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In light of 9-11, terrorist threat, and Black out, should Americans have the basic knowledge of surv

  Author:  52140  Category:(Debate) Created:(8/15/2003 3:21:00 PM)
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There are some people who are completely clueless as to the basic survival skills (me included). Unless you're a military person or a boy scout, you probably wouldn't know how to take care of yourself "in the wild".

I was wondering today, "What if something really bad happened in America and all the order was destroyed and chaos ruled us? What if something happened to our technologies? We are so dependant on it, how would we live without it?"

Should someone set up survival training "camps" or "organizations" to teach Americans how to survive without technology? Should schools be required to teach all kids these same ways to take care of themselves?

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Date: 8/15/2003 5:02:00 PM  From Authorid: 5886    I think it's a good idea. Everyone needs to know how to survive in the wild. If your car were to run off the road into the forest and you somehow get lost, how'd you survive then? If we got into a nuclear war where all the major cities were gone and their suburbs uninhabitible, with no electricity anyplace, what then would we do? Prolly starve of course. No Mcdonalds or Hot Dog stands! Oh my!  
Date: 8/15/2003 6:24:00 PM  From Authorid: 28848    I don't know about camps, but I think that it is the individual's responsibility to be educated and aware. I wouldn't know how to survive living in the forest, but I do know how to prepare myself for crisis as far as stocking up on goods, etc...  
Date: 8/15/2003 6:30:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    actually, I do know natural healing, what plants are edible, what are not, and simple things like making soap from scratch..so, I could do it. I also know basic-life support, CPR, and first-aid. So, I could do it....  
Date: 8/15/2003 6:30:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    BUT I WOULDN'T BE HAPPY WITHOUT INDOOR PLUMMING  
Date: 8/15/2003 7:14:00 PM  From Authorid: 3125    Well..I was raised in much of the old Indian ways. I thought that was the only way when I was younger. I thought all children were taught how to survive off the land and to make fires, to trap, cook and eat some of what they caught or things they gathered. I thought all children recognized the difference in a poisonous weed and an edible plant or what berries were edible and which ones were not, what was edible and what was not, or even what barks from what trees could be eaten and what not to eat. I knew what plants were best for healing, etc. We learned to make our own soaps, butter, and clothing, etc. We even knew which grass blade to pick to make music by tearing a piece of grass and placing it between our two thumbs and gentle blow on it. I recognized many animal tracks and bird calls, etc., and which were dangerous and which were not. I roamed many caves and mountains and drank some of the coldest spring water that ever was. Really, I wasn't so concerned about 9-11 and how I would survive as much as I was concerned as to what some of the people I know would do. When the war started, my children already knew what they were to do and where we were to meet. Though my children lived in a very modern world, they were taught the art of survival as they were growing up. I could teach others how to survive without technology because I lived much of it myself. I am definitely with LSG on the indoor plumbing though. LOL I have been 'spoiled' by modern technology but I am sure that I could survive of the land if necessary.  
Date: 8/15/2003 8:17:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    smiles at Barb...those are good skills to have! My biggest survival problem is I require medication to live. Nothing so simple as blood pressure meds, which could be simulated in nature. I take synthroid, because I don't have a thyroid gland. Without my Rx's, I would eventually become comatose & die. So, unless I find a natural replacement....I am out-of-luck  
Date: 8/15/2003 8:21:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    I can also do an excellent duck call with my hands, I am very good at animal tracks, and I am pretty good with bird calls. I am at one disadvantage here in Florida, because we cannot tell true North by the moss on trees, since moss grows ALL around the tree down here. *sigh*. I would probably have to rely on the old "needle on a cork in water" to find North, but even that is not accurate  
Date: 8/15/2003 8:22:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    I think everyone who reads this post should contact their local YMCA, or Red Cross & take basic first aid, and CPR  
Date: 8/15/2003 8:37:00 PM  From Authorid: 58030    <~ grew up around the firehouse, so i know basic first aid and cpr, , i think everyone should know this stuff, i can tell the difference between a rasberry and a poisinous berry and our water comes from a well not a plant, going without electricity would be hard, as would be gettin to and from places if we ran out of gas (we live about 6 miles from a gas station) but the nearest walmart or whatnot is like 15-20 miles.... so me, i'd just sit in my house eatin my chef boyardi, heated up on the woodstove, and really it would take us probably 3 weeks to a system where we could do anything, any one ever watch the tv show dark angel, i can make toothpaste! bakinsoda and mint leaves! lol, soap that'd be a lil different, but.... hey my grandma probly knows how... or we have a book somewhere.... lol i dunno how a school would manage it, as many schools are in the cities, the country schools out here we could just go out and start pointin stuff out... lol, but if it were possible it would be nice to do.... but if the water went out... there are PLENTY of streams and rivers and stuff.. though i would NOT drink out of the river and i'd have to be boilin that stream water for like ever, but rain i'd be cool with....  
Date: 8/15/2003 8:38:00 PM  From Authorid: 58030    u know tho girl scouts don't teach you crud about survivin in the wilderness (or maybe that was just my troop) i had to quit, they just wanted to do all the fashion badges and stuff... BLEH i couldnt' stand it...  
Date: 8/15/2003 8:40:00 PM  From Authorid: 30986    This is why I'm glad I was raised in the country, all this hoopla over a power outage when all ya gotta do is use common sense.  
Date: 8/15/2003 9:28:00 PM  From Authorid: 58030    AMEN krysta, all these folks are all... Ewwww your going to drink that it came out of the ground ewww, ur drinkin water that came from a rusty tap in new jersey, and i've got water that they couldn't make any better it was so good  
Date: 8/16/2003 7:39:00 AM  From Authorid: 22080    honestly i know what prolly will happen, in the event of an economical,government and technological collapse people would flock towards cities and towns to loot whatever things they think they need, after that there will be hordes ravaging the country side looking for people with stuff that they think they need and after that they used up all those resources, those people would die  
Date: 8/16/2003 7:46:00 AM  From Authorid: 22080    LSG i can do a loon call with my hands lol, also i just thought of something, in the event of a collapse we would have to do without showers, theres a reason, we go into the wild our senses will be honed once again to a primitive state, we will go for whatever food and do it anyway possible, so if you smell all minty fresh you can bet hordes will find you and most likely kill you, personally it sounds sick but if that crap does happen, i will use any means of survival and yes that means i would eat a dog if i was without food for to long and had come across one, of course after i find one of my own to have as a partner in crime lol  
Date: 8/16/2003 8:08:00 AM  From Authorid: 16671    I'm not worried about it, I'm married to a man that should have been born 100 years ago. He has been teaching myself as well as our children how to survive without modern things, he started teaching us these things when the possiblities of y2k happening. We learned at children how to make soap as we made it with our grandma and mom , many times. How to make butter , how to make jerky out of meat. I also have a book, something called, Indian healing plants, and as I say my husband knows lots about the plants .  
Date: 8/16/2003 12:44:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 52140    AMEN! AMEN! AMEN! to LSG about indoor plumbing! Maybe a requirement for these camps would be that they teach how to built a primitive toilet and pipes, then again, you could just dig a hole.  
Date: 8/16/2003 3:24:00 PM  From Authorid: 22080    yeah a deep hole and 2 collapseable shovles(the army e-tool) is perfect, im used to camping in alaska, i know how to live in the wilderness  

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