/10/2004 3:39:00 PM  From Authorid: 55967    Is it "okay?" Who's the judge? There are no real rules here. Only opinions. Opinions should never be taken as guidelines on how to act or live. You want to know why people criticize that? It's because it looks like someone being a "wannabe." A "wannabe" is, of course, a "loser." They're someone who wants to be something they can't be. Therefore, they're a fake, a loser. That's where that opinion comes from. If you don't believe that opinion, then forget about anyone who holds it and be yourself. Period.  
Date: 7/10/2004 4:26:00 PM  From Authorid: 62782    I personally dont care how people act. But the whole "Black-scent" thing is getting old and irritating. And oh yeah "Honey" she isnt a white girl trying to be black she is a White/Mexican girl trying to be black.
Date: 7/10/2004 7:32:00 PM  From Authorid: 62599    humanawah? U gotta stop looking at it as ''acting black'' and ''acting white''. In fact, why don't you stop ''acting'' all together and be yourself. Yeah I sound corny...but it's the truth.  
Date: 7/10/2004 7:34:00 PM  From Authorid: 62599    How can you ''try'' to be black? Your what you are, just be whatever the heck you wanna be, and if people bug you for it then they aren't worth your time.  
Date: 7/11/2004 3:36:00 AM  From Authorid: 22080    how about its not doing anything 'black' its doing something of the rap/hiphop culture. i know its retarded and NOONE should behave like that but it still happens.  
Date: 7/11/2004 9:52:00 AM  From Authorid: 47218    I find it very interesting, because it brings to our attention the symbolic significance of things that would otherwise go unnoticed-- inflection, choice of words, dress, mannerisms-- and makes you really think about it. Why is it so objectionable for someone with white skin to "talk black"-- to change their inflection, take up new vocabulary words, drop the copular "be" (e.g. "She late" instead of "she is late"? What if the person was black but, like the white person, had been grown up in a suburban middle-class neighborhood and hadn't been raised to speak that dialect but suddenly, like the white kid, took it up because it has been popularized through hip-hop? Would it be more acceptable? It makes you consider how we use language to assert our identity.  
Date: 7/11/2004 7:24:00 PM  From Authorid: 62557    there were white girls who went to school with me, who went with black guys, and they talked more street than the guys did. it was really weird
Date: 7/13/2004 10:58:00 AM  From Authorid: 62267    I don't think there is one way for one race to act at all. I think that is called sereotyping(sp). Everyone is different and we shouldn't catagorize things by race. That would be just like saying white people were all squares and all blacks were from "da' hood" and are all rough folks. Don't agree with that.  
Date: 7/13/2004 5:37:00 PM  From Authorid: 56297    I say let people be who they want to be its not a big deal, who says a certain race has to act a certain way and another race cant, i have many friends who are white and wear the bling and the baggy clothes and i luv em just the same in my school they dont get made fun of.  
Date: 7/13/2004 7:59:00 PM  From Authorid: 51070    Whatever rocks their boat, I guess.  
Date: 7/14/2004 7:44:00 AM  From Authorid: 50435    The whole "urban" scene is undeniably a creation of blacks. To state that you're not racist is to state that you're not observant and in many cases ignorant. If you don't see me as a White individual and treat me as such then I will ignore you. Different races breed different cultures. I'm not going to discuss the goings on at a pub with a Somali woman who is Muslim. If I were to state that I don't see colours or races or religion then I would, by that same logic, feel it appropriate to discuss such things with a Muslim woman. Generally, people are proud of their heritage. For you to take it upon yourself to nullify their heritage because you don't differentiate between individuals is more of a slap in the face than "respectful and decent". I see black people as black people. I see Asians as Asians. I see Whites as Whites. Pretending that we're all the same isn't going to solve anything. We are not all the same. I don't equate myself with Asians and I'm reasonably certain that they feel the same way. We don't eat the same foods, we don't sing the same traditional songs, we don't have the same languages(barring those who live here). We don't have the same history. So how can anyone sit there and say that we're all the same? Now, as for this whole urban scene: 1) White kids trying to act like they're straight out of Compton is a problem. They're downgrading themselves. What they're saying, conciously or not, is that they are putting their roots on the backburner in order to take on a persona of a hoodlum. Whites have gone through their barbarian stage already. It's time to move on, 2) Blacks propagating and lifting the "thug" image negates all of the sacrifices and struggles made by their people only decades ago. Glorifying the "thug" image and maintaining it speaks volumes. What it says is the rednecks of yesteryear were correct in their assessments of Black people, 3) What exactly is "Blacks trying to be White"? If you mean by that a Black person getting an education and a good job and using the English language properly then I don't see the problem. But the Black community seems to. While they sit and whine that a Black person can't get a decent education or a fair chance at a good job they also shun any Black person who actually does get an education and a good job and label them as being a "sellout". Counter-productive, no?  
Date: 7/16/2004 6:00:00 PM  From Authorid: 51456    IN movies I think its a bit different because in movies they are trying to get a reaction and build a reputation for these people that try to act that way in the movie such as : o they aren't cool , and aren't who they are supposed to be.. and so on..i can't really put it into words but you know what i mean. I think that its okay for people to be who they want to be and who they are in their personalities. Most of the time kids are excused for behaviours like that because according to everyone else 'they don't knwo any better, they are just playing around' or they are raised in that kind of environment where people only 'act white' or aonly 'act balck' so when somebody does not feel that way their personalities are changed and opnions bent to be able to fit into their race or society. Thats what makes kids stand out and be bullied-becasue they want to be different. I don't think there is anyhting wrong wih people acting out of their race however i don't really like the kids that smoke pot jsut cause its cool, and listen to rap because its cool and dress theway they think people would want them to dress. TIf a kid acts tTHAT waybecause that is actually waht they like then society assumes that that kid is just trying to be "cool or misbehaving".... I am nto wuite sure how to put it into words, my vocabulary is kidna messed right now. But ya'll get what I mean?..hehe.  

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