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why believe in religion?

  Author:  55009  Category:(Debate) Created:(2/8/2004 5:45:00 PM)
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ok first lets level the playing field by all agreeing that all of histories religions that were are now considered myths by the majority of the people that now are on the earth. and in saying that wouldn't it make sense that when the current religions are of no use and others are made won't the current ones just be myths. also with that said couldn't you agree that there is no point in believing in a god or goddess or many of them if you don't believe in the minotaur that terrorized the greeks who entered his labyrith(sp?) or of druids who traveled englands beliefs. for me i see no point in believing in myths unless i see concrete proof of their existance, like actually seeing it and touching and smelling not that all myths are smooth or smelled good or even desirable to be seen but i need to see them to believe what is the point in believing in something if you can't really know it is there, so why believe if you can't proof?

and whoa i just typed a lot but anyways what are your feelings on it... what is the point of believing in religion if one day they will just be myths?

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Date: 2/8/2004 5:46:00 PM  From Authorid: 13969    What if believing in a religion is what you have to hold on to...if it keeps you going, why not?  
Date: 2/8/2004 5:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 32133    what if your religion never will be myth and will always be truth?????even if people later do consider it myth it doesnt mean its not true.  
Date: 2/8/2004 5:51:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 55009    point well taken, i haven't thought about that... but would you hold on to a potential false hope?  
Date: 2/8/2004 5:52:00 PM  From Authorid: 40979    My reasons ? Well , my reason is because I beleive in it .....lol I dunno how else to answer that . " why believe in a religion ?" I guess I believe in my relgion because I have faith that my God exists and that even though you cannot see him , you can feel him and know he is there . And if you know some thing is there and exists then I guess you have no choice but to believe in it ....lol I confuse my self .  
Date: 2/8/2004 5:57:00 PM  From Authorid: 32133    you see someone has to be right wether it be athiests wuccas Christians whoever.....so why lose hope when you could have been right.you think greek mythology is myth?i do to, but when you think about it possibly it could actually be true partly.  
Date: 2/8/2004 5:58:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 55009    ok systym so are you saying that all myths are true then, because that would mean all of sciences advances are lies... all of our exploration and the round not flat earth is all make believe? i have to side with science there... there is a lot more proof of things and less conterdictions than in the bible and one other thing is dinosaur's what about them... why arn't they in the bible or did i miss that chapter?  
Date: 2/8/2004 6:01:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 55009    i agree everyone has rights to believe in what they want to, i just want to know why they bother if one day it will be a myth... there has been no religion i know of that has lasted through out all of mans existance except with maybe one or two...  
Date: 2/8/2004 6:01:00 PM  From Authorid: 53541    people as we know it would be lost without religion. isnt that what our wourld is based upon?? if you need proof if you are a egyptian go to egypt and see the Pyramids. touch the past with your own fingers. then see what you belive. find what your heart tells you, and in so you will know is you belive in a "higher power" or "we`re just here because we`re here" sorta thing. Good luck on your journeys....
  
Date: 2/8/2004 6:06:00 PM  From Authorid: 32133    there is an account of a dinosaur in the bible.....i'll try to find it and get back to you on it.  
Date: 2/8/2004 6:15:00 PM  From Authorid: 36967    I don't believe in a religion, I just believe in a relationship with the living Jesus Christ.
  
Date: 2/8/2004 7:34:00 PM  From Authorid: 3125    Josie, The Word of God has stood the test of time. Through out time, people have tried to destroy it, abuse it, refuse it, and deny it, etc, but it is still strongly believed in today as it has always been. There has always been those who tried to convince others that it is a myth, a lie, etc, etc, but too many know God through personal experiences and has seen His hand in their own lives. God said that His Word will live forever, and it is yet alive today.  
Date: 2/8/2004 7:45:00 PM  From Authorid: 54987    The need to find some paranormal meaning to life is part of our species uniqueness. We strive to find meaning in everything. When we can't make sense of something we create superstition and false stories. Now I am not saying that all religions are made up entirely of false stories, but that all of them have some. I can understand people living in hope, but false hope? How do you know hope is false until there is no more hope? Most believers truly believe in their chosen religion so hope doesn't come into it at all. They are certain, not hopeful. Now whether that certainty is false is another matter. Belief, as you know, doesn't require proof. Scientist work on hypotheses, not beliefs and they work on evidence, not proof. Evidence can only support a hypothesis until other evidence causes one to doubt the hypothesis.  
Date: 2/8/2004 8:00:00 PM  From Authorid: 11240    Why believe in religion? DON'T! Believe in God! His Word is all the guidance one needs. God Bless.  
Date: 2/8/2004 10:06:00 PM  From Authorid: 62118    Christianity is a religion  
Date: 2/9/2004 10:16:00 AM  From Authorid: 16671    There are lots of relgions and yes Christianty is one of them. BUT I don't believe in religions, I believe in GOD, there is a difference. AND God is not a myth, never was and never will be.  
Date: 2/9/2004 11:01:00 AM  From Authorid: 31673    Can you see, touch, smell your brain? Does that mean you don't have one? You don't have to see, touch, smell to know. Somethings are just obvious.  
Date: 2/9/2004 11:02:00 AM  From Authorid: 31673    For me it's a gut feeling and what just makes sense. The existence of God just makes sense and my gut tells me it is so. I don't need to see to believe.  
Date: 2/9/2004 1:56:00 PM  From Authorid: 62060    I agree with Melodious... Some things you just know.  
Date: 2/9/2004 2:27:00 PM  From Authorid: 51173    Because both Judaism and Christianity are both HISTORICAL religions, claiming the interaction of God into history, where verifiable proof of the event was left behind.  
Date: 2/9/2004 4:16:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 55009    so they have withstood longer than others but what of the old saying "the candle is brightest just before it dies"? maybe the wax of this candle was just build taller up and believing in one god is much easier and time saving than believing in many. that is why i think they have been around as long but in any case all points of view carry their own high significance and i was under the assumption that there would be atleast one other who would side with me but i guess atheism is in a shortage here. fortunate for some unfortunate for others.  
Date: 2/10/2004 1:26:00 AM  From Authorid: 62118    By that logic Christians don't believe in God because Christianity is a religion. Its irrelevant whether you believe in religions or not. This is just another way of being self-righteous  
Date: 2/10/2004 10:35:00 AM  From Authorid: 28989    Speaking as someone who was once an atheist and later an agnostic, I kept "sensing" or "intuiting" that there was meaning to everything--and behind that meaning was an "intelligence." It's something that I couldn't put into words, but once I acknowledged that "intelligence" that I now call God, I had an experience ("religious experience," epiphany, satori, whatever you want to call it) that was much more real and profound than any physical experience I had ever had before. From that point on, as long as I continued to acknowledge God (pray to him, turn my problems over to him, etc.), my life changed in very positive ways. That for me was my proof, though I realize that it's not very scientific. Like maybe the epiphany experience was accidentally induced by endorphins flooding my brain. Or maybe my life got better because of luck or psychological health. That's where faith comes in, and it really seems to make a difference. My life has consistently gotten better since I tried to establish a relationship with God. Like Melodious said about the mind, I say the same thing about love. You can't touch it, feel it, see it or hear it, yet we know it's very real--though there are still those who call it nothing more than a chemical reaction in the brain.  
Date: 2/10/2004 10:36:00 AM  From Authorid: 54987    I'd just like to add that if people attribute their beliefs to a religion then they obviously believe in that religion. You can believe in a God with belonging to a religion. But if you do then that becomes also your belief system. I would prefer to do away with all religion and just have a belief in God (or not as the case may be). Then it would be an individual choice as it should be.  
Date: 2/10/2004 10:39:00 AM  From Authorid: 54987    Canoe that was a very touching and moving reply. I agree that this can happen and does happen to many people who then go on to align themselves to a particular religion or to strengthen their existing connection. A beautiful experience.  
Date: 2/10/2004 10:48:00 AM  From Authorid: 28989    Thanks, Koolade! I also agree that as long as you believe in God (with or without the organized religion label) you are still of a particular religion, since a religion is a system of worship of God. My own belief is that there really is only one religion, and that is the religion of God, no matter what the label or system of worship is. That's another thing that I just "intuit," from having known so many great people of other religions. And that includes atheists! I have an atheist friend who is kinder, more loving, more generous and more "spiritual" than a lot of "spiritual" people I've met. Sorry, I got off the debate topic. *Blushes*  
Date: 2/14/2004 3:31:00 PM  From Authorid: 19613    i'm fairly agnostic at the moment, but one way of looking at it is that no religion can be proven, but realising that and still having faith is something special.  
Date: 2/16/2004 11:29:00 AM  From Authorid: 1055    Well, Joshie, I have been thinking on how best to argue my point based on the parameters you set and the way you have it set up, I can't think of a good arguement without violating the rules of engagement that you have set down. That being said, I'm going to try anyway. Your first statement, that current religions won't be necessary when we make new ones, I completely disagree with because religions are not meant solely on you believing in a higher power/powers and not believing in them will anger them and their wrath will come down upon you. That is part of religion, but only a small part. What religions are really trying to do is put down some set parameters on how people should live their moral lives. Your second statement about greeks and druids I completely agree with. You should not believe in those for the same reasons that you should not believe that the world is flat. Both are old beliefs based on ignorance and superstition. Your last statement about touching, feeling, and seeing I completely disagree with. I kind of like the "brain" arguement myself and since I can't come up with a better one let me just say this. I am absolutely certain that you have seen, touched, and smelled proof. "Where?," you may ask? All around you. Nature is, by default, lazy. What can be done with the least amount of effort, that's nature's motto. The universe took ALOT of effort to make and at this point it really doesn't matter if you believe in the Big Bang, parallel universes bumping into ours, God, whatever. The point is it took something to make the universe and something had to be there for a universe to be created. In all my life, and science backs me up on this one, I have never seen something be created by nothing. Ever. No one has. Everything, even the universe, was created by stuff that was already there. So where did the stuff that began our universe come from?? I don't know. Neither does science. Me personally, I believe that a higher power (God in this case) at the very LEAST created the stuff that made our universe.  
Date: 2/24/2004 7:04:00 AM  From Authorid: 50435    Religious dogma has hurt us a lot more in the long run than it has help little Johnny's all over the world deal with his defeat at the track meet. If you can't deal with your own shortcomings then that's your own problem. Being able to shove aside your responsibilities and claim that your god didn't create you perfect and that's why you cheated on your income tax or on your spouse is one of the great benefits of feigning belief in a god. If you need to rely on your faith in some non-existant deity to get you through then you'd better do some soul-searching because you're slacking off. God is a crutch. Most of the rest of us do quite well believing in ourselves and accepting ourselves for our limitations and working towards expanding those limitations. No crutches.  
Date: 4/6/2004 7:06:00 PM  From Authorid: 62599    Right, god is a crutch. Like my cat can fly.  

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