Date: 5/24/2004 5:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 27046
Yeah, I would and have. I wouldn't even speak about the situation. Just print out the stuff you got off the jail website and throw it in an envelope on his desk. You could even mail it in, which would probably be better. That way she will probably think that someone who "knows" her, saw her working there and decided to tip off the store owner, instead of thinking it was one of you guys.  |
Date: 5/24/2004 5:44:00 PM
From Authorid: 47296
Most job applications now require you to list any convictions you may have had, especially in stores and other retail outlets. If the company you work for requires a person to admit that information, and this person didn't, then by all means, yes. If it is not a requirement, then it is between the person and the manager, and no one else.  |
Date: 5/24/2004 5:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 31531
For one thing I think I would ask the boss not too put my social secuity number on my time card for all to see. I never heard of this. My time card has just a number.If you are really sure about this lady yes I would.Why wasn't she checked out before she was hired? Just my thoughts .>>>HUGS>>>>>  |
Date: 5/24/2004 5:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 19685
Personally, I would keep quiet.. there is a 50/50 chance your work has done a background check on her and knows. And also, jail can change a lot of people. She has done her time, so you and your co-workers shouldn't be so quick to assume she's up to trouble. I've been in her shoes. Not that I've ever been a thief.. but I know what it's like to have change and then people just assume I'm gonna do something bad when I'm not the same person, when I've taken the consequences. Also, the workplace is the most common place for rumors aside from highschool. That's merely heresay and let's face it, in an office full of women, you're going to have that one woman that always likes to start rumors in that sort of way. So, like I said, I would keep to myself about it. But if you SEE anything going on then I would definately say something.  |
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Date: 5/24/2004 5:50:00 PM
From Authorid: 19685
Also, if this lady ISN'T just starting a rumor of sorts, isn't it possible that she is mistaken? Perhaps before you jump the gun, you should find this "rat" magazine and check it out for yourself. |
Date: 5/24/2004 5:52:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
They would not have hired her if they knew about this.  |
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Date: 5/24/2004 5:53:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
Shattered-- didn't you even read the whole post? i said I went online and looked it up, there are pictures of her and everything on a county jail website. |
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Date: 5/24/2004 5:55:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
Two spirit-- I believe the job application does ask about convictions of a crime, i'm pretty sure she didn't list anything there-- they hired her about an hour after she turned in her application, so I am guessing they assumed all was well. |
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Date: 5/24/2004 5:56:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
kasti-- I don't think I am going to be putting it on there anymore. They can look it up if they need it. lol |
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Date: 5/24/2004 5:56:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
Azairyia-- We 9meaning me and the other guys that know) have talked about mailing the list to the manager. IF we do anything, that will probably be it. |
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Date: 5/24/2004 6:00:00 PM
From Authorid: 31531
That is good DizzyMe because by law you don't have to give out that number.Think about all this really good and then do what you think is best about this lady>>>HuGS |
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Date: 5/24/2004 6:00:00 PM
From Authorid: 27046
I think that would be the safest way to go about it for all parties involved. I would be more apt not to wait for the others. Mail it out, have it show up and then act stupid about the whole thing. That way even a another co-worker with a guilty conscious can't spill the beans and state for sure who decided to do it and who actually send the letter in the first place. |
Date: 5/24/2004 6:00:00 PM
From Authorid: 1799
yeah, i'd tell on them, because it won't help the environment any if everyone is scared and worried. besides, you never know what might happen.. my rule: be cynical, and then apologize later if need be.  |
Date: 5/24/2004 6:01:00 PM
From Authorid: 62599
Well it all depends. You should definetly ask your boss if he/she knows. If he/she does, let it drop. If he/she does not, then show him the sight and let him/her take care of it.  |
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Date: 5/24/2004 6:06:00 PM
From Authorid: 47296
If the application requires it, then report it. I was dating someone several years back and got them a job working for a friend of mine. Unknown to me, this person had felony theft convictions from years past. They did not report them on their application, and after a background check was done, they were fired. It also ended our relation since they did not bother to tell me of their past problems, and lied on their application, which I got for them. |
Date: 5/24/2004 6:14:00 PM
From Authorid: 35160
i sure would!  |
Date: 5/24/2004 6:58:00 PM
From Authorid: 53052
i would ask your boss if she did a criminal record check of the new employee and if she says not suggest that it might be a good idea and that you feel uncomfy with personal info like your SIN/SSC number in the open on your time card  |
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Date: 5/24/2004 6:59:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
They don't do criminal background checks there. They are very trusting people. |
Date: 5/24/2004 7:36:00 PM
From Authorid: 62367
I just saw that your employer does not do background checks. Maybe you should go as a group, backed up by the website and tell your boss your concerns. Your employer may know the lady's background and is giving her a break. Just be careful and watch. She may have learned her lesson. I hope for your sake that she has.  |
Date: 5/24/2004 7:50:00 PM
From Authorid: 20956
i dont know if america is different to australia, but here are required to fill in a sort of criminal record section on a form if we are going to new position. it basically asks if you a)have a criminal record and b)if so, the details. If you do have this system then you'd think that your employer would already be aware of this. if you dont that perhaps you should bring it to their attention BUT ONLY if you personally think that her past is going to affect you or your cooworkers in anyway. good luck   |
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Date: 5/24/2004 8:05:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
She has a ten year history of this, I don't think she has learned her lesson, especially since her last booking was May 11. |
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Date: 5/24/2004 8:06:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
As far as her application, I will pretty much guarantee she didn't fill out that portion of it, mainly because if she did there is not a chance they would have hired her. |
Date: 5/24/2004 8:19:00 PM
From Authorid: 7341
Dang...that's a sucky situation. Your place of employment didn't really do their job investigating her background..did they! I think though...if I felt threatened....I would definitely let my supervisor know about the knowledge that I had...looking out for number one is most important!!!!  |
Date: 5/24/2004 8:26:00 PM
From Authorid: 42945
maybe the management did check up on her and decided to give her a chance....but you do have to consider yourselves... and I sure as heck wouldnt be putting my number on the card for all and sundry to see and do whatever they want, I'd have a talk with the person who hired her on the quiet about my fears....  |
Date: 5/24/2004 8:36:00 PM
From Authorid: 13283
Why on earth are your social security numbers on your time card ? With so much identity theft going on , companies need to start designating numbers or start using something besides S. S. # s. If she lied on her application then she does need to be reported . Once a criminal always a criminal . I go bad on health insurance companies and other places that want to leave your social security number in public view . Idiots . Razzy aka  |
Date: 5/24/2004 8:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 57232
man I'm going to sound like one of the South Park gang...'And that's what I call a sticky situation.' Well you are going to hate my answer...I don't know. It's not exactly the same as your situation but a week before spring break when I was at school they finally got cable modem access in my area. Well the cable guy came out to hook us to the internet and while there my boyfriend mentioned that he hasn't got cable in his room for quite a while but has been to lazy to call. Well the cable guy checked it out and the reason why was because the apt next to us was stealing cable from us! Well we asked him what is he going to do about it and he said that WE have to call the police. Well during the same visit he had mentioned that apt's 4 and 6 (I'm in 5 and btw ha ha if you are a bad person trying to figure out where I live I used ficticious numbers for where I live at college) have access through the crawlspace area to our apt. Well these neighbors next door are (well were, they moved out in a month) GHETTO, I mean really ghetto and they had an 8 year old son, perfect little age to get up in that crawlspace and go unlock the door for looting. So lets say I am you and that crawlspace is my SSN...I decided to let it go. I hated to do it, but I was so afraid of the retaliation. Maybe you can set her up somehow? That way no fingers will be pointed in your direction.  |
Date: 5/24/2004 8:56:00 PM
From Authorid: 5252
I for one would tell my main boss, I am a supervisor where I work, and if I expect 100% honesty and loyalty from any and all of my workers, than i can't let one person get away with something when i know they have in the past. yet i also would not bring this up unless you or one of the other co-workers start to see stuff around the store gone, or know that she is up to no good. some people do change, give her the benefit of the doubt....  |
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Date: 5/24/2004 8:57:00 PM
From Authorid: 5252
I was also going to suggesst, that if yall feel she is a big enough threat, i would definately have my s.s. number removed from my time card, atleast if it is where she can get her hands on it. |
Date: 5/24/2004 9:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
Hmmm...not a good situation. I'm surprised she was hired with a rap-sheet that long. Maybe the manager didn't do an accurate background check on her. Strange... I guess I would take the manager aside and just ask him what type of background checks he does on new hires. Be general at first and if he acts like he isn't cautious or concerned...I'd casually ask if he did a check on this woman. Even though the picture on the website looks like her, you never know...it could be someone else. Who knows?? She could even have an identical twin. Regardless, I think your concerns are justified and I think someone should speak to the manager than hired her.  |
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Date: 5/24/2004 9:06:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
Forgot to mention that I see your point about being concerned for your information. If she truly is this criminal person, she could be using someone else's indentity to get jobs so she's pass background checks. It happens. |
Date: 5/24/2004 10:27:00 PM
From Authorid: 42568
if it were my stuff, yeah... otherwise it's not my business  |
Date: 5/24/2004 10:29:00 PM
From Authorid: 12341
It would bug me and I most likely do what Az suggested.  |
Date: 5/24/2004 10:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 53909
Yes I would say something about it. If there are other co-workers that aren't feeling comfortable around another employee, I think that they have the right to being it up.  |
Date: 5/24/2004 11:27:00 PM
From Authorid: 28193
Yes, I would tell. Be a crime buster, Dizzy Me. LOL.  |
Date: 5/24/2004 11:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 36901
I think Azairyia's advice is the best way to go. The manager needs to know for sure.  |
Date: 5/25/2004 6:04:00 AM
From Authorid: 19869
tell tell tell... look after yourself and ur friends.. u'd feel rather bad if u or ur other co-workers got screwed over because of her when u knew and could have had something done about it.. let ur manager know.. if ur uncomfortable doing it in person then write it anonymously on a peice of paper and leave it for ur manager! and to answer the post title, depends who they were, if i trusted them, and what they'd done. if they only stole petty stuff then no, unless i didnt like them... or if its anything like the person u described then yes no matter how much i liked them!  |
Date: 5/25/2004 6:28:00 AM
From Authorid: 3835
I would mail it to where you work attention of the manager. I would also have someone else write it out, as the manager must know everyone's handwriting from there, right?? Azairyia gave a great idea about mailing it in. But I would not just let it go without something being said, especially with your SS# so available.  |
Date: 5/25/2004 6:40:00 AM
From Authorid: 62675
TELL and QUICKLY!!! She probably lied on her application which they can fire her for!! -Sunni818  |
Date: 5/25/2004 7:12:00 AM
From Authorid: 19220
I would tell my manager. Not only could she hurt the store and other employees but the customers as well.  |
Date: 5/25/2004 10:38:00 AM
From Authorid: 54968
I like Midnightly's idea.  |
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Date: 5/25/2004 12:50:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 9130
Well, I just called and talked to my manager about this. The interesting thing is that someone that works next door already mentioned that someone that worked at the store was on work release. And my manager thought it was the other new girl! She even questioned her about it but didn't mention a thing to the one that was the actual criminal. She wants me to print of the list of crimes and bring it to her. She said the owner is the one that hired her and he's going to be the one to deal with it all. She was as shocked as I was about the whole thing. |
Date: 5/25/2004 1:27:00 PM
From Authorid: 47218
b monkey, you let it go??!!!! You are now going to pay for free cable for these people because you're afraid? Would they even know that it was you who called the police on them , since it could have been the cable company? You should complain to your apartment manager, or just have the cable to your apartment shut off at the least!  |
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Date: 5/25/2004 1:29:00 PM
From Authorid: 47218
and,DM, I think you have the obligation to let your boss know, somehow...anonymously if need be. |
