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Ethnic Labelling

  Author:  12133  Category:(Debate) Created:(12/28/2003 9:08:00 PM)
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Why have people now decided to want to be classified by their ancestral background? For example, black people now want to be called "African-American". 99.9% of the population of blacks have never seen Africa, and if they were offered the chance to move there, would probably decline. I don't expect people to call me "English, French, Irish, ......American" I'm an American, and that's that. And I can honestly say that my grandfathers mother was full blooded French, which is a lot closer to having that as a nationality, than most "African-Americans" can claim. Why do they now feel the need to draw into their ancestory that far back? Most of them have to go back at LEAST 5 generations or more, to even HAVE the right to say they are true "African". This post is in NO WAY meant to be racist, AT ALL. It is merely asking a question.

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Date: 12/28/2003 9:12:00 PM  From Authorid: 58334    I wonder about this too. It gets uncomfortable for me because I'm really not sure what to call them. I don't want to sound racist when I refer to them, Like if I was talking about an actor and someone didn't know who they were. but I guess you just go w/ what works w/ them  
Date: 12/28/2003 9:21:00 PM  From Authorid: 51827    That boggles my mind too. Its like, wouldn't I like be a European or something like that. Wow, I dont even know my own orgin, all I know is I am an American and that is what everyone who was born in America should consider themselves, or at least that is what I think.  
Date: 12/28/2003 9:26:00 PM  From Authorid: 62310    Maybe they're just really proud of where they came from. I'm very proud of my ethnicity. I'm half Portuguese but you'd have to go back about three generations before you find someone who was actually born in Portugal. Princess Rhiannon  
Date: 12/28/2003 9:29:00 PM  From Authorid: 12341    I'm with you though I have to chart and call people by race. Makes me wonder how far being PC will go. My grandkids are all three Caucasian and Hispanic born in the USA. That's how simple it is.  
Date: 12/28/2003 9:32:00 PM  From Authorid: 12341    If I threw in all the German, Scottish, Polish, American Indian, what a hodge podge. Lets just say they were born in the USA. Is that a label too? I hate labels, reminds me of cans of Campbell's soup.  
Date: 12/28/2003 9:46:00 PM  From Authorid: 42945    mine is like Heinz 50 different varities, but I'm Australian through and through as far as I'm concerned...hugs  
Date: 12/28/2003 10:09:00 PM  From Authorid: 1799    probably proud of their heritage... i have different nationalities in me, like french, english, spanish... but when asked, i classify myself as hispanic because its what i'm really proud of.. i just have a real connection with it.  
Date: 12/28/2003 10:55:00 PM  From Authorid: 10722    Where is the European American checkbox on applications? Exactly..it's just as silly and screwed up.  
Date: 12/28/2003 11:31:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    I first heard about the "African American"label in 1989. Until then, people of color were "Black", (I still slip up & ref'r to people of color as "Black".) The truth is, they were no more "black", than my skin is "white". (I am very, fair complexed, but still peach, or cream is closer than white). My point? I agree. The true Africans bear very little physically to our American people of color.  
Date: 12/28/2003 11:34:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    We could also point out that not only is there no "Europian-American" checkbox, but come on, the only reason for identifying race on applications is for purposes of Affirmative Action. We should all be so past that now.  
Date: 12/28/2003 11:46:00 PM  From Authorid: 12341    Our last census, when I had to fill out who lived in our home, I was surprised that we could now check two, of course being caucasian and hispanic, I was glad, but what the information is being used for is pure demographics, right? Or could it be more? Seriously, I don't like having my family being made to declare their heritage here in the USA, I know they like to update the records but I don't like it. Paranoria? Who wouldn't be, given todays politics. Yuck.  
Date: 12/28/2003 11:51:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    Brenda-I understand. And, I am glad you were finally able to check both races.  
Date: 12/29/2003 12:13:00 AM  From Authorid: 7830    Well, it's just anger at what happened to their ancestors. I also know that most blacks feel resentment at having no original culture still within their community, like the native americans do for example. So them being called african american helps them feel closer to their ancestoral roots. Although I tease my husband all the time about that same topic, I understand why the black community feels it's important.  
Date: 12/29/2003 12:44:00 AM  From Authorid: 52612    yeah i also wonder about these things, about classifying race information, when some ppl aren't so sure what they r, if they're more this than that or more that than this, but what would u call a person born in a foreign country and raised in the USA?? lyke barely knowing their country, if they were brought 2 the US when only a baby ?.. -great post  
Date: 12/29/2003 1:20:00 AM  From Authorid: 13897    where did you get your statistics?  
Date: 12/29/2003 4:22:00 AM  From Authorid: 19460    i agree with ya... i dont claim to be Egyptian American just because it's likely that white folks started out there lol. I am just American... almost Mexican ( i was born near Mexico lol) but yeah, I always wondered why people call themselves Afro Americans when they probably dont even know the first thing about Africa and have never and most likely will never see their 'homeland'  
Date: 12/29/2003 8:31:00 AM  From Authorid: 58611    I think its just wrong period, if thier grandparents were born here, and thier parents were born here, and they were born here then they are as American as it gets and to say African American is nothing but a big LIE just to get special treatment. I think it sucks all the way around.  
Date: 12/29/2003 9:30:00 AM  From Authorid: 24856    This is all a part of the "politically correct" and only counts when checking the box for money or reporting on EEO.....it seems to me, if you are born in America.....you are American...PERIOD  
Date: 12/30/2003 10:35:00 PM  From Authorid: 7830    "this is shaibeautys husband" I am "African-American" and not be biased towards shaibeauty,but she brings up a very good point and i agree with her. Remember most nationalities chose to migrate to America. Africans in the slave days didn't. I don't mean to turn this into a slave era debate, i'm just trying to bring some understanding of how the culture that i grew up in believes and feels. Every other nationality that is here still maintains a sense of their original culture. Therefore all that the black community is working on doing is restoring that sense of original culture.  
Date: 12/30/2003 10:46:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 12133    My only point on that is, people should be proud of their heritage, certainly. But to make other people change what they call someone, after many years, to be "politically correct" is just "wrong". Of course, a lot of the "politically correct" labels are wrong, IMO. I mean, you are either something or you're not. If you are "black" for 30+ years, and "negro" for however log before that, why change it to "African-American"? Now, back when they were generally reffered to, by the "N" word, I completely agree with changing that label. But if they were satisfied with "black" for years, why change it now?  
Date: 1/14/2004 7:30:00 PM  From Authorid: 177    I am an Anglo/Scandinavian-American. It's fine to have some pride in your ethnic origins & cultures. But all these hyphenated Americans...well, I think our ethnic origins should be secondary in importance.  
Date: 1/14/2004 7:32:00 PM  From Authorid: 177    I always referr to "Africa-Americans" as black people. I refuse to be caught up in political correctness.  
Date: 8/30/2005 10:20:00 PM  From Authorid: 7574    Yeah, I'm pretty anti-PC.  

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