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Help with a stubborn 4 yr. old.

  Author:  49025  Category:(General Advice) Created:(6/1/2004 7:28:00 AM)
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Hi, everybody! I'm hoping maybe somebody here with small children can give me some advice. Like the title states, I need help with my stubborn 4 year old.

For the last few months, I have been at my wits end. Steven has become a very picky eater which in turn has caused him to become constipated. We've been to the doctor and he suggested increasing his fiber intake. That's great but have you ever tried that with a picky 4 year old? It's not an easy feat.

Now, our problem is the constipation is so bad, he refuses to go potty. We've tried prune juice, castor oil, various fruits and I've switched to whole wheat bread. I did some research on NIH's (National Institute of Health)website and found that kids his age need about 10 grams of fiber a day. I also found a list of foods and how much fiber they contain. I feel like I have tried everything to make some of these foods more fun but he's just not buying it. He goes potty maybe once a week and its very painful for him. We've even had to resort to giving him an enema a few times and it's not something I enjoy doing.

So, if anybody out there has some advice or tricks they've used, I sure could use the help!!

Thanks a bunch.....

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Date: 6/1/2004 7:41:00 AM  From Authorid: 8024    sometimes parenthood can be very difficult ... when it comes to the childs health you have to set rules I know it may be very difficult but if his health is affected as you say you must sit him down and find ways to make him eat ... you must set rules and be very strict with them be patient but be consistant ... a childs live that has consistancy and rules is a much easy life for the child and the parent ... It will be difficult @ first but after a few tough weeks he will come around ...I know because I've been there more than a few times ... you must continue to be creative but also be demanding habits are hard to break but they can be ...good luck ..  
Date: 6/1/2004 8:04:00 AM  From Authorid: 23075    yes what CC28 says....stick to a routine..and do not change it.....that's what I had to do with the kids that I babysit.....they fuss about it and I will not give in to them....  
Date: 6/1/2004 8:06:00 AM  From Authorid: 30747    Why isn't his doctor helping more with this problem? My son hardly ate anything the first 5 years of his life and I was always in a panic about it but he never had this problem. I'm thinking it's more than what he eats or don't eat. The body rids itself of what it takes in naturally reguardless. Some foods make it easier but to only go once a week tells me there's more going on that the fiber thing. I'm thinking it's something more physical. Probably not a big deal but I think I would get a specialist.  
Date: 6/1/2004 8:12:00 AM  From Authorid: 6867    Does he like fruit? Pears, bananas, and strawberries are high in fiber. My son wouldn't eat any veggies high in fiber, especially green beans. So, I started making the green bean casserole(recipe on the back of the French's Fried Onions can)and he really likes that...might be because of the crunchy stuff on top There was no trick...It took alot of persistance. I didn't give him any sweets...the only kind of snacks he got were nutirgrain bars ans other similiar things...if he didn't want them he didn't have to eat them, but I wouldn't give him anything in it's place. I gave him a meat and a vegtable at his meals...if he didn't like it, I didn't make him eat. BUT I never gave in and gave him what HE wanted(nothing but junk)He did go to bed hungry 2 nights in a row...but soon enough he learned he better eat what's on his plate or he gets nothing at all, and no snack before bedtime. I know it's hard to not give in when you see that cute little face...but remember behind that cute lil' face, lies a great manipulator, lol. Mom, you gotta buckle down, get on with the tough love, let him know...it's the good stuff or nothing at all...in a few days he'll be scarfing it down. I felt that I to reteach my son, as far as his tastes in food...now he is very open to many different kinds of "good food" You also have to get creative yourself with your recipes. It's hard work. Don't know what else to tell ya Good luck! HUG-A-NURSE,  
Date: 6/1/2004 8:53:00 AM  From Authorid: 62722    souldrifter, gia and cc28 offer good advise, we must take care of children, because they are an important source of protein.
lilwolf
  
Date: 6/1/2004 9:25:00 AM  From Authorid: 10245    I have a VERY picky 6 year old. He eats potatos, wheat bread, raspberry jelly, cereal, and junk. The only time he'll touch anything like meat, it must be in the form of a chicken nugget. And not just any old chicken nugget... it must be a McNugget. He won't even try anything different. Boost has become a staple of his diet. I'm afraid that if I do something like this, he will actually starve himself... he's that stubborn. I'm printing all this advice out to give myself the strength to try. I'm ready to pull my hair out over this issue. One more thing though... how do you manage to keep them out of the kitchen (sneaking snacks) during this process?  
Date: 6/1/2004 9:38:00 AM  From Authorid: 6867    Mercury, I ended up having to hide snacks on a shelf way up in my closet...Including drinks like canned coke. And I never let my son see where I got the snacks from. I also cleaned my cabinets out, throwing away any snacks that weren't healthy. I did leave fresh fruit, and baby carrots in the fridge to encourage healthy "grazing" throughout the day, hehe, that sounds funny. Hiding the snacks worked when my parents did it with my siblings and I...and it has worked with my son also. HUG-A-NURSE,  
Date: 6/1/2004 9:58:00 AM  From Authorid: 53427    My son is 7 yrs old, and I can totally identify with this post. My son developed Encopresis and just recently got off medication that he was on for 3 yrs. Encopresis is a type of chronic severe constipation. In my son's case, his bowels stretched out to the size of an orange. He for quite a while couldn't control them at all. It has been a LONG road to recovery. His main problem now is that he still won't eat regular food. He has about a dozen different things he'll eat and when I give him something else, he'll get so repulsed by it, sometimes he'll throw up. We just keep trying. He is improving now enough to where I feel pretty confident about sending him to regular school next time (I homeschooled him through kindergarten and first because of this). He is improving little by little. My advice to you would be try your best to fix this before it gets more serious like my sons case. The older they get without changing their food habits, the harder they are to change. Also the thing that Gia suggested did not work in our case. My son had no appetite for a very long time. And when we would say if you wont eat what we want you to, you won't get anything, he didn't care. His stomach was usually hurting so much from the constipation, he had no desire to eat anyway. I can remember mealtimes that took over an hour where he would pick and pick such small bites. He was only eating because I sat there and forced him to. Sorry for writing a book here, I just wanted to let you know about Encopresis. I truly hope your son never has to deal with that.  
Date: 6/1/2004 11:26:00 AM  From Authorid: 57079    These people have given you great advise... have you tried something like BeneFiber I think thats what its called but not sure it has no taste and you just mix it with any food and it shouldnt taste different I havent tried it myself but my mom says its good... Good Luck!  
Date: 6/1/2004 11:30:00 AM  From Authorid: 62675    I really wish I could give some helpful advice but I have been blesses with a human garbage disposal dressed as a 5 year old. He actually eats too much and scares my family when they watch him. (By the way he is not overweight at all he is actually below weight and I can count all his ribs. I don't want to get reprimanded by people who read this, about over feeding kids and making them weighty.)
Everyone elses advice sounded really good. I would definatly get a second opinion by a Dr. He could have a blockage or something that they can help remedy! For my son, if I don't like the answer or if the suggested solution that doesn't work, I go back and make them try something else or I go elsewhere. Good Luck!! -Sunni818
  
Date: 6/1/2004 1:01:00 PM  From Authorid: 17081    Tough love. Make him eat what you cook whether he likes it or not. If you give in to let him him eat just the stuff he likes, he'll see how far he can push you. Sit with him at the table until he finishes it.  
Date: 6/1/2004 1:34:00 PM  From Authorid: 19772    My sister had this same problem with her child. It wasn't so much as what he wouldn't eat, it was what he was eating. He loved Cheeses and dairy products so she tried to give him lots of those but they do cause constipation. Also he loved Fruit roll ups and Fruit wrinkles and those things really bound him up. Good luck to you. Hopefully you get some helpfull answers. ~Gabrielle~  
Date: 6/1/2004 1:40:00 PM  From Authorid: 13119    lilwolf! LMBO! You are hiliarious  
Date: 6/1/2004 2:58:00 PM  From Authorid: 35720    LMAO LILWOLF  
Date: 6/1/2004 6:54:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 49025    Omg - thank you so much for the advice. I'm very disappointed with his pediatrician. He basically yelled at me for not pushing him to eat more iron and fiber. I'm definitely trying to be consistant and make his food more fun. I think I'll make another call to his doctor tomorrow and make sure this isn't something more serious. Steven typically is a good eater. I also wonder if some of it hasn't been stress from my father-in-law living with us. He finally moved out about a week ago and things are improving all around. I really appreciate all the help! I don't know what I would do with out this site and the help of great people!!   
Date: 6/1/2004 8:51:00 PM  From Authorid: 6867    oooh, heeey, you didn't mention there was someone new living w/you. Kids get just as stressed out as we do. Hmmm, might be a temporary prob HUG-A-NURSE,  
Date: 6/7/2004 5:08:00 PM  From Authorid: 28363    My latest experience with 4 year olds showed them having a preference towards mac and cheese, broiled chicken, and chocolate milk. Ooh and lots of blue gatorade. I hope it turns out okay.  

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