Date: 6/14/2004 10:17:00 AM
From Authorid: 53054
WOW interesting question....well i dont know if i would open the door or not...you dont know if the person who raped the person is still outside?? and will try and enter your house if you open the door??? I believe i would have to call an ambulance and the police, but i dont believe that i would let them into my house...1. if they die in my house will i be charged with anything...these days you never know...if they lose a pulse and are in my house do i have to give them cpr??? i dont think i would want the risk of them being in my house...becuase of things that could happen...i know what has happened to the person is bad, but you still have to take care of yourself first...if i knew the person, then i dunno, i would probabbly let them into my house....  |
Date: 6/14/2004 10:18:00 AM
From Authorid: 13546
Yes I would.. if I see a person in need, regardless if I know them or not, I will do my best to try and help them. Because I think that, if I didn't help them in their greater time of need, and something more horrible happened to them, I would regret it for the rest of my life. Of course I would call proper parties to help , but I would jump in as well.  |
Date: 6/14/2004 10:19:00 AM
From Authorid: 13119
I would definitely bring them in, I would also ensure that my family was safely stored behind a locked door with another way out. but I would not let anyone bleed to death in front of me. Call 911 and let them in.  |
Date: 6/14/2004 10:33:00 AM
From Authorid: 62624
If I were home alone with the kids, I don't think that I could answer the door. If my husband were home, then I would. Like you said, you don't know these people. It could all be staged. Could be that a criminal has been watching your house for quite some time...knows your routine and is willing to try anything to get into your house. Can't be too careful now days. Kimberley  |
Date: 6/14/2004 10:35:00 AM
From Authorid: 62191
First, I wouldn't just open the door, that person could be really nasty and or there could be a number of other situations that could arise. Firstly, I'd call the police, and explain to them the situation. I guess I'd have a house in this situation, so I'd let them sit on my porch and wait for the cops, and then, try to calm them down, and listen to whatever they have to say, perhaps give them some stuff to clean themselves up with.
Ive actually been through a situation like this before, with this guy named Franky. He sat outside my neighbors door screaming his head off. He's a midget, and was beat up by three big guys who wanted money from him, he was sitting on my friends porch, bleeding all over the place. So I came over to help him out, however, I already knew him... I dont know, I guess I'd help the person out, a fair amount, I wouldn't just leave someone hangin' especially if their life is in danger. ~Pinner |
Date: 6/14/2004 10:37:00 AM
From Authorid: 53284
I would offer help. Although it is certainly possible that this could be some sort of set up for a crime against me, I would help.  |
Date: 6/14/2004 10:42:00 AM
From Authorid: 13937
I'm really weird about letting strangers into my home. Just the other day a girl came banging on the door at 3am wanting to come in (no way). However, if she were bleeding, half nude, and distraught I would certainly let her in. I would be extrememly nervous and cautious (running around locking doors and windows) just incase the perpetrator showed up for her, but there is no way I could just turn my back and tell her to go away.  |
Date: 6/14/2004 10:47:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15157
LiLLeppy...true we probably would have to take the chance to let them in...You would have to do it right away so that...just in case the attacker was still lurking around!  |
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Date: 6/14/2004 10:49:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15157
Rainbow..remember you must be careful as well! |
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Date: 6/14/2004 10:50:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15157
Magoo...I find that a very cautious way to do that....I like that!...I would probably do that as well. If it were a man...my husband would handle it...if a woman I would be the one handling it. |
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Date: 6/14/2004 10:52:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15157
Kimberly...this is true also...some people could be so cruel and deceptive...it is unreal!...Maybe I would call the police for the victim and let them stay outside with a warm blanket and try to help them until the Ambulence arrives! |
Date: 6/14/2004 10:53:00 AM
From Authorid: 60395
i would go get one of my parents, if they weren't home i would call 911 because i have to think about my little brother,and his safety.  |
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Date: 6/14/2004 10:54:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15157
Wildbob...Pinner and Sepulveda...I agree...depending on the time of day or night..would probably make that decision for me. We must foremost be cautious. |
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Date: 6/14/2004 10:55:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15157
Bass chick if you are a minor...I would not suggest you EVER opening the door to a stranger no matter what! |
Date: 6/14/2004 10:59:00 AM
From Authorid: 57579
I would definitely open the door for a girl crying rape. Even if she wasnt actually raped something else could have happen. Also there are several different definitions of rape like being touched against your will. Also the girl could have gone out with some guy she knew and he decided he was gonna get his way with her but she escaped and needs protection from him. Some dont get away and that's a terrible feeling. I should know because I was raped a little over a month ago  |
Date: 6/14/2004 11:01:00 AM
From Authorid: 62675
I would but I would be dialing 911 as I opened the door. That way if it was true they would be in transit and if it was false they would be in transit. Especially where I live it that happened, I would be 99.9% sure that it was true (always room for a little doubt). -Sunni818  |
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Date: 6/14/2004 11:04:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15157
Mystyspirit...I am sorry that this happened to you...I hope you reported it. I also must add we had a thing here in San Antonio when I was a kid..where the residents would put a Red Hand in their front window as a symbol..of "A Place For you to Get a Helping Hand"....I am certain there were those who abused this situation that is why it was stopped. |
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Date: 6/14/2004 11:09:00 AM
From Authorid: 57579
yeah it was reported and I have court in august he's already trying to make me look bad though by telling his friends to spread rumors that I wanted it and such which all my friends and most every knows isnt true because the night before we went out he tried the same thing on another girl but didnt get as far with her |
Date: 6/14/2004 11:10:00 AM
From Authorid: 3648
Well here's my reply before reading the comments.... ummmm I think I would call 911 first before opening my door to the person....I live in the sticks and I don't take to opening my door to just any one...have to protect my kids first...cause you gotta think it through.. this person could be trying to pull the wool over my eyes to get into my house and cause harm...So I would tell the person that 911 has been called and police are on their way...So my answer is no I would not open my door and it has nothing to do with the ramifications of getting involved I could face it has to do with protecting my family and keeping them safe...  |
Date: 6/14/2004 11:10:00 AM
From Authorid: 34912
you have to go out an help. THis shouldn't even be a debatable issue. We can never let ourselves become so paranoid or uninvovledthat we won't step out of our saftey zone to help someone even if it's a risk to ourselves. I say shame on anyone who hesitates or doesn't open the door.  |
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Date: 6/14/2004 11:15:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15157
MS...that is to be expected when it is the mans word against the womans...Although the Man can have as many affairs as he wants...its ok...but when a woman has more that one lover...we are called the worst names they can come up with...They will certainly want to drag you down to their level!....Remember this was not your fault!...Physical Sexual encounters must be Consensual...and we (as women) have the right to say NO at any time! Hold your head up....never be embarrassed...you have rights too!...Good Luck sweetheart and msg me if you wanna talk ...my yahoo is kiki_usm Add Me! |
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Date: 6/14/2004 11:18:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15157
Pacific...I have to disagree about being shamed for not opening that door...We must take in account our safety first and then proceed with good intentions to help. |
Date: 6/14/2004 11:18:00 AM
From Authorid: 58809
Yeah, well...I'd open the door enough to see them through the screen door. That thing is pretty hard to bust open. I'd ask what happened and then tell a family member to call 911, or just do it myself. But I'd have to keep an eye on them just in case they aren't who they say they are or if the attacker comes back or something like that.  |
Date: 6/14/2004 11:23:00 AM
From Authorid: 50434
I would have called 911 right away and told the person to hang on....I dont think I would let them in thinking of the possibilty of the attacker still being out there but I would watch the victim from the window in case then left to verify to 911 were and what direction they went in. Also if it was day time I most likely would have opened the door pulled them in and locked my door...either way to help somone now a days your presenting yourself for harm because of so many scams. Like the one I heard of an eldery lady along side the road need car help, someone pulled over and 2 men came fromt he ditch beat this man nearly to death and stole his car...and yes the old lady was apart of this. Sad isnt it.  |
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Date: 6/14/2004 11:25:00 AM
From Authorid: 34912
Maybe because I'm a man I see things differently. You described... "You Look out the window and see this person...bleeding and half-nude from the altercation" ~with those kinds of cirumstances, we have to do something. I wouldn't think twice. I find that to unconscionable |
Date: 6/14/2004 11:35:00 AM
From Authorid: 56293
I may or may not let them in my house, but I would want to help. Call 911 or something. I always think, what if it were me? If I was the one who was raped, I would hope someone would help me.  |
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Date: 6/14/2004 11:36:00 AM
From Authorid: 62756
This is a tough call. I think it all depends on the situation at hand. If I were alone or not. Most definatly the first thng I would do is call the police. and as far as opening the door? As much as I want to say yes to help this poor soul, I'd have to say, I think not. A long time ago My boyfreind was on the road. He was in a famous 80's band. I was home alone. a young girl knocked on my door asking for help. I opened, she steped aside and a man rushed in pushing me down on the ground with a knife to my throut. I got cut because i was basically fighting this. Mean while as he held me down. Another person was taking all our stuff. mainly my boyfreinds extra musical equipment. All though we think it was a set up to get his stuff. I open that door because I thought someoe was really in need of help.And for me it turned out to be an real big mistake. I think its best to let authorities handle this type of situation. they are trained for it. Just make sure you call police first thing. I'm lucky I didnt get raped. or murdered. only cut in my hand. |
Date: 6/14/2004 11:43:00 AM
From Authorid: 61811
Like you just said, I'm a minor and wouldnt. If I were older (of course by then my beliefs might change)I would let them in and call the police. I would fix any minor wounds, but if there are major ones, I'll tell the cops about those and to bring first aid people or I might make things worse. The only exception of letting them in my house is if they don't give me good vibes. I can usually tell if someones lying.  |
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Date: 6/14/2004 12:05:00 PM
From Authorid: 62445
I'm hardly ever alone either way ...I would keep in mind this could be a set up.Yeah I would open the main door but not the cast iron screen door....I would tell them to sit on the porch and I'm gonna call the cops and the paramedics, and do not leave the porch they'll be here shortly.Hey if they leave the porch its's not my fault they died I did the best I possibly could do without putting myself in danger's hands.~Charmlit |
Date: 6/14/2004 12:06:00 PM
From Authorid: 62753
Okay - here's my answer... If my husband was home, I would have him open the door, and help, while i shelter my child in a another room of the house. If I was alone- with no husband or son, I would probably, on instinct call the cops first, then try to see wether it is a man or woman. This is a hard question. I would probably open the door and try to help - against my better judgement. I would also try to call my next door neighbors as well. But NOT before I grab my gun would i open the door! Lizard-1  |
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Date: 6/14/2004 12:07:00 PM
From Authorid: 62445
I'm hardly ever alone either way ...I would keep in mind this could be a set up.Yeah I would open the main door but not the cast iron screen door....I would tell them to sit on the porch and I'm gonna call the cops and the paramedics, and do not leave the porch they'll be here shortly.Hey if they leave the porch its's not my fault they died I did the best I possibly could do without putting myself in danger's hands.~Charmlit |
Date: 6/14/2004 12:11:00 PM
From Authorid: 62445
ooops sorry about the replay.
Yeah that's what I'm saying Tina-2,Thank God it wasnt worser .~Charmlit |
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Date: 6/14/2004 12:24:00 PM
From Authorid: 13119
Lizard you do know that a gun can be used against you if you aren't careful. |
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Date: 6/14/2004 12:36:00 PM
From Authorid: 62753
i would not own a gun if i didn't know how to handle it. Lizard-1 |
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Date: 6/14/2004 12:39:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15157
Ah yes the GUN! |
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Date: 6/14/2004 12:48:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15157
Pacific...ok you being a man...do you think that if the victim (if it were a woman)...would even allow you to even help her?....ramifications remember? |
Date: 6/14/2004 12:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 62476
Well like some people are saying the rapist is probably still there. I'd make sure to check outside and call 911 and then scream through the door that help is on the way. When the cops and medics get there then i'd open the door. So my answer would be not until the cops and medics get there-Shorty8  |
Date: 6/14/2004 12:56:00 PM
From Authorid: 49952
That's a tricky question, but it does get us to ponder a "what if" situation. I've heard of unfortunate stories where the "good samartians" were also victimized or killed because they responded to a fake plead for help. However, if this is an actual event taking place at my front door, I'll help the victim without hesitation. But first, I'd rush to retrieve my pistol and be prepared to protect my family and myself, just in case, a plea turns out to be a fake. I’d direct someone to call 911 while I open the door cautiously and armed. First, I'll reassure the victim that I’ll help and won't harm her/him. If possible, I'd let the victim know that I'll have my firearm in my other hand for protection and won’t be used to aim at the victim-the victim would be traumatized already. I’d use my best judgment if this terrifies the victim further. If the perpetrator is trying to access my home knowing that the victim is inside, I'd make a firm verbal threat that the perpetrator must leave immediately or a deadly consequence would follow. If the perpetrator ignores my warning and eventually breaks into my residence, the perpetrator will be gunned down as a last resort. In most states, ignoring a victim's plea for help is considered a crime. It’s because you’re partially responsible for the victim’s life even if you were quietly enjoying your dinner with your family when the victim comes to your door. If the police finds out that you “refused” or “ignored” the victim’s plea for help, you’ll be prosecuted and punished to the fullest extent of the law. However, if you know this is a total fake because you just saw them standing just a few houses away when the victim starts to run to your home-call 911 for police immediately and don't open the door. Kids, never open the door and let one of your parents make the decision. God bless.  |
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Date: 6/14/2004 12:59:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15157
Not to sound nonapathetic..but can you imagine that scene?...*calling through the door*..."HELPS ON THE WAY!!!...DON`T BLEED TOO MUCH!" |
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Date: 6/14/2004 1:00:00 PM
From Authorid: 34912
Keeks, This is getting rediculous. They're crying "rape!", aren't they? You say in their post they are crying for help. What ramifications come into this picture that outweighs the expediency of someone in need of help,immediate medical care, and shelter? Am I going to come up to this person alone, beaten and pleading for help and have them say "oh, no thanks, you're a man... I prefer a woman to help me." |
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Date: 6/14/2004 1:09:00 PM
From Authorid: 49952
That's a tricky question, but it does get us to ponder a "what if" situation. I've heard of unfortunate stories where the "good samartians" were also victimized or killed because they responded to a fake plead for help. However, if this is an actual event taking place at my front door, I'll help the victim without hesitation. But first, I'd rush to retrieve my pistol and be prepared to protect my family and myself, just in case, a plea turns out to be a fake. I’d direct someone to call 911 while I open the door cautiously and armed. First, I'll reassure the victim that I’ll help and won't harm her/him. If possible, I'd let the victim know that I'll have my firearm in my other hand for protection and won’t be used to aim at the victim-the victim would be traumatized already. I’d use my best judgment if this terrifies the victim further. If the perpetrator is trying to access my home knowing that the victim is inside, I'd make a firm verbal threat that the perpetrator must leave immediately or a deadly consequence would follow. If the perpetrator ignores my warning and eventually breaks into my residence, the perpetrator will be gunned down as a last resort. In most states, ignoring a victim's plea for help is considered a crime. It’s because you’re partially responsible for the victim’s life even if you were quietly enjoying your dinner with your family when the victim comes to your door. If the police finds out that you “refused” or “ignored” the victim’s plea for help, you’ll be prosecuted and punished to the fullest extent of the law. However, if you know this is a total fake because you just saw them standing just a few houses away when the victim starts to run to your home-call 911 for police immediately and don't open the door. Kids, never open the door and let one of your parents make the decision. God bless. |
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Date: 6/14/2004 1:18:00 PM
From Authorid: 49952
Sorry about the double posts. I can't turn my back on a victim's plea for help and when one's life is at stake. I'm a man and from my perspective, a male victim would be highly unlikely so I'd be highly suspicious. If he's bleeding to death, I'd help him anyhow, but I'll keep alert for a perpetrator hiding somewhere. I'd tell the victim that the police is coming. |
Date: 6/14/2004 1:24:00 PM
From Authorid: 6867
I'm sorry in this situation, you don't have enough time to stop and think...you just DO. I would grab the phone, dial 911...(even if I did not have time to talk they can trace my call and hear the commotion and send an officer or 2)In that time I would make sure my son is in his room with the door locked and I would cautiously open the door and let the person in. I would have to....I am not a nurse yet, but I am a nursing student, and I feel I have an obligation to help in any way possible, even if it's not medically. I would just take my chances. What does come to mind is the movie A Clockwork Orange...that's how that gang of boys would get into people's homes and terrorize them...by crying wolf. Tough question, I did go through a situation somewhat like the one you describe(minus the victim being half nude and raped)....my neighbor's girlfriend was trying to get away from him...he had been beating on her in his car and she was able to get away and my house was the closest...without hesitation I let her in, I was not going to let her stay out there. I would do it again in a heartbeat. Sometimes we have to take a chance....we really need to take care of each other. JMHO. HUG-A-NURSE,  |
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Date: 6/14/2004 2:18:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15157
Well Pacific...lemme tell you a woman in that distress would definately NOT say...NO THANKS yer a man...They would likely say...GET AWAY FROM ME!!! |
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Date: 6/14/2004 2:23:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15157
Ya if it were a man/victim...and me being definately a woman/good-samaritan that was home by herself...would probably throw out a blanket and yell....Hey Dude!...I just called 911 and Help`s On the way!!!!... |
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Date: 6/14/2004 4:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 34912
Keeks, if you really think that way, I feel sorry for you. |
Date: 6/14/2004 4:11:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15157
Pacific..hey this was a hypothetical question...I am giving all the points of view as I go along...forgive me if I seem nonchalant to the situation given. I would probably be one of the people who helps hun |
Date: 6/14/2004 4:40:00 PM
From Authorid: 44321
I would help...about a year ago,I was walking up to my husbands uncles house and a man was laying on the ground knocked out, his bike was next to him on the ground and his stuff scattered around him,nobody was helping him,I ran into the house and called 911, in that short amount of time ,some creep stole his bike,when the cops and rescue squad arrived I told them how he was found ,and that someone stole his bike.It took the cops and paramedics a few minutes to get him up and in the ambulance.  |
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Date: 6/14/2004 5:01:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15157
OOo Medusa!..we found a bicyclist that also fell off his bike on a dangerous curb too!>.and we took him to his house...man I was scared for the guy and my hubby was there thank God! |
Date: 6/14/2004 6:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 53909
I think that I would open the door to see if I can help them out but I would also take caution.  |
Date: 6/14/2004 9:19:00 PM
From Authorid: 9713
I would open the door and have the phone in hand to call the police for them, but the screen door would be shut and locked. You can't trust anybody these days, but you can still be helpful while being safe and call the police.  |
Date: 6/15/2004 5:09:00 AM
From Authorid: 28190
Yes I would.. I would though be cautious.. Call 911 before I opened the door, or as call and get the operator to ask whats going on as I open the door, that way my number has already registered in their tracing computer. I wouldn't be able to live with myself if something happened to him/her during that 4 minutes it takes a unit to respond... Just couldnt. Sometimes its necessary to take a risk, and in that case it would be for me. I hope nothing like that ever happens, but if it ever does, I have now thanks to your posting, got a plan of action. *hugs*  |
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Date: 6/15/2004 7:20:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15157
Hey! Well thats so cool to know Korngurl!... |
Date: 6/15/2004 7:31:00 AM
From Authorid: 4144
if i was home alone i would not open my door. i would call the police and tell the woman through the door that the police are on the way. if my husband was home, he could open the door while i held the gun. you never know if it's a trick to get you to open the door and who else is out there.  |
Date: 6/15/2004 12:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
call "911" & open the door at the same time. That way I am on the phone with the operator while emergency crews are on the way  |
Date: 6/16/2004 3:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 57225
i think i would, because even though its hard to trust anybody these days, i wouldn't be able to turn my back to someone who needed help that bad. knowing my luck, it'd probably be a big scam and tehy'd come in and kill me, rob my house, then go on to the next house, but yeah if it seemed legit, i would help them.  |
Date: 6/18/2004 8:05:00 PM
From Authorid: 54987
Of course I would! How can I not do so when a fellow human is suffering?  |
Date: 6/23/2004 2:08:00 AM
From Authorid: 53689
I'm about a week too late on this, but it's interesting that I found this. A couple of weeks ago, here in my little small town, a girl was raped, got away, beat on people's doors screaming that she had been raped..and nobody opened their doors. The man who raped her got her again and killed her. I personally believe that those people that didn't open their doors to her should be charged with her murder also.  |
Date: 7/2/2004 2:28:00 AM
From Authorid: 42945
I would have to jump in and help, and even though not giving much thought to my own safety, I know that I would have to help whomever....good post Sista Kitty Kat....hugs  |
