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The Quest for Truth, or something that makes sense...Brenda

  Author:  12341  Category:(Philosophy) Created:(4/15/2004 11:00:00 PM)
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As I grew older, I began to question my beliefs. I had learned about many other religions (not in great detail, but I had a fair idea of what they were all about) and started to wonder why I believed the things I did. My head was full of all these odd notions that had accumulated over the years and didn't quite seem to match up to the real world. I reviewed what I knew of the world - geology, biology, evolution, cosmology etc. and realised that religion didn't explain things anywhere near as well as science. It was all too vague and fuzzy and implausible. The inconsistencies and contradictions in the Bible made me doubt it, if I had a physics book that was as full of glaring holes as the Bible is, I would have thrown it out. I couldn't help but wonder why, if there was a benevolent God looking after us all, did so many people suffer and die all around the world - He didn't seem to be doing His job very well. (The religious answer was that He was doing his job, but He was doing it in a Mysterious Way, incomprehensible to mere mortals, scoring an 8.5 on the Sagan Baloney Detector.)

I also became quite suspicious of organised religion in general. I would often hear preachers asking people to believe things that I knew were simply not true. I noticed that many people appeared to believe because they thought it was expected of them (If you ever watch TV Evangelist shows, you'll see this happen. Nobody ever jumps up and says "Hang on! That doesn't make any sense at all!" - everyone sits there, nodding and Amen-ing at everything the preacher has to say. Don't talk while the vicar is speaking, don't question, just listen and accept it. Peer pressure is a wonderful thing). I noticed the way that religions discouraged people from thinking too deeply about them, or from asking tricky questions. I noticed that Christians were not the only people who deeply and sincerely believed in a deity - these conflicting religions could not all be correct, so why should we believe one and not the other? All the religions claimed a monopoly on Truth, Love, Happiness, Justice, Morality. It slowly dawned on me that maybe they were all wrong...

I began to realise that the world (and indeed the universe) in which I lived was entirely consistent with one that has no God, no Creator, no Guiding Intelligence. There was no valid reason to believe that any sort of a God existed. God became just another supernatural critter that people seriously believed in despite the lack of evidence, like Bigfoot, alien-abductor and lake monsters. I don't necessarily think that all religious people are deluded, irrational nuts (although a minority in the world are creating havoc and I just keep thinking they're mistaken, and may very well hold perfectly rational and coherent reasons for their beliefs.

I saw that many people had different reasons for believing in Gods, including (somewhat over-simplified):

They had simply been indoctrinated at an early age, and the beliefs became so much a part of their life that the idea of questioning or doubting simply never occurred to them. They believe it because they have just always known it to be true. (As mentioned above, people usually end up with whatever the religion of their family happens to be.) They feel that we must be here for a purpose. The universe and this beautiful Earth cannot all be a pointless accident, and God is the best explanation. We are all here for a reason, but only God knows exactly what that reason is and we'll just have to trust him. A sense of justice. It's not fair for evil people to commit all sorts of terrible acts and simply escape punishment by dying. The idea of heaven/hell ensures that good people are rewarded and bad people are suitable punished. A deep objection to being merely "animals". Many creationists, for instance, are offended at the idea that humans simply evolved along with all other animals. God made us separate and special, and we have a "soul" but the animals do not (biological snobbery?). Comfort. Many people find it very comforting to believe that a loving God is always watching over them and caring for them, and when anything good or bad happens to them, this is all part of his Plan for their life. Also, religion is obviously very comforting when faced with the death of a loved one. It's much easier and more reassuring to believe that Grandma is free from pain now, up in Heaven with Jesus where she's waiting for us to join her for eternity, than to think that she has simply ceased to exist and the universe will have forgotten her in a couple of generations. Afterlife. It seems almost incomprehensible to believe that when your body dies, your existence ends. Sensation and awareness are so much a part of our existence that it is extremely difficult to imagine no longer being able to experience anything. Try to imagine that, for example, a big meteor crashes into your house and instantly kills you at the end of this paragraph. We just cannot imagine not existing or abruptly ceasing to be aware and conscious, and so it is quite natural to think that something will continue to exist after the death of our brain. It's a short step from there to accepting the idea of an immortal soul, and heaven or reincarnation or some other form of afterlife.

So, I questioned my beliefs and they didn't stand up to much scrutiny. I abandoned religion as it had nothing to offer me (it had never really played a big part in my life anyway) and set off down the Road Of Truth.

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Date: 4/15/2004 11:20:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 12341    Only my own musings, no debates, simply similar thoughts and random at that. I'm just seeking some thoughts here, no major debates, simple imput and thoughts that come.  
Date: 4/15/2004 11:30:00 PM  From Authorid: 42568    "Man posits himself as the standard. A race cannot do otherwise than thus acquiensce in itself." (Either Schopenhaur or Nietzsche, can't remember) ...I know this isn't in debate so message me if you're interested in talking. I have a lot to say.  
Date: 4/15/2004 11:42:00 PM  From Authorid: 36704    Thanks for sharing, it was an interesting read. I don't have the answers and I don't claim to, I'm still searching, but I think that the search for the "truth" is an individual path that each must undertake and at the end of the road find the beliefs that they are most comfortable with. I also think it's important to go in with an open mind and look at all sides rather than just looking to support the one side you want to be right whether it's the religious side or not.  
Date: 4/16/2004 4:24:00 AM  From Authorid: 42945    Brenda, I think this is an excellent post hun, such an interesting read and if we were all to be quite truthful, a lot of us on here would admit to doubting at one time or another....I was educated in Religion at a very early age and I will admit that as I grew older I began to question more and more about it, things didn't make sense, when our brains died, so did our bodies and that sort of concept starting creeping in....but I for one on the other hand have felt some great moments when in prayer, and it has helped me a lot of times...I think what I'm trying to say, is, that even though I have lots of doubts, there is something there in me that makes me believe, whether or not I was sort of brain washed as a child because thats when it all started, its just there, and gives me such a feeling of peace and calm when I need it the most....hugs Sis....  
Date: 4/16/2004 8:39:00 AM  From Authorid: 31255    I think all paths lead to the same place. There is a bit of truth in all of them. If God presented us a book with all the answers there would be no point to be in here. And if God gave us a book written by humans and supposedly inspired by him... it would only be human to have the imperfections and change it for whatever humanly reasons that have been found fit to change it. Thus, my faith is not merely based on the bible, but more of the universal truths found in many religions and my personal relationship with the higher spirit. At least that's where my beliefs are at this point in my life. Interesting read   
Date: 4/16/2004 3:16:00 PM  From Authorid: 53836    I believe in God. I don't base it on religion, but connections I've made in my life that have come about through wisdom. Your post was food for thought, but I've seen too many miracles and have been a vessel myself, therefore I cannot deny my Creator. I am always interested in learning more and broadening my understandings to so many questions and doubts...but my doubts aren't so much about there not being a God and more in myself.  
Date: 4/16/2004 11:34:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 12341    Each of you, thanks for your answers. Trying times I am living in and the answers are so far from being clear. Here I am, and I still have no reason why.  
Date: 4/17/2004 5:11:00 PM  From Authorid: 37900    Brenda, I appreciate your honesty. I have a few thoughts for your consideration. I enjoy science, so I think I have an understanding of your position on science vs. religion's interpretation of the Bible. Is it possible that you accepted science and dismissed religion because one sounded more plausible than the other? Do you lean toward a position based on how reasonable it sounds? If so, doesn't that make your understanding the final judge on what is truth? I suggest you may have mistaken what the Bible says for what people think it says. [The difference is, in some cases, profound.] Finally, my primary reasons for believing in God are answered prayers: hundreds of them. Specific requests over a period of years that, IMO, cannot be explained by coincidence. The other reasons you've given furnish secondary support.  
Date: 4/18/2004 12:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 60940    Truth eh? There is no truth. Religion has become very dogmatic. Its not that people don't believ in god, its all the restictive doctrines which comes with it. This may explain why spiritualism, the fastest growing belief system is extremely popular. Its religion without all the fiddly bits
Date: 4/23/2004 9:13:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 12341    Alfrowl, (is it i or l), I'm sorry, my upclose eyesight is horrible. I gave up religion, not what makes sense to me. Or gives meaning to life.  
Date: 4/23/2004 11:50:00 PM  From Authorid: 49539    i think this is exactly what everyone needs. a little taste of reality. i tip my hat to you, brenda.  
Date: 4/25/2004 7:57:00 PM  From Authorid: 39770    I've been doing my own questioning too, so I'm right along with you. On my search for the truth, I've found satanism to match my beliefs, but it's not really a religion at all, just a system of beliefs. It all makes sense to me too, there is no physical god or satan, no heaven or hell, and when you die you are reincarnated into another life. But satanism suits me, and may not suit you. I do agree with your reasons people believe in god, and I do agree that organized religion in itself is wrong. There's nothing left up to the individual to interpret, and usually you do grow up believing in god because you were taught he was always there at an early age. I too was taught this, but I was proven otherwise recently, which made me question. It is always good to question, otherwise you may never learn.  
Date: 1/9/2005 10:12:00 AM  From Authorid: 48809    Brenda,I don't know how I managed to miss this great post, but I did. You have expressed yourself well and have presented much to be thought about here. I agree that there are many mistakes in the Bible too ,and I believe they should be dealt with and corrected instead of being swept under the rug, and promoting more and more misunderstanding for those who are truly seeking truth. Many have been born into their present religion and were too young to make their own choice....never questioning the beliefs of their parents or their ministers! I believe we should choose what sits well with our own soul and not to allow someone else to make our decisions for us! There are those who are fearful of leaving long held beliefs , because they have been taught that if they do not believe certain religious doctrine that they will go to the place they call hell. What a monstrous lie this is! I have great respect for people who are advanced enough spiritually to think for themselves... I see you are one of these people Brenda .  
Date: 1/25/2005 8:49:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 12341    Posey, I keep my heart and mind open. When I say I abandoned "religion", it was the "faith" that I had committed myself to. Being Catholic, and having more and more questions, that led me to continue my spiritual search more on my own as I became more questioning with the Church and what brought more "faith" in a personal road to a more spiritual meaning than I ever found before.  

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