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Should people that hate our way of life be ejected? *Ad*

  Author:  46530  Category:(Debate) Created:(4/26/2004 5:01:00 AM)
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There are people in our society that disagree with the way we live.

This is not a new phenomenon, it has happened for centuries, but in the past those people who incited violence and upheaval were brought to trial, or simply punished.

Now we have religious leaders who spout off their mouths, saying that the west should not exist and that soldiers from the west should be killed, or that another attrocity like 9/11 should take place, just to teach us a lesson.

These people are protected by the laws of the UK from extradition because their views are such that they would face torture or death in their own country. Our own laws mean that the police spend thousands of pounds every Friday making sure that these people are not attacked, admittedly by racist thugs, though all the same still wasting tax payers money.

These people can stay in our country at their leisure, able to use the NHS and other services simply because they are who they are, foreigners with beliefs so drastic that they claimed assylum.

Should we harbour these people who would incite terrorism of their own kind, and whom if they had the chance would push more people into conflicts to blow themselves up, or even better some UK or US troops?

The French have recenlty ejected two such people. One who had said that the 9/11 attacks were a good thing to have happened (He was shipped out within two days, back to Afghanistan), and another who said that women should be allowed to be beaten if they have extra-marrital affairs (again shipped out, this time to Algeria). If France can do this, why don't we?

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Date: 4/26/2004 6:31:00 AM  From Authorid: 46527    You live in a country, you accept its ways. It would be a very difficult decision to make to eject a person just because of the way they thought, let's face it, we all have thoughts that are not exactly politically correct now and again but as long as we don't voice them then they don't bother anyone. Maybe we should think of only ejecting those who are more vociferous and likely to cause major problems with their thoughts on our ways of life.  
Date: 4/26/2004 6:36:00 AM  From Authorid: 2030    Free speach is one thing, advocating murder and violence is quite another. Deport them, break up their organizations, outlaw their publications. No one should have the right to incite violence and encourage terrorism.  
Date: 4/26/2004 6:41:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 46530    I didnt mean eject the whole population LSR. Just the ones who are vocally proscribing violence in any form. We do have a law against incitement of violence, but are not enforcing it because of the fact that they may be killed when they get deported.  
Date: 4/26/2004 7:39:00 AM  From Authorid: 48809    I agree that anyone who stirs up trouble for others or who would cause harm to anyone else or any country , should automatically be sent back to their own place of birth! These people are "rabble rousers" who just want to cause trouble wherever they go. They take advantage of the rights that they have been given in the country where they now live. I do not see why any country needs people like this! Can anyone imagine any of us getting away with this kind of behavior in their country?  
Date: 4/26/2004 8:07:00 AM  From Authorid: 13119    I agree with AD and BCAR, get rid of the dissidents and tough luck on them for whatever happens to them when they return to their country of birth. Maybe if they started doing this then people would begin reacting in an appropriate manner.  
Date: 4/26/2004 10:51:00 AM  From Authorid: 19613    what about people who were born in western countries but still hold the same views? you can hardly deport them. if someone is a citizen, they should be given equal rights. send them to prison, but do not deport them.  
Date: 4/26/2004 10:53:00 AM  From Authorid: 24673    If it were only possible to send them all to the sun! Their beliefs and ideas cannot be changed because they are taught from childhood on, so--on to the sun with them!  
Date: 4/26/2004 9:43:00 PM  From Authorid: 62085    Then you would have to ship out the president, and alot of govt. They are the true traitors & perpetrators of 9-11 and other atrocities.  
Date: 4/26/2004 11:34:00 PM  From Authorid: 59385    send the president with them and the rest who are at fault for 9/11.If they icite volence get rid of them go back to countryof birth and be put to death for there actions  
Date: 4/27/2004 10:58:00 AM  From Authorid: 62060    I live in the UK, and I can only think of one thing - why are we not deporting them? Take that asslyum seeker, with ADMITTED ties to Al Queada, who is allegedly mentally ill. Insted of deporting him, or locking him up, we place him under house arrest at the cost of thousands of tax payer's money. Or the muslim cleric who routinely preaches anti-west. The list goes on.  
Date: 4/27/2004 11:42:00 AM  From Authorid: 58681    It always surprises me that people who are not citizens of a country would want to stay in a country whose culture they hate. However, for citizens it is their right to express negative opinions about their government and the way they behave if they feel that way. It is often through taking such stands that social progress is made in a real democracy. Anyone who comes to a country with evil intent should be deported, but it's proving this intent that is the problem. By the time it is proved, it's often too late. GA
Date: 4/29/2004 11:28:00 PM  From Authorid: 36079    The thing is that being in the US we have many cultures who sometimes believe many drastic things. Lets take into example a little island called puert rico that is claimed by the US. Well thier handlings are pretty different to ours, like most of em would probably agree with what the second person one your post said. Becouse we have so many varying views on everything someone could say that 911 was a good thing and be totally over looked. For the US it would be no, becouse our way of life is made up by people past or present. Although I do not care for the degrading patriotism of new comers, I think they should show our traditions and ways respect even if they don't believe in them.  
Date: 5/12/2004 8:53:00 AM  From Authorid: 15228    Actually, according to the articles I read on this subject they were kicked out (5 Imans in all this year) for calling for a jihad against American interests in France (got that from the New York times via Euro-pundit). France has a serious problem with Muslims, especially in the slums where the rape of young girls is quiet common (also read about this common problem on Europpundit/iNoPasaran) . As one supporter said, it is his right to deal with his cheating woman..not with a slap, but with a bullet. If these people were kicked out for their support of 9-11 alone..half of France (probably more) would be empty...So, I would say if someone were not a citizen of a country and they were calling for others to commit violence, than it is within that countries right to kick that person out.  

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