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Date: 2/15/2004 8:33:00 AM
From Authorid: 32133
hhhhmmmm..............  |
Date: 2/15/2004 9:05:00 AM
From Authorid: 50864
I don't agree with the God part but I agree totally about the love  |
Date: 2/15/2004 9:12:00 AM
From Authorid: 36704
Religion was a way to bring philosophy to the masses, a way to enlighten them and teach them through allegories, parables etc. to live a better life and to develop a higher level of thinking. God is not dead he's just being misused. Unconditional love is a lie, people place all kinds of conditions on love, the only thing people love or care about are themselves. Death too many is a reward but what do you expect when life is filled with a bunch of idiots.  |
Date: 2/15/2004 9:34:00 AM
From Authorid: 53284
Such a sad view of life. I start from the back. I don't fear death. If my beliefs are correct, then the essence of me won't die. If I'm wrong, then I won't feel anything. Love... There are different types of love.. The love you feel for your children is certainly real and does not involve an erotic component. The love that I have for my wife of 27 years is also very real. Love and lust are easily confused but that's another story. GOD and religion. That's tough if you havn't had a religious experience. If you do you may see that through different eyes. I do have some difficulties with organizied religions that proclaim it's their way of you are condemmed to hell.  |
Date: 2/15/2004 10:50:00 AM
From Authorid: 59418
interesting post, but quite a depressing point of view...but then again, it's probably true  |
Date: 2/16/2004 6:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 43948
Buddha wasn't a God. He was a teacher. Get it straight. Yes, God is dead, but if you look back on practically society that has ever existed, 'God' (or Religion, seems more fitting) is its basis. Affection is simply another emotion, no more or less important than any other. Death is much like a breath that we exhale, and indeed there is no reason to fear it. But when you give someone the deception of significance, to lose it is horrifyingly unthinkable.  |
Date: 2/17/2004 9:15:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 35051
36704 I believe it goes far beyond religion being "misused" because I believe it has already served any purpose it might have had, and is now a useless artifact.  |
Date: 2/20/2004 7:22:00 AM
From Authorid: 29387
I definitely agree with you about love and death, in most instances. However, the optimist still left barely surviving in me feels that there's an ultimate truth to - and ideal - to the three topics. Yes, God, and the belief system enlisted to have faith in him is mostly all show and no reality. But I do believe that there is a higher being that ultimately "looks over" everything. Because of Hollywood, propaganda, and misguidance, we get a false view of what existence truly is.  |
Date: 2/20/2004 10:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 37900
Markkyman, I think some of your views may change if you are ever privileged to get married and have children. Nihilistic philosophies may explain isolated life experiences, but too many people are convinced there is a God, love is for everyone and death is a door, not a wall. I believe philosophy is shaped by life, not the other way around. Good post!  |
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Date: 2/21/2004 2:18:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 35051
Thanks for your well thought out response alf. As for me though, I never plan on having kids or getting married. I plan to stay away from all the superficial "pleasures" of life and be a hermit. |
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Date: 2/27/2004 5:09:00 PM
From Authorid: 19613
I'll give you my take on it: 1: God is not dead, God is still waiting to be born. God is the ambition of mankind, the greatest idea we can conceive of, the sum of our hopes and desires. God creates faith, the ultimate truth, that is the acceptance of the unknowable nature of existence while retaining belief. 2: love - love is simply put, the meaning of life. We live to love ourselves and be loved by those we love. Love is humanity, it is our nature. It is what we strive for and something we cannot live without. 3; death - we do not live to die, we die because we have lived. If death is the end, then we have been granted a precious gift- consciousnous. We can know ourselves. We can know the universe. we can know existance and we are unique in that. Because our time is limited, we can learn and apreciate actions and consequences, if we were all immortal there would be no incentive. Death is an unknown, the climax of existence. We live, so that we may come to this threshold, and be prepared for both paths, to live, or cease to exist. meh, that's how i feel today, tomorrow, who knows   |
| Date: 2/27/2004 7:16:00 PM From Authorid: 62339 The idea of God didn't start out as a way to bring people together. The idea of God(s) was a way for people to explain how we got here and what makes our universe works. As for love, it's a chemical reaction in the brain and that's all. I don't think love is only for the "elite" at all. I read about a psychology study that was researching what people look for in their partners and they found that people want their partners to have the same attributes that they have, like good looks, money, or a good job. So the more "perfect" you are the more you want your partner to be perfect as well. The better looking you are the higher your standars on looks will be. Of course you lust after the person you love but you also care about them. I don't think it's greedy but it could be considered selfish. You love someone because it makes you feel good. But where do you get this idea that love is about abandonment and hurt and making some people feel terrible? And most parents do truly love their children, parental love is probably the only true unconditional love. It isn't instinctual to love, animals prove this because they live by instincts and are incapable of love. Animals are caring and protective of their offspring and that is instinctive but love isn't. I fear death but I also accept it as an inevitable fact. God was also invented becasue people didn't want to die, they wanted to be able to have an "afterlife", but I don't want to go to heaven and live forever there. I want to die eventually but for me 80 years isn't long enough to live. I don't think anyone really wants to live forever (that would be boring) but most people do feel like they haven't lived long enough or experienced enough when they die. Just give me around 200 years to live and then I'll be ready to welcome death. Oh, and humans have a strange attraction to physical, earthly things because we are physical, earthly beings. That isn't the reason for fearing death though. Even if you were conscious gas you wouldn't want to die, who wants to stop existing. |
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Date: 2/29/2004 7:40:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 35051
Good points. Yes religion was a way to make sense of the universe, but it has also served to bring people together and to unite them into a culture. God is dead, insist, because we have no need for the "creation" anymore. Love is fake, maybe the parent child bond is pure and true, I grant you that, but all other love is fake. There are those who never know or never will know "love." People are made to feel low and worthless if they cannot measure up. |
Date: 5/9/2004 6:36:00 PM
From Authorid: 49539
i love this post but not only cuz i agree with it but because im glad someone got some balls and stood up for the truth instead of all these sugarcoated lies.  |
Date: 5/15/2004 12:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 30647
my mom loves me unconditionally  |
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Date: 5/27/2004 5:37:00 PM
From Authorid: 62734
the idea of religion is dog poo is correct, but just saying that god doesnt exist is just funny. The love and death argument you made is really good. But trust me, there is true love. Thats what god is. When you meet the one, youll say "there is a god'! |
Date: 5/27/2004 5:55:00 PM
From Authorid: 59876
i find this really depressing  let's see, the idea of god doesn't make me feel good or give me excuses to do bad things. i see it more as a path of learning or exploration of different avenues if you prefer. yes love can be for greed, for power, and for all the other things you listed but not only the perfect are loved. i am far from perfect, far from attractive, and far from open, and my husband loves me and i love him with my whole heart. our son is our greatest love between us and there is nothing he could ever do that would make me not love him. we may not always like or approve what are loved ones do, but it doesn't mean we love them any less. what could be a more true love than the innocent pure outpouring of love from a small child? you think they fake that? i do fear death because i fear all that is unknown that will eventually be mine to an unatural degree. that doesn't mean i wish to look at death in a more positive light.  |
| Date: 6/12/2004 4:33:00 PM From Authorid: 51649 How is this depressing? This is freedom! -KaLahn- |
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Date: 9/28/2004 5:13:00 PM
From Authorid: 19682
Well, a post that I don't know what to say. I thought it was me that got down on this one, but I see other postings are similar. Sunshine helps a lot to forget this type of thinking for awhile.  |
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