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Date: 9/11/2000 8:10:00 AM
From Authorid: 15232
I am in a bible study that did a study on mormonism. We had gotten a video from the bookstore at church, and it was pretty strange. They seem to believe some weird stuff. A friend of mine started going to one, and ever since she stopped, they have been hounding her to get her back!! Kinda creepy. They keep calling and wanting to set up meetings with her to talk. I believe that Mormonism is not the way to go. It is seen by the Bible churches as somewhat of a cult. I also have a male friend who is mormon. We have had so many religious arguments about it. He denies all the facts that I told him I heard on the videotape. I don't know, hope that helps in some way. Karen : )  |
Date: 9/11/2000 8:48:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15358
Karen: thanks,i have been a memeber of the mormon church for two years & since i stopped attending the 3-hour meetings each sunday, members are calling me non-stop & getting more & more forceful about"...Satan wants me to stay away from the true church " &" ..don't you have a testamony of the church?"..we are also assigned a visitng teacher & a home teacher who visit once a month to check on us & give us a lesson. i am beginning to feel that questions are discouraged cc octrine.  |
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Date: 9/11/2000 9:05:00 AM
From Authorid: 12835
I am a Mormon and would like to know what you are talking about. Since I see that you were also a Morman, can you tell me did they ever worship the Devil at your church ? People call us Mormans, but the name of the church is " Church of Jesue Christ". We believe in Jesus Christ and that our salvation is through him and no one else. To the author that said they saw weird stuff, please explain wierd ? When the Pope walks around dressed in all of his cermonial garb, do you consider it weird ? We are all children of God, brothers and sisters in Christ, and have the same goals. People call it a cult because they don't have all the information. People should spend more time trying to help those who don't believe in Christ than running down religions that do but may not agree with their own beliefs. When Christ was on the earth this earth they told a man that was sending devils out of people in the name of christ to stop because he was not following them. When Jesus heard this he told them they were wrong, for " those that are not against us are for us". This is in Luke of the new testament. St. Pete  |
| Date: 9/11/2000 9:36:00 AM This is ridiculous and a grave insult to all Mormons. Bert |
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Date: 9/11/2000 9:40:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15358
12835-Apostle Bruce McConkie of the Mormon church, do not worship Jesus.McConkie says:"We worship the Father and Him only and no one else. We do not worship the Son and we do not worship the Holy Ghost","Christ worked out his own salvation by worshiping the Father(BYU Speech,3-2-82) "No salvation without excepting Joseph Smith" Joseph Smith wrote these words in Doctrines of Salvation 1:189. If you don't believe me, ask your Bishop.Yes, it is called "The Church Of Jesus Christ Of Latter-Day Saints". But we also believe the Bible "as it is correctly translated".You also know we are discouraged from asking question about doctrine, and we are answered from church material. If "God is the same yesterday,today, and tommarow (KJB)" How come there have been more than 6000 changes to our doctrine since Joseph Smith? |
Date: 9/11/2000 9:43:00 AM
From Authorid: 13283
I was doing a crossover. It was a way of understanding and learning another religion different from mine. I had these two guys give me classes on mormonism. They were trying to convert me . We prayed and i was not swayed towards their chuch. After this happened The became more aggresive they wanted me to leave my faith and join theirs. Well all that mattered to me was that i already had Jesus . It did not really matter what religion i was. ROYALUZI  |
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Date: 9/11/2000 9:50:00 AM
From Authorid: 13283
I have deeply religious friends who classify masonics as satan worshippers . You cannot label all masons devil worshippers just because less than one percent of all masons did. ROYALUZI |
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Date: 9/11/2000 9:55:00 AM
From Authorid: 12835
You are making up quotes. When you plan your salvation whom are you trying to get back to. Jesus or Heavenly Father which is God. I think you are bringing in the Trinity which we do not believe in. We believe that the father the son and the holyghost are 3 unique beings. Therefore, we worship God. Jesus says that though shall worship the father with all thy heart. Not Jesus. Thou shall worship no other Gods. Yes you are correct. We do not worship Jesus or the Holy Ghost. We do believe that through Jesus Christ we will return to our Heavenly Father. And we also believe that the holy ghost is a gift from the father that is in us to guide us. When you say there are 6000 changes please list them. However do not do this on this site it would take up too much space. LOL P.S. We don't worship Joseph Smith eihter. |
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Date: 9/11/2000 10:02:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15358
*****TO THE NON-MORMON READERS****do you see how my Mormon brother & sisters react because i asked a question they find offensive? Joseph Smith WAS a Mason as were the members of the early church. My question concerned a Masonic Lodge in Ill, which did exist, and similarities to our temples. |
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Date: 9/11/2000 10:19:00 AM
From Authorid: 12835
I personally do not find it offensive. I see that you only want answers that fit your need as you do not want a " Morman " to also post on this site to defend what You do not agree with. Sorry, this board is open to all. Of course you can delete my comments if you like. Sorry if I offended you, and I hope that you do find a religion that suites your needs and beliefs. But why knock those that "you" don't agree with. God Bless and good luck. St. Pete |
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Date: 9/11/2000 10:36:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15358
12835-your comments are not deleted. i do not believe in censorship. i believe we should be free to ask questions & to have them answered honestly, that's why i asked the above question to begin with. As to my "facts" all Bible quotes are from the KJB, and other facts can be found either on the internet, or in Jerald & Sandra Tanners book: Mormonism Shadow or Reality? Sandra Tanner related to Bringham Young by one of his pologamy wives. Joseph Smith had a few too, you know, like I said, if you don't believe me, ask your Bishop. |
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Date: 9/11/2000 10:48:00 AM
From Authorid: 12835
Do you believe everthing that you read on the internet? I do not want to argue with you. Jesus Christ loves us all, and we should love our fellow man also. It is commanded of us. This is in the New Testament also. So we should try to find the good in all things, not the bad. God Bless you. Your Friend in God. St. Pete |
Date: 9/11/2000 11:41:00 AM
From Authorid: 11528
You really should speak with RangeRider. I dont have his author id# but he is easily found in the religious section. He is honest truthful and very well informed and can help You.  |
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Date: 9/11/2000 11:45:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15358
Helllooo, Mormon youth, here! I can say that from my point of view, as a practicing MormOn, that I love my religion very much. BUT, there are some really strange things that we are taught, that are kinda creepy to me. Let's put it this way-I'm not old enough to know everything, but, I do know enough to make my own decisions. I just think that there are peticular Mormons that are overly defensive about questions, and that makes me a bit weary. |
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Date: 9/11/2000 12:11:00 PM
From Authorid: 12835
It's good to ask questions. That is how your learn. You should be careful where you ask and to whom you ask. Not everyone on this site may have your best intensions in mind. If you find some things that you think are unusual please ask. And of course you should choose the religion that you feel comfortable with. I am not trying to persuade you one way or the other. Your heart will lead you in the path that you need. Pray for guidance and let God help you with some of your answers. Your Friend. St. Pete |
Date: 9/11/2000 12:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 160
To Enki, Sorry but I am not going to stay out of this one. Why on earth would you send someone to Rangerider as an authority on anything other than his own religion. RR is not going to shed a positive light on anything that he doesn't agree with. Ever heard of propoganda? It's specifically designed to turn a persons heart in another direction. Thats what will happen here. If you want information on the Mormon faith, talk to the Mormons if you want info.. on Jehovahs Witnesses talk to Witness not to someone of another faith especially someone that is prejudiced.  |
Date: 9/11/2000 12:47:00 PM
From Authorid: 14407
Aliester Crowly was not a Satanist. Yes he was mad but that is also one of the indelible marks of true genius.-Gandwere  |
Date: 9/11/2000 1:10:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
14407-alister crowley WAS a satanist by his own admission. his parents called him the" beast ". in his time he was considered" the most evil man alive." he also called himself "666" & other names in judao-christian tradition is associcated with the worship of satan.also, if he was such a rocket scientist, why did he die of a body diseased & destroyed by V.D.? he called himself by those names. besides what does that have to do with this story?  |
Date: 9/11/2000 2:53:00 PM
From Authorid: 4902
hi everyone. I set down and wrote out a very large post about several different topics concerning the topic but in the interest of not throwing ags on a volitile subject I will just say. go here to get all the info you need about religious groups if this is not enough then I will discuss it in the message boxes.and give more sites with more info.http://www.carm.org/  |
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Date: 9/11/2000 3:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 4902
RANGRRIDER WALKS IN and yells hey I hear you got snakes in you house? in his hand he is carrying a big stick to push the coiled vipers out of the way. they hiss and strike and he whacks them on the head, they crawl away in fear into a far corner where there the darkness is to hide , they all coil up together in a sickening mass of evil, range says I never did like those things. |
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Date: 9/11/2000 3:55:00 PM
From Authorid: 12835
RR, now whom or what are you speaking of pray tell...St. Pete |
Date: 9/11/2000 3:57:00 PM
From Authorid: 11948
I never liked them either,But I did find out some useful facts as I read this today,I learnt what independent babtist means,"No need for God"Already know everything from man.Stand for nothing,But fall for anything. Day Walker.......  |
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Date: 9/11/2000 4:03:00 PM
From Authorid: 4902
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. 33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. 34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. 36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. |
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Date: 9/11/2000 4:11:00 PM
From Authorid: 11948
Hello,i,i,i,i,(RR)What mirror did you finally pass by and notice "YOU"were in there?Those fine scriptures fit you to a "T". Day Walker...... |
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Date: 9/11/2000 4:12:00 PM
From Authorid: 12835
I'm not sure, are you saying that I am speaking against God ? That I am corrupt and evil ? You are quoting scripture, but I'm not sure where you are going with it. In Luke it says that you are either with God or not. Where do you see any here that are against God. St. Pete |
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Date: 9/11/2000 4:22:00 PM
From Authorid: 160
Once again you got me on the floor lauging hysterically RR. What a head!!! Give it up. What are we going to do with that ego of yours??? |
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Date: 9/11/2000 4:34:00 PM
From Authorid: 4902
laying all malice and joking aside, Just so no one will doubt me. Jesus Christ the God of the bible creator of heaven and earth saved me in oct of 1988. since that time I have devoted myself to him and his word and the teaching that he has lead me to,which is christian apologetic's, I am fully kept by him in my salvation and my everyday walk. God pays my bills, so it is Him that I serve. what I have to say here I say with sadness I wish it were not so because Just as the Good Lord wants none to perish but all come to repentance for eternal life, so do I. it is my heartfelt wish that what I say will point those who are not at total peace with God in their religion will keep seeking until they have the answers. there is peace with God and you can know that you are going to heaven when you die but you will not find that peace in the two groups we are discussing because they are built up on what they can do to make themselves worthy for acceptance by God. thereby negating salvation thought Jesus Christ who died on the cross for the sins of man.eph2: 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. >>>>this then is the rule that we must go by if we are saved. that God saves us not our own good merits and God puts us on the path of good works that he wants us to have. not the watchtower or the Mormon missionaries who ride up and down the road "out here where I live" looking for converts. or the door to door knockers of the jw's thinking that they are pleasing God. God is not amused when His Sons gospel is dispagared in favor of mans evil inventions. Mormonism is a cult as are the Jehovah witnesses. on the outside, they want the world to see them as Christian "but" they both call trinitarian Christians, apostates. so one of us is wrong{who could it be?}. both the Mormons and the Jehovah witnesses were started in the early eighteen hundreds; 1800 years after the church began and wouldn't you know it just in time for the end of time deception that Jesus in the bible said would come. while I do not deny that there are probably real Christians in these two cults it is in spite of their teachings and not because of them. both the Mormons and the Jehovah witness are polytheistic cults worshipping more then one God{a host of god's}. while true Christian teaching, teaches as does the bible that there is only one God consisting of three persons in total agreement with separate distinct offices. IE. the Father , the Son , and the Holy Spirit, all three equally God. thereby we classify Mormonism and jw's as a cult because they worship more then one God anmong many other reasons.{they do not worship the God of the bible but have in fact made up a host of Gods of their own mental picture, they also made up books to go along with their man made religion} they are guilty of thus breaking of the first three commandments because they have been told since the beginning and have not repented because they have the large following.... {Jesus said that, when the blind lead the blind then both shall fall into the ditch}the Mormons enforce tithing . I have talked to several Mormons about this and none have denied it. Tithing should be from a heart that is submitted to God and it should have the kingdom of God in its best interest, no one should be forced to Give a penny. up until a few years ago the black man was cursed and could not hold any office in the Mormon church but well they had a revelation and now the blacks can hold the priesthood. they tell their people not to drink caffeine but own coca-cola. and there are a hundred million of things like these few in both the Mormons and the JW's movements. yes by all means go ask them.. ask then about the hundreds of false prophesies that both have had.BUT DONT EXPECT THE TRUTH TO COME POURING OUT. Jesus said that no man could know the day or hr of his return but according to both of these groups he should have returned hundreds of times.they both follow in the footsteps of other cults claiming their way the only way their church the only church, their organization God's own representitive her on the earth.NO DIFFERENT THEN THE POPE. WHY NOT BE A CATHOLIC? God said if their prophesies fall to the ground then not to believe them because if they were from him they would come true, none of the failed prophsies have come true out of hundreds of chances. the very reason these groups exist is because of bible illiteracy because they focus in on tiny areas and become expert at those areas and lead poor souls astray not becuse of what they offer but what they do to change the truth. |
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Date: 9/11/2000 4:34:00 PM
From Authorid: 4902
st pete there are some here who seek my downfall but you are not one of them. however I am going to post some things and you won't like it. but I want you to know that it is not you but religion |
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Date: 9/11/2000 5:02:00 PM
From Authorid: 11948
Were not seeking it,Were watching it.Oh ye of all faiths,Can you not admitt when your wrong?Or will it spot your scarlot robe you wear so proudly. Day Walker...... |
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Date: 9/11/2000 5:13:00 PM
From Authorid: 4902
{as man is, God once was. as god is, man may become}.. Brigham Young the prophet after joseph smith>>>you see this teaching? this teaching is directly opposed to the book of genesis because the book of genesis says that God created everything in 6 days. literal days. >>>>But this teaching of brigham young is akin to the very theory of evolution. because if God were once a man then where did the universe come from? man cannot even create a universe or even a small planet.so where did Brigham get this teaching? how did the earth get here. why does brigham Young stray so far from the book of genesis? the book of genesis says the the serpent that tempted eve told her that God was holding back on her and if she ate the whatever{apple} that she would be as a God or gods knowing good and evil. so since I am a firm believer that the doctrine of the religion of evolution is from satan and since it is saatn that is going around telling men that they may become as God ruling their own planets??? then where did Brigham Young get this? so many whys?so few answers. IHS |
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Date: 9/11/2000 5:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 4902
Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, 4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? >>>>> >>>those who walk in the ways of this world system who were bought by the Lord and turn back have betrayed Jesus Just as Judas did. |
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Date: 9/11/2000 5:20:00 PM
From Authorid: 11948
He got all this by disrupting his own mind with all things except what was important,When a man dabbles in things he shouldn't be concern with then he disrupts the sure thing that should be closes to his heart. Day Walker..... |
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Date: 9/11/2000 5:29:00 PM
From Authorid: 11948
Now I'm judas?Where did you learn to see someones heart with your worldly eyes?Once again we all see your feelings toward something you do not understand,And that's someone that firmly believes in something.Something you know nothing about,Even in your own words.Try reading your own comment to my post,Not sure in your religion?Just repeating what you said. Day Walker..... |
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Date: 9/11/2000 5:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 160
I for one am not even going to dignify your slander. If anyone here wishes to know something about what Jehovahs Witnesses believe please do not hesitate to ask myself or Girlie for a bible based answer, if she or I can not give you an answer to your questions then we will admit it or find the answers. Everyone should be interested in learning the truth. But if you go to the Devil and ask him about the Lord how honest do you think his answer will be? |
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Date: 9/11/2000 5:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 4902
4 Let them be confounded and put to shame that seek after my soul: let them be turned back and brought to confusion that devise my hurt. 5 Let them be as chaff before the wind: and let the angel of the LORD chase them. |
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Date: 9/11/2000 5:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 4902
2 Chronicles 14:11 And Asa cried unto the LORD his God, and said, LORD, [it is] nothing with thee to help, whether with many, or with them that have no power: help us, O LORD our God; for we rest on thee, and in thy name we go against this multitude. O LORD, thou [art] our God; let not man prevail against thee. (KJV) |
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Date: 9/11/2000 5:52:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
Daywalker, think people might take you a little more seriously if your spelling was correct. And why the personal attacks? I asked a question this a.m. with a desire to find out the truth & not a spirit of strife.I have made no personal attacks on anyone.Rangeride has every right to answer as he pleases within the guidelines of this site. As to what I believe, that is between Heavenly Father & I. To those who question if I believe all I read on the internet, the answer is a resounding NO! But I saw something that planted a seed. And to St.Pete who is a Mormon, Our Heavenly Father gave me the gift of free will & I plan on exercising that(will) in a sincere desire to be more pleasing in his sights. There is enough publications out there, BY THE MORMON CHURCH ITSELF, that show some of our modern-day prophets came up with some bizzare stuff.I am being a good daughter, by making sure all doctrine is sound, especially if I am going to be the spiritual head of my household. |
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Date: 9/11/2000 5:55:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
"...and professing to be wise, they made themselves as fools..."ladyspirit_guide |
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Date: 9/11/2000 6:06:00 PM
From Authorid: 4902
AMEN lady spiritguide LET HEAVEN AND EARTH REJOICE BECAUSE OF TRUTH. |
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Date: 9/11/2000 6:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 11948
I didn't know well typed spelling was a requirement here,I'm glad you pointed that out to me.So if you don't spell it right it has no meaning?Huh?Lady spirit guide,Maybe you can finish what you just started,"INSULTS".That will be a good thing to guide someone to.Hope I spelled everything right? Day Walker........ |
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Date: 9/11/2000 6:37:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
WOW! Daywalker,you were dishing it out pretty strong yourself to RangeRider here & on other sites..now your wounded? Sorry. I thought you wanted to run with the big dogs, not stay on the porch with the pups.Relax...life is too short for this kind of stuff...LOL, ladyspirit_guide |
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Date: 9/11/2000 6:38:00 PM
From Authorid: 11948
Range I guess you'll have to leave with the rest of us dumbies,Since your spelling is just as bad,And has no meaning.Hope I spelled everything right. Day Walker....... |
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Date: 9/11/2000 6:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 11948
Gosh,Another member to RR's cult.You'll only see what you want to see.St.Pete is of your own belief and tried to tell you,But you acted like he wasn't even there.He must of spelled something wrong?For that it has no meaning?When you search only for the wrong answer you will find it,Because that's all you will except. Day Walker.... |
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Date: 9/11/2000 6:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 4902
I only walk with Jesus and HIS people. |
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Date: 9/11/2000 7:28:00 PM
From Authorid: 11948
You definitely walk in a multitude RR,Because you have nothing individual to show. Day Walker...... |
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Date: 9/11/2000 7:39:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
Daywalker, still attacking RR?...Silly Boy! |
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Date: 9/11/2000 7:52:00 PM
From Authorid: 11948
O.K.Lady spirit Guide out of respect for you only.And you only. Day Walker...... |
| Date: 9/11/2000 8:03:00 PM Lady Spirit Guide, It should be you're wounded not "your wounded"; get your grammer correct and we might listen to you. Bert |
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Date: 9/11/2000 8:20:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
Bert, could it be that we have seen each other at the Temple? That I saw you at conferences ? That we had sacrament togather? Aren't you my Brother? ***Do you rebuke me with love, as OUR scripute requests?***....ladyspirit_guide |
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Date: 9/11/2000 8:21:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
...ooppppss..I meant "scripture", see I'm not infallible! |
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Date: 9/11/2000 8:24:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
One more thing, Bert, why are you not assigned a number? Don't you have a mailbox? Are you a visitor? My number is posted, as is my screen name...XXXOOOXXOOO...ladyspirit_guide |
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Date: 9/11/2000 8:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 14407
15347 I'm not going to argue because Crowley's genius is totally opional. I didn't bring him up though . Reread the stoy.-Gandwere |
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Date: 9/11/2000 8:51:00 PM
From Authorid: 4902
lol cult, I am supprised its even spelled right. these people Love Jesus more then their own lives the same as I do. and because we Love Him we also Love his word and are not willing that any shall change it.you and your frineds can just slither away before I get my stick again or have you forgotten so soon? its called the word of God the sword of the Lord.As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith the LORD, from henceforth and for ever. 1 Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee. 2 For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee. IHS |
| Date: 9/11/2000 9:01:00 PM DAYWALKER LOOKS MORE LIKE A NIGHTCRAWLER TO ME.WE ARE ALL WITH YOU RR. |
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Date: 9/11/2000 9:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 11948
I guess "YOUR"meaning of the word friends is how "YOU" spell it.A crooked stick for a crooked man?I haven't felt the first hit yet.Must be weak in your swinging.Same as your message.Weak,Weak,Weak. Day Walker...... |
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Date: 9/11/2000 9:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 4902
ghosh you know you are right I did spell it wrong. I meant fiends... |
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Date: 9/11/2000 9:18:00 PM
From Authorid: 11948
Poor,Poor, Unknown author,Here's you some tissue.Sounds like you need it. Day Walker....... |
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Date: 9/11/2000 9:19:00 PM
From Authorid: 11948
Yea,Right.Never wrong.Day Walker....... |
| Date: 9/11/2000 9:22:00 PM Lady Spirit Guide, It was meant to be humorous. I am strictly a visitor. Bert |
Date: 9/11/2000 9:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 12823
AERUXIA WALKS IN, and then right back out again. [couldn't resist RR  ] Sorry, but this tearing eachother to shreds is getting old. How old are we!?!? This is why we all look like hypocrites, what is one of the seven deadly sins?...sewing discord amoung the brethren. Come on everybody. Love thy neighbor. I know this has nothing to do with this story, but neither does anything anyone else is saying. Give it up. What is everyone trying to prove? I am not perfect by any means, but what do you think God is thinking right now about all of us? Do you think it makes Him proud to see all of us like this? What does this say about us Christians? If I was an outsider looking in, I would not want anything to do with God. Let us set an example of kindness and love. That sounds corny, but it's true. Let us discuss in a friendly manner. This is the reason some shun Christianity because we act like wild dogs. I haven't seen any other religion act like this towards eachother at USM. What are we saying about Jesus? He must be very dissapointed. And I am not pointing fingers. I too have lost my temper sometimes. Every one of you is precious to God. Let us so some respect to eachother. I love every single one of you. I think all of you are WONDERFUL people. RangeRider, you know much about the scriptures and I have enjoyed our correspondence via email. PamyJo, I remember our fun talks we used to have in our profile boxes. Pete, you and I just had a run in but we both apologized and everything is better, Day Walker, I just met you and you are a FABULOUS human being. Very patient and kind. I love all you guys even though we do not agree 100%. Love,  |
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Date: 9/11/2000 9:27:00 PM
From Authorid: 12823
...and Lady Spirit Guide, we just met but you seem really nice. Welcome to USM. *hug* |
Date: 9/11/2000 9:29:00 PM
From Authorid: 12823
Ok, I just read my last two responses and I look like one of those hippy freaks, "Love is the answer, man! Right on!" See what all of you made me do! I look like an utter moron. Thanks guys! *sarcastic*  LOL Love, |
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Date: 9/11/2000 9:32:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
AERUXA, Thank you!......ladyspirit_guide |
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Date: 9/11/2000 9:36:00 PM
From Authorid: 4902
you are right ashley. I am out of here. thanks and god bless. |
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Date: 9/12/2000 9:26:00 AM
From Authorid: 4231
Ranger, u say you are christian yet you bash or expose other religions....not to mention u skip from religion to religion..but that is besides the point...You as a christian and a human being have NO RIGHT to do what you are doing..In the bible does it not say that we should not judge..you are judging...it also says that we should not be bothered or mock people in other religions.....YOU Sir are doing that..and that is wrong....you are not a true christian...... Sundin  |
| Date: 9/12/2000 9:17:00 PM From Authorid: 15446 I'm sorry but while I may disagree with RR on many points he is definitely a Christian. It is not only the right, but the duty of a Christian to evangelize. RR is simply pointing out his viewpoint, from his perspective. To state he is not a Christian is wrong. Jesus said he would divide families, set brother against brother. This we need peace at the expense of Serious communication of issues is crap. Bert |
Date: 9/13/2000 4:11:00 AM
From Authorid: 13324
I never understand why i see most hatered and backbiting and slander and rude remarks on the religon section I dont understand.I am a mormon but there is no way im going to attack anyone I will say one thing if you will research the masons you will find they go wayyyy back before christs time and they were a relgous people and they had temples where they did have rituals .But i wont argue i only represent christ who is love and not hate.namnik  |
| Date: 9/13/2000 10:08:00 AM Mormonism is a cult. Cults are to be avoided at all costs. If one desires a true mystical experience with good(God) you need look no further than traditional Catholicism. Love...Jesuit |
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Date: 9/13/2000 10:24:00 AM
From Authorid: 12835
Ok, I will say if you smit me on one cheek, I will turn to you the other. So, lets just remember whom is important here and that is Jesus Christ. I have no further need to defend my religion. For future references, I am a man of God, who believes in Jesus Christ and his atoning sacrifice here on earth. Call me whatever you like, but what I am is a Child of God that loves him with all of my heart. Judge me from now on by my words, not my religion. God knows the heart of man (and women too to be politically correct here ). I will leave the final judgement to him. To the rest I care not. Love to all. St. Pete |
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Date: 9/14/2000 2:39:00 PM
From Authorid: 3925
I have just recently joined the LDS church and I have to say I'm a little disapointed in some of these comments I am reading. cult? satanists? are you people nuts? When I decided to join the church it didn't take much convincing to me, I felt the holy spirit whispering to me that this is the true church the moment I herd the first lesson. The spirit is so powerfull that I cannot deny this is the true church and I can and will testify of this to anyone. This church my be a little different but these are different times, these are the last days. God bless you all. |
| Date: 9/14/2000 3:29:00 PM this is unbelievable...Christ hangs His head, shakes it, and clicks the X in the top right hand side of His computer. this is pathetic. why does everything here have to lead to a HOLY WAR??---a battle of words. this is truly sad!!! |
| Date: 9/14/2000 3:33:00 PM --->>>both the Mormons and the Jehovah witness are polytheistic cults worshipping more then one God<<---and RR, they do not WORSHIP more than one God. They worship the ONE TRUE GOD and BELIEVE in Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit as the bible truly instructs us all to do! |
Date: 9/14/2000 3:59:00 PM
From Authorid: 13079
RR I can not stay out of this one, my mother is a JW and she does not worship many gods, She worships only one!!!! The TRUE God,AND she knows the way to him is through Jesus Christ, you should check your facts!!!!!!!!!  |
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Date: 9/14/2000 4:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 4902
Today the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormons or LDS) teaches that God the Father and his Son Jesus Christ both have resurrected bodies of flesh and bones, but the Holy Ghost is a personage of spirit(1 - this is an endnote number). They are three separate Gods, but are called one God, in that they are one in purpose(2). God the Father was once a man, as we are now. He died, was resurrected and progressed to become a God.(3) Have these always been the teachings of the Mormon Church since its founding in 1830 as the Lord's allegedly one true church?(4) this in no way is what the christain church believes or has believed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Jehovahs wittnesses believe that the holy spirit is a force or essence much like the newagers teach. but the bible says that the holy spirit is a person the third person of the holy Godhead.act 5 :33 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? 4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. the above verses from the mouth of perter has refuted every thing you said about both the jehovas and the mormons.>>>>>>> 6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. |
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Date: 9/14/2000 4:30:00 PM
From Authorid: 4902
pixie all though these groups sound on the surface like christian they are not now nor have they ever been accepted by any christian denomination as christian. no christian theologian will put their stamp of approval on these to groups because they are involved in works salvation and this is the core of the problem "not to mention they do damage to most of the doctrines of the faith" don't believe me check it out. go to the watchman cult watch or carm.org or the christian reserch CRI. they all know . people can be whatever they want but will God approve? all the books of the bible teach to watch out for false doctrine without fail. I will now go through the new testament and pull out verses to show you.Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. (KJV) 21 And then if any man shall say to you, Lo, here is Christ; or, lo, he is there; believe him not: 22 For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect. >>>>>>>> 6 And when they had gone through the isle unto Paphos, they found a certain sorcerer, a false prophet, a Jew, whose name was Barjesus: >>>>>>>>>>>>> 14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain. 15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; >>>>>>1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. >>>>>>>>>>>> 1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. >>>>>>>> 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. >>>>>>> 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their destruction slumbereth not. >>>>>>>> 4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; 5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; 6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; >>>>>>>>>>>as you can see there are many verses teaching to beware of false teachers that would drag people back under the law of the old testament. Jesus died to free us from works salvation if we accept that. but if we mix law and grace then we do not have Jesus we have a false system of works and mormonism and the Jw's both do this to some degree. they do not have the Jesus of the bible. they have a Jesus that was made up of the bible and their own leaders imaginations.>>>>according to the christian churches without fail Jesus is God the Son and has always exitisted with the father>> but the jehovas say he was created{the first created being. the mormons say that Jesus and lucifer are brothers??? God and satan are brothers? BBBBBBrother. no way. Jesus died for us and we dishonor Him throught these teachings. and when we put these things into writing and doctrine and have others to follow then we lead people that Jesus died for into a false salvation. God hates deception. |
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Date: 9/14/2000 4:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 13079
RR: All the scriptures in the world will not prove to me that my mother believes in more that one God, My point to you was that the JW worship God, through Jesus. Now, if you will kindly tell me why you say they dont, I will listen to you but the scriptures that you toss around, do not, in any way tell me that JW's dont follow the bible. Have you ever been to the Hall? Have you ever witnessed one of their bible studies? WELL, I have and I tell you they do follow the bible. AND ONE MORE THING!!!! They are not out for human approval, they look for God's approval ONLY!!!!!! |
| Date: 9/14/2000 4:43:00 PM From Authorid: 15568 You information isn't accurate. It almost seems that you are doing what you can do to cast a bad light on others beliefs. Where are you getting your facts from anyway, the web isn't a reliable source. And there are many people that for one reason or another are bitter towards a former belief system and will look for negativity. They cant be trusted either. Amanda |
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Date: 9/14/2000 6:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 4902
pixie as you already know there is a story in my stories called "are they christain" a very long indept article.I would ask thast you go read it since this has all been gone over.also I would be glad to send you info on the Jw through email.or you can go to carm.org or you can just believe what you wish. god bless. IHS |
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Date: 9/14/2000 6:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 4902
amanda all I am doing is loving my neighbor by telling the truth. we all have to stand before God and give an account of this life.some will do it as a real christain and some will do it as a pretend christian, if I do not share the info I have "that I know to be true" then how am I any diferent then a lair and how is that loving your neighbor. Jehovahs wittnesse are not even sure of salvation but I know that I know that I will be with Jesus{jehovah} in his kingdom. I have no doubts whats so ever because I know that he does not lie. his spirit is in my heart baring wittness and his word is in my mind and he has said I will never leave you or forsake you. but the wittnesses for all of their hard work do not have assurance of eternal life "only Jesus living in your heart can give you that" and I dare say that not many will lie against the spirit of God and say they have what they do not, at least I have not seen any. |
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Date: 9/14/2000 6:26:00 PM
From Authorid: 4902
ask yourself if you have eternal life with Jesus are you sure that when you die or if the rapture should come tonight are you shure that you will go with him. I am sure. |
Date: 9/15/2000 9:22:00 AM
From Authorid: 10915
You are too much RR. You are starting lies up again. You know NOTHING about JW's or Mormons or any other faith. You are only doing this to satisfy yourself. And as far as the Holy Spirit being a person, at Acts 2: 1-4, Pentacost 33CE, how can one person enter upwards of 120 disciples? Why don't you hear it from the true source and not an internet site?  |
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Date: 9/15/2000 10:20:00 AM
From Authorid: 10798
When we say the Holy Spirit is a person, we mean He is a living, distinct personality. Songbird  |
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Date: 9/15/2000 10:36:00 AM
From Authorid: 10915
I have no more to say on this issue. Just know that the bible speaks of the holy spirit in a personified sense. But it is not a person. |
Date: 9/15/2000 4:18:00 PM
From Authorid: 14254
This is so sad. Yet another argument against organized religion. Blue Moon  |
Date: 12/5/2000 3:55:00 AM
From Authorid: 16131
There is a big difference between the Masons and the Mormons . Masons had been around many milleniums befor the Mormons . Now though , the Masons are not a religeon like they were once perceived , they are an order of people who have a degree of stroke over the world around the rest of us due to their high control over the economy by having so much of the money . But even they came from an even higher and wealthier group called " The Associllies " and the masons do have a group on underlings themselves called " The Shriner's " ..... All have rituals like any other lodge but have dwindled down to the fact of being ( Basically ) bored ppl with money but as you go up the ladder , you find more and more strange practices and recluse men who are apart of their brother hood and this is also where the conspiracy theory which is not such a conspiracy comes from about the " New World Order " ..... Take Care  |
| Date: 12/12/2000 6:39:00 PM From Authorid: 21668 You know what i am not even going go start i am a full fledged Morman and the stuff they teach is the truth they are only calling you and stuff because they want you to belive in what is right Oh wait Sorry you are a Christian well i think the stuff christians teach is rediculas most churches have money pots that you put your money and i dont like it and sorry if offended you |
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Date: 12/12/2000 6:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 21668
I am sorry for that last commet that was very rude i didnt understand it i was tottaly wrong so here is my story i Was baptised morman on April 19th 1999 i have been a member since i was 9 i am 14 now if you can accept my appoligy it would be greatly appreciated. Rember god loves you |
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Date: 1/7/2002 9:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 48513
Hello there: I just became a new user tonight at this sight and was intriged by your comments about Mormonism. I am 49 and was born into the church. My maiden name is Young, and I was raised Latter-day-saint by the most wonderful parents and family that anyone could possibly know! I was raised to love all people and had many interesting friends of all nationalities and religions. My best pals growing up were Baptist, Catholic and Jewish. Within our Morman faith I participated in all the programs, but as a teen rebelled some and smoked cigarettes for a few years, and made a few un-Morman like choices off and on thru life. But after experiencing so much of the world, outside of the church, it was wonderful to return to full fellowship. Today I am endowed and have been to the temple on 3 occasions in the past 4 months. I am telling you, there is NOTHING scary, witchlike, demonlike or un-christian there. Yes, there is symbolism, and promises made, but all beautiful, moving, loving and tender. I was also an Eastern Star years ago and a Jobs Daughter before that. In ancient times, I do not know or care what pagan peoples did in rituals. Our rituals today involve our love and dedication to Jesus the Christ and to no other!!! Our church is not The Church of "Joseph Smith", but The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day-Saints." As you participate and grow in our particular gospel many marvelous experiences await you, and for me, these marvelous experiences come outside of the temple. Oh, I realize that we are to redeem the dead, and covenent with God important promises there, yet it is the weekly meetings and the perfection with how our church operates that will testify to you of it's outstanding order of goodness and love. The brotherhood, values, morals and joy that come to you each week by participating in this religion, testifies to me that it IS the true Church of Jesus Christ. I have spent many years putting forth great effort getting to know other faiths, and I have NEVER felt the sweet spirit of truth anywhere as strongly as I have within the Morman sect. The fact that Joseph Smith, who was obviously a Mason in his time, added masonic-like rituals for us to participate in within the temple while making beautiful promises to God, does not bother me. It was common for people of earlier times to be, perhaps, superstituous and feel that certain clothing or other jestures or symbols made while working within the temple would add more depth to those promises. In the Catholic world there is much symbolism, statues, adornment worn by the clergy and others who may participate - we feel were are being no different. We do feel set apart from the filth of the world while there and in our meetings and it feels good. This doesn't mean that we feel we are perfect! No, no. We are just proud to wear our promises made to God on our very bodies and we desire to always remember him when making decisions and in all our actions. At least we try to do this as best we can, and most of us do quite well at it. Since I have been to the Temple my obvious "sins" have nearly ceased since I have no desire to break my covenents with my heavenly father, so sacred were the promises I made with a full heart to him. Knowing how much you are loved by our creator does help us to want to do our very best. We DO believe, "Like Father, Like Son." At least we want to be like our heavenly Father and try in our own way to do all that we can while in this earthly state. It would take too much time to express all that I would like to about our church. I would just like to leave you with this. If ANYONE wants to REALLY know what it is all about, come to any ward one Sunday and see for yourself. I hate to disapoint all the haters of Mormonism out there, but there is nothing weird, evil or scary to be found within our church. Only good and loving people, who love the bible, who love The Lord our God and each other more than anything else in the world~ God bless, and thank you very much for your time. Carlita1 |
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