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Date: 4/4/2004 10:18:00 PM
From Authorid: 3688
Oh goodness I can't believe this happened, well actually I kind of can, unfortunately. Thank god you knew what to tell these idiots to look for  |
Date: 4/4/2004 10:23:00 PM
From Authorid: 16845
awww... thoughts and prayers to her  |
Date: 4/4/2004 10:26:00 PM
From Authorid: 14175
I'm a nurse as well I definately agree with everything you said. If things don't seem right keep asking questions until you are satisfied that you or your loved one is getting the proper treatment. I hope your mum has a speedy recovery.  |
Date: 4/4/2004 10:27:00 PM
From Authorid: 21435
Sometimes I wonder. I was never bashful about asking questions..Probably because I knew so little and had so many..Glad that you got 'em straight, Brenda. I'll surely say a prayer for your mother. Take care of you, my friend...  |
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Date: 4/4/2004 10:38:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 12341
I'm still in some kind of shock. I have another story about something that happened on the way home. Very strange, and I will write about it, after I think more about it. But I am somewhere in limbo. I can't believe they were treating Mom for a non existant heart condition. I admit that whith my job and my grandchildren, I don't look after her as much as I should, But I WILL NEVER place her in anyone's care again without making sure that if a diagnosis is not found, then run some more tests. This one seemed so easy. When I asked the Doc what tests had been done besides EKG and cardiolytes, he said none! No CT of the pulmonary system, nothing else, they were giving her water pills and nitro tabs. I'm reeling, and I'm very angry, and yet I'm so relieved she is at least being treated for what is really wrong. My Mom, when I left her, was so tiny, and so scared, and I'm still scared, leaving her there. I wanted to bring her here, to a bigger and better hospital. I'm not ready to let her go yet! See, what I'm saying, this should not have happened!  |
Date: 4/4/2004 10:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 42568
That really ticks me off. I used to go to a psychologist and I was actually the one that rightly diagnosed myself. I agree... I think if they see someone they love suffering or just have a gut feeling they are, they should READ and be their own/someone else's doctor instead of relying on those with degrees. I'll keep her in my thoughts Brenda, as before. I hope she'll be okay.  |
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Date: 4/4/2004 10:55:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 12341
To each of you, I'm still reeling, still remembering the look on that ER Doc's face. My Mom might not have made it after being sent home again. I'm thankful she is finally getting the correct medication to help her recovery, but what if???? |
Date: 4/4/2004 10:55:00 PM
From Authorid: 53427
I have diagnosed my family before. With both my husband and my son, I researched their symptoms online. With my husband, the doctors doubted my theory at first. But eventually after a bunch of tests, they diagnosed him with what I had believed all along. You have to watch these doctors. They don't always know best. And you're right, if you're gut instinct is saying that they need a certain test, insist on it. I'm glad your mom had you to watch out for her. And I really hope she'll be ok  |
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Date: 4/4/2004 11:07:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 12341
I firmly believe the family KNOWS exactly by the feelings they have from knowing the condition and watching what the family member is going through. I have many times, seen Docs "shake their heads" after a patient dies, and wonder why they "missed that". I'm reeling, honestly! I have to search and think about this, I've always known that being in the medical profession, we are human, but it is gut wrenching when something so crystal clear escapes a physician and I have to overstep, and DEMAND more, and sometimes I get less recognition just because some Doc's think we are so unqualified. Whether we are in the medical field or not. My sister and I stood our ground and demanded more on the grounds that we would pay for additional tests, how disgusting are HMO'S. I have seen the questionare's both physition and patientsa are asked to answer. Its almost a double play, but these physicians are sometimes repremanded by how many tests they order and how much their patients cost the system. I'm going to have to take a step back, and do some more personal digging. |
Date: 4/4/2004 11:10:00 PM
From Authorid: 36704
I'm sorry to hear about your mom and day, I hope everything turns out ok  |
Date: 4/4/2004 11:19:00 PM
From Authorid: 12581
Thank goodness they caught it. Personally, I always felt alot of guilt over not going to my Gran'mama's Drs & screaming at them to figure it out. She had open heart surgery...but never could recover, kept getting sicker n sicker, dehydrated, progressive nausea & vomiting (real bad in a diabetic), once I went over & she had pitting edema in her legs...I was in school to be a Paramedic & knew in my heart somthing more serious was going on. Her Dr's kept switching the meds, she had an internist & a cardiologist...eight months after her surgery, she died from staff infection..she went to the Dr's the week before & they said she was improving, she went to the ER & was dead less than nine hours later, everything in her body had just shut down. I always felt truly angry at her Drs, I was a kid in college training for emergency medicine but I identified that her baseline symptoms stayed the same & that maybe it was somthing more than her meds, I cannot believe TWO Dr's missed such a common post-op complication. I truly believe, they killed her with negligence. Not to surprising now, I don't really like or trust most Dr's, kinda messed up my plans of working in medicine  Again, I am really glad ya'll found a solution...always follow your gut. Thanks for sharing & Take Care!  |
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Date: 4/4/2004 11:58:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 12341
So often we are taught to never question Doctors, I was and I was taught to uphold them, to stand by their diagnosis, and what they believed to be the best course of treatment for a patient. But tonight, I'm so angry, so filled with disgust. I never told anyone there that I waas a nurse and they treated me and my family so badly until they came back with the final results. I know the doc had to have a clue, otherwise I wouldn't have had a clue what to ask for or suggest, but I'm so disappointed tonight in the medical field. I truly am. I've lost more than I can explain. |
Date: 4/5/2004 12:34:00 AM
From Authorid: 42945
well Sis, I'm so glad that you were there to tell them what they should have already known....makes me wonder sometimes about how some of the docs manage to pass their exams....your poor little mother, as if being scared wasnt enough for her in the first place....give her my regards hun and tell her I'm thinking of her....hugs Sis....  |
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Date: 4/5/2004 12:52:00 AM
From Authorid: 12581
The Dr at the ER, was actually a good guy, he didn't beat around the bush, yet he seemed very feeling when he was giving us the news & asking us if we wanted any heroic efforts, he pretty much told us that her body was shutting down & her survival was grim, that it would take a miracle for her to survive. My Papa & I agreed to let her go peacefully. The only harsh thing was that they had intubated her before we could get to the hospital, when she came out of the drugs, she began thrashing & they gave her another dose to calm her down, she never regained consciousness. When she passed, the nurses were just lovely though, even called the medical examiner to ask permission to take out the intubation tube so they could put her falsies in again cause my Papa had asked them when they would, that my Gran'mama had always had this thing about having her false teeth in at all times (she'd lost them when she was young, had to go a year at 19 without any teeth at all) I guess what I'm saying with this babbling is that, although I do have an issue with most Dr's, there are alot of good, compassionate Dr's out there...they seem to just be few & far between. But I truly believe that when a family members life is as stake, you have the right to question their actions, Dr's are human, they are going to make mistakes, we need to be as diligent as possible to catch these mistakes so it doesn't cost us the life of our loved one. Thanks for listening & Take Care! |
Date: 4/5/2004 3:51:00 AM
From Authorid: 54968
Aww I'll be thinking of her. *hugs*  |
Date: 4/5/2004 6:39:00 AM
From Authorid: 13432
Good thing your Mom has such a great and smart daughter!! Just think what might have happened if you never mentioned anything?? My thoughts are with you and your mom... Take care of her and yourself and try to have a great rest of your day!!  |
Date: 4/5/2004 11:10:00 AM
From Authorid: 27046
Geeze, Bren, what a horrible thing to have happen! Thankfully you were there and able to point out some of the things that they were overlooking and have her treated for the right thing. If you need a shoulder, you know what to dial hon. Love ya....  |
Date: 4/5/2004 5:37:00 PM
From Authorid: 62367
I don't know what to say except, thank God, you went with your mother and stood your ground. I know stupid mistakes happen, but this sounds like a real boner. I would not go back to that hospital again if you have a choice.  |
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Date: 4/5/2004 9:22:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 12341
Thanks to each of you. I just got off the phone with my Dad, he said is better today and actually felt hungry. I still can't believe they were giving her a water pill when she was so dehydrated. Jen, I promise to call sooN. I've been so tired, I sleep after work here and there, and drive out there when I can, you know my schedule. It sucks. And with the kids, makes it harder. The girls can only take off so much before they get in trouble at work. Zema, thanks for the postcard! Getting that today was great, the kids loved it and Christina especially. I wish I could be there! I'm hoping Mom gets better soon so I can go visit my daughter. I miss her and the ocean. I can't leave right now though. Akua, that touched home. I was taught in nursing school, (back in the olden days) that Docs were not to be questioned. I will tell anyone, follow your gut feeling, sometimes family members trust too much. We all can. I remember when my first husband died, they kept him basically drugged so much because of being intubated and yet his death struggle is something I'm going to live with for as long as I live. He wasn't ready to die, and he wasn't old enough. He died from pneumonia. I also had a very small baby brother and sister die from complications of the same thing. It scares me silly. Neglect is too often the leading cause. Not diagnosing soon enough. And Akua, the last surgery my Mom had at this hospital, she also developed a staph infection and almost didn't make it through that. My dad has promised me her will bring her to our emergency rooms here in the future, if she needs something. But the time and distance is a factor. Dad keeps saying "thank you" and I don't feel right and yet I still can't believe they did no chest x-ray or CT scan until I asked for one. They were actually in the process of discharging her when I asked for a CT to make sure. Thanks Snookums, Base, Mystical Me, and Peridot Cat, just for being answering. And Bethann, my USM child, you are just like me! I'm still ticked off! Thanks sweetie for always being there for me! Kronk, thanks again for just being here. |
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Date: 4/5/2004 9:27:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 12341
Jen, I promise to call soon! I miss you! Thanks for replying. When I do call or you call, we have LOTS to talk about! I promise to call soon! Or you call me! |
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