Date: 3/25/2004 3:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 10754
Atkins diet has been around for quite some time. As for the studies, I know people who have lost weight for up to 19 months on the Atkins, until they had reached their target weight. Atkins is about cutting out refined starches and sugars, which is what America's gotten fat off of anyway. You may consider it a fad, but until you become a renowned nutrionist or have tried and stuck with it yourself, you can't argue with the success people have had, the lowered cholesterol levels, and the solid facts concerning nutrition and America's stance on it.  |
Date: 3/25/2004 3:19:00 PM
From Authorid: 53909
I've went on the Atkins diet for a couple weeks a while back and I've lost probably about 10 lbs but I stopped that diet because I couldn't stand not being able to eat some foods..lol.  |
Date: 3/25/2004 3:22:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15675
The Jay I remember hearing something on the cholestrol levels and they said a year later they were the same as anyone elses on a diet. Yes its been around for years but not popular and cutting off those things u mentioned come down to calories. Its like atkins is saying 'cut these calorie things out and you'll loose weight' which nutritionist and people have been saying for years!  |
Date: 3/25/2004 3:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 17014
Atkins seems like a sure thing- BUT with all the saturated fats and everything that you're still taking in, you're clogging your arteries faster than you were before by only eating these foods- e.g.: red meat, bacon, cheese. 2 years from now it will probably be some sort of injection you would go pay a ridiculous price for through a prescription just like some of the pills are now. Ugh, I give up! lol  |
Date: 3/25/2004 3:29:00 PM
From Authorid: 62100
I really don't know..I have never tried it so I can't say what I believe. I have some friends who started it and stopped it, but I have also heard things about health problems stemming from it. Bottom line, I truly believe that although it may work..right now it's just a fad until the next "miracle diet" comes along. I don't think there's really any miracle to dieting..you just have to eat right and exercise..which admittedly alot of us don't. Then to be fair, there are those who have problems internally which bar them from having much success at losing weight without a little help..as for me, I am going to just start eating right again, drinking more water, and exercising more..  |
Date: 3/25/2004 3:31:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15675
Xylanthia your right there is no miracle diet or pill (thats what a lot of Americans wish LOL!) It takes exercise and a diet that is reduced in calories (face it you have to reduce the amount of food you eat to loose weight lol people just dont like that idea  ) yet everyone wants it quick fast and easy |
Date: 3/25/2004 3:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 3263
It might be a 'fad', but I'm doing it anyway. I've been on it for 2 1/2 weeks, and by end of week 2 I'd lost 17 lbs. The reason I'm doing it is instant gratification. It would've taken me months to lose that much if I was doing Weight Watchers.  |
Date: 3/25/2004 3:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 62367
Atkins is the fad diet of choice this year. I am old enought that I remember when it first came out. Diets are cyclical. They always come back sometime. I am sure it works in the short term, most diets do. Long term weight loss, weight loss for obesity is something else. It you have a lot of weight to loose, a balanced diet where calories are cut everywhere and there is increased exercise is the only way. If you diet too much, this will affect your metabolism. Each time you try to lose weight it will get harder because your body becomes more efficient with spending its energy.  |
Date: 3/25/2004 3:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 35720
You just gain it back, it happened to all the people I know who tried it.  |
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Date: 3/25/2004 3:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 10754
Again, the aim of the Atkins diet isn't cutting calories, it's cutting starches and sugars, it makes little mention of cutting calories. Just because one cuts starches from their diet doesn't neccesarily mean they automatically cut calories taken per day, you just assumed so. Kaja, have you been on the Atkins diet before? Have you adequately studied ( as in, a nutrition class ) nutrition? So far, your argument here is based on the ASSUMPTION that calories are automatically cut on the Atkins diet, therefore equating this assumption to be that which " nutritionist and people have been saying for years " in an effort to discredit the Atkins method. Cutting calories only goes so far before the metabolism of the body adapts itself to the lower intake. Yes, exercise plays a vital ( need ) part, but there are also other factors that can come into play, one being what we take it ( protein/carbs/fats ). I've been on Atkins, I ate lean meats ( no saturated fat ), and cut out ALL starches and processed sugars. I still got my daily intake of carbs from lettuce and other green vegetables, and my daily sugar intake from fruits. I had more energy, wasn't as tired, and I was eating VERY healthy. To make a proper judgement, not only must you have experienced it yourself and/or studied up on nutrition, but also look at ALL sides of the equation before you refute it. |
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Date: 3/25/2004 3:50:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15675
Rita thats what I was gonna say to Dark Crow. Most of it is water weight, it may be 17lbs right now or whatever but in a few months it wont stay off |
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Date: 3/25/2004 3:53:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15675
The Jay no I havent taken classes but I have read a lot on it and seen a lot of news programs and such on it and I keep seeing people saying how successful it is so thats why I made this debate . If you cut ANYTHING out of your diet it most likely has calories in it thats what Im saying. Yes the body does adapt thats why people have to lower their caloric needs (your metabolic rate only lets you intake and burn so much a day) but if someone stays on atkins there is no way their going to keep the weight off I just really have doubts on it. Of course its WAY to early (since most people have just started this diet) to know if im fully right or wrong. |
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Date: 3/25/2004 3:53:00 PM
From Authorid: 10754
I'm sure the argument of losing too much weight to fast will come up, so allow me to address a point on it - most people who try a certain diet or plan FAIL ( and thus fall off the diet ) when they fail to see results after several weeks. True, they're probably not exercising like they should/at all, but it's frustrating nonetheless. The Atkins method generally starts out losing qeight quickly, then soon slows down a bit, but still with observable results, thus not posing a health risk ( in terms of losing too much weight too fast ). Think of how much more mitivated someone will be with seeing a bit of quick result in the beginning of their diet; it's a lot more motivation than someone who sees no results and gets frustrated. |
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Date: 3/25/2004 3:58:00 PM
From Authorid: 10754
" Of course its WAY to early (since most people have just started this diet) to know if im fully right or wrong. " <---your statement which I have already contradicted......had a friend who was a good 290....began Atkins in January 2003, had lost 80 pounds by July ( she exercised, but not consistantly ). Last time I spoke with her ( around September 2003 ), she had lost another 25 pounds. I hear she's pretty bombshell right now, so I guess not only did it KEEP WORKING, but she KEPT THE WEIGHT OFF as well. People gain weight back because they take no steps to supplement their new health status with productive habits, plain and simple. |
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Date: 3/25/2004 4:00:00 PM
From Authorid: 10754
And that goes for any diet, Atkins or other.....( YES, it even happens with cutting calories )...once you resume your previous eating habits, the weight will return, unless you're exercising ( and even then, you'd have to up your exercise a bit to AT LEAST maintain your weight ). When you simplify what the Atkins diet it, all you're really doing is taking away the foods that contribute most to American's rising obesity. |
Date: 3/25/2004 4:01:00 PM
From Authorid: 62423
Fad of the year. Just wait until people start having heart problems...  |
Date: 3/25/2004 4:02:00 PM
From Authorid: 1432
Worked for me.. I lost 75 pounds in 10 months..  |
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Date: 3/25/2004 4:05:00 PM
From Authorid: 10754
Heart problems from what? |
Date: 3/25/2004 4:29:00 PM
From Authorid: 49976
They say you get heart problems from the fried foods and fats,the philosophy on low carb is fat is your friend,I dont think fat hurts you,my great aunt is 86 or 87 yrs old,she cooks in lard,eats fried foods and is as healthy as anything,she hasnt been to the doctor in 20 years. I myself don't think low is a fad,I have lost 20 lbs when nothing else would work for me,even when I excersised,it was reccomended to me by a dr to help with symptoms of a medical problem that makes it hard for me to loose weight,also my blood pressure levels have dropped since starting low carb,I'm sold on low carb but everyone is entitled to there own opinions. :~)
Hugs&Cookies  |
Date: 3/25/2004 4:30:00 PM
From Authorid: 49976
*low carb
I missed a word there lol. |
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Date: 3/25/2004 4:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 17014
The whole idea behind Atkins is to cut the CARBS. You cut them out for so many weeks and then you slowly reintroduce them back into your diet. This way your metabolism has time to accomodate. Then you slowly ween yourself off of the diet, keeping your metabolism at the same level, so you have a constant carb intake that your body can handle. |
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Date: 3/25/2004 4:38:00 PM
From Authorid: 10754
Thank you, Kelsey, for stating it as simply as what it is - people seem to assume that saturated fat and cholesterol are encouraged by this diet. |
Date: 3/25/2004 4:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 3321
Fad. It is a way of life, but I don't buy into it. Every professional that I have talked to has had nothing good to say about Atkins.  |
Date: 3/25/2004 5:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 29387
Isn't it true that guy died recently from a heart attack?  |
Date: 3/25/2004 5:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 53052
i do think it's a fad it's one of those things that are a diet, and when you go off the diet no matter what diet it is, you tend to gain alot of the weight back, true weightloss is about lifestyle change  |
Date: 3/25/2004 5:32:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15675
The Jay I dont see how I contradicted myself. The diet has been around for years I havent denied that I just said that it hasnt been a popular diet and all of a sudden is the 'thing' here. Thats good for your friend  but as you said shes sticking to it and the way Kesley explained it sounds to me like its even more a crock LOL because you cant keep to it if part of it is weening yourself off it! Mik12 I was trying to stay away from that but yeah he died last year but not of a heartattack, he slipped and hit his head on the ice and was in a coma for awhile then eventually passed. I dont know if I buy the 'overweight' rumors because the fluids collecting makes sense to me but still that guy (before he died) didnt look all that healthy to me. |
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Date: 3/25/2004 5:32:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15675
*emphasizes the last comment she made about how he looked was an opinion not a solid researched fact * |
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Date: 3/25/2004 7:39:00 PM
From Authorid: 62423
Most Cardiologists don't recommend it |
Date: 3/25/2004 11:36:00 PM
From Authorid: 53427
I guess it works as long as you intend to stick with it. My mom has been on it since December and has went from 150lbs to 127 lbs. But I just couldn't do it. I've seen all that she has to sacrifice. I know its not for me. But she likes it.  |
Date: 3/26/2004 7:22:00 AM
From Authorid: 26733
Atkins really does work. My father was on it and he lost a good amount of weight. the only thing now is that he cant go back to ‘normal’. He still has to watch his carb intake. If he takes in a lot of carbs he will gain weight more so then before he started the diet. In the end, yes it does work. Matt aka
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Date: 3/26/2004 8:25:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15675
BoomBoom thats great but if Kelsey explained it right he shouldnt have to do that :/ or Im grossly mistaken about how this diet is supposed to work... |
Date: 3/26/2004 4:12:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
Well, my buddy Kathy lost 90 pounds in 16 months on the Adkin's diet. She looks incredible. Her roomate, Jimmy, lost 50 pounds in about a year. They can eat "bad" foods, as long as it is tiny portions, and they monitor everything. My daughter & son-in-law are currently on Adkins. Now-on the OTHER side of the coin, I have lost over 40 pounds since Thanksgiving, WITHOUT a diet, merely eating less, and trying t move around more. (they also changed my synthroid levels-I have no thyroid gland & that controls your weight). So, I am of a split mind. Yes, it seems to work. BUT, any diet that denies you certain foods cannot be good, you know?  |
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Date: 3/26/2004 4:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 62100
Well, what worries me the most is that in nursing school we have been learning so much about nutrition and how too little or too much of certain foods can affect your health. Now, if you just eat right and follow the food guide pyramid you can't really go wrong or cut too much or eat too much of anything in particular because you can delve into anything in those food groups and mix it up a little as far as what you eat. When you have to cut things out in order to reduce carbs or whatever, it seems to me that you are limiting those choices and are at more risk of what I described above, and thus creating health problems for yourself. |
Date: 3/27/2004 8:56:00 AM
From Authorid: 13952
it workes for me ....I lost 70 lbs in 8 months
I have tries every diet in the world and this one is the only one that worked.......jim.....  |
Date: 3/27/2004 12:24:00 PM
From Authorid: 55126
Though I've never been on Atkins or anything, I've read books on it, and the scientific proof is there. Eating very ow amounts of carbs puts the body in a state of ketosis which means that since the body isn't getting carbs to burn for energy, it uses stored fat instead. By the way, our bodies are made to store fat which would save us in times of famine...but since there's no famine...it's never burned off. Starving would also put the body in a state of ketosis but it would be unhealthy because the metabolism would slow due to the lack of food. The Atkins diet seems to very well keep the metabolism revved up. Seems like a sensable diet to me. -BlueCrushSurfer  |
Date: 3/27/2004 2:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 54461
Well. I have been on the Atkins diet, and it has worked for me. I then went off, and gained all the fat back. lol. So.. yeah. It works, but it is not a long term weight loss.  |
Date: 3/28/2004 7:14:00 AM
From Authorid: 47218
fad. There is something severely wrong with an eating plan that tells you to LIMIT fruit and vegetable intake and to use fruit as a garnish only! (read this on the Atkins site) If the problem is refined starches and sugars, then the advice should be to limit those things and eat whole grained starches instead, not to go on some radical eating plan that, against logic, limits your intake of all kinds of healthy foods. Think the problem is, people want instant gratification. In my experience-- the best solution is a gradual change in lifestyle, not a diet. The more gradually you lose weight, the more sustainable it is in the long run. (p.s. both sister and best friend are nutritionists and not only are both of them against it, but it seems that the majority of the nutritionist community is adverse to atkins as well as any other "miracle" diet)  |
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Date: 3/28/2004 7:20:00 AM
From Authorid: 47218
sorry, above bit should read "refined sugars", not starches. |
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Date: 3/29/2004 10:09:00 PM
From Authorid: 62483
A lot of carbs are empty calories, so in that aspect, the adkins diet teaches you to get full on things your body can utilize and take time to absorb. The reason you burn any fat on the adkins diet is because your full for longer periods of time. But your right, the only thing you loose at first is a whole lot of water. |
Date: 3/30/2004 5:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
I know Atkins works...my hubby has already lost 35 pounds on it. What is difficult about this diet is that it's called a DIET. We choose to look at it as our new Nutritional plan. Atkins makes sense if you ask me and I know a few others that have lost a LOT of weight on it also.  |
Date: 4/6/2004 6:20:00 PM
From Authorid: 51070
A good cause for a nice heart attack. It's better to lose weight the natural way - exercise and don't eat too much junk! Oh, and drink plenty of water as well. No soda.  |
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Date: 4/11/2004 6:27:00 PM
From Authorid: 62590
Well, It worked for me every thim I did it but I always quit and ganed it all back, but yes it really works good but its not really just a diet more like a new way of life because you really always have to wach the carbs, thats what my problem is ide alwasy just quit and not wach any more. But ive hearesd that in the long run its bad for you but I don't really know . It's funny youde ask becaus im planing on going back in it in the morning. |
