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I'M JUST STUPID-------KURTVEDDER:)

  Author:  45630  Category:(Discussion) Created:(8/3/2003 8:05:00 PM)
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Hi recently you might have noticed that I have been asking questions based on standup comedy routines of my fave comedians. Here's another routine by a young comedian who suffers from the same one name illness as Madonna, Jimoen.

"When I was younger my mother and father took me to a specialist because I was learning very slowly. They wanted to test me for A.D.D. and other learning disorders. After the results were complete the doctor came back and said I'm sorry but your son does not have ADD. He is just stupid. I was really upset, coz I had been praying for ADD because you get help when you have ADD but the doctor just said no I'm sorry your just stupid go outside and play with a rubber ball and try not to hit yourself too much, although that may improve your face".

My question today is "Do you think children with learning deficiencies really get enough help within the educational system?"

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Date: 8/3/2003 8:19:00 PM  From Authorid: 34487    LOL, once again, very funny. As a child I had A.D.D and now my son does too and on that note.... I don't think the educational system understands it well enough to be helpful. I think they've come a long way but they have far to go. Good post.   
Date: 8/3/2003 8:23:00 PM  From Authorid: 57404    LOL funny! Yea, I agree.. I don't think the schools know enought about ADD to really be much help. God Bless  
Date: 8/3/2003 11:08:00 PM  From Authorid: 45619    all they do nowadays is pump em full of meds and tell people to deal with it! but personally, when kids spend all day in ALC becuase they learn slowly, i don't think the school should be required to do any more, they do enough already.  
Date: 8/3/2003 11:34:00 PM  From Authorid: 28848    No I don't think that they get enough help. There are too little funding for extra teaching supplies, and facilities, not to mention the lack of teachers available due to being under paid.  
Date: 8/4/2003 2:44:00 AM  From Authorid: 35720    My brother is in a more help oriented class because he has ADHD. Well, I met his teacher and she is not helpful at all. She's more of a drill seargant than anything. She's such an evil witch.. she gives him little to no needed help and instead treats him like he's stupid. I think this is partly the reason he failed. Hopefully next year, she actually takes on the role as an educator instead of some stupidhead.   
Date: 8/4/2003 6:04:00 AM  From Authorid: 46069    around here , it seems that they dont take the time and test to see if it really is ADD.. they see a kid acting up or acting out and just label them with it.... i have seen alot of kids be labeled that way and in fact are not ADD. They must all be going to the same doctor.... you walk in he takes one look at your child and without further testing, hands you a precription ...  
Date: 8/4/2003 6:14:00 AM  From Authorid: 10245    LOL... I think it depends upon the district. I'm having first hand experience with this... the district we live in is wonderful. They have more than adequatly trained personnel and I've yet to meet a teacher who doesn't REALLY care. My son has made remarkable progess after 2 years in their program... I've heard horror stories from other parents in neighboring districts, though.  
Date: 8/4/2003 7:43:00 AM  From Authorid: 54247    No, they do not. Actually,parents NEED to do most of it - research, find qualified professionals, fill in the blanks. Schools just cannot do it! Sometimes there are special schools where a child might benefit. Our son (now 41) was premature and deaf at birth. Loss of hearing is at all different levels - some can benefit by lip reading and others really need sign language and today there are operations (cochlear implants) - BUT ALWAYS REMEMBER ONE SIZE DOES NOT FIT ALL. RAT
Date: 8/4/2003 7:53:00 AM  From Authorid: 23796    Actually, you have to have a diagnosis to get the help needed for a child today. It used to be teachers, on their own accord, would try different things with different kids in order to see what helps those kids learn. Now it's different. Your Children aren't individuals, they are numbers in a blind sea of childrens faces. YOur kids don't get the individual help they need. If your child is a little "Slow" or has a "Slight" disability, it has to be documented in order to get that child help. A.D.D & A.D.H.D are nickle and dime diagnosis' now, but many kids still have them. There are children with Gross motor and fine motor skill delays, Milestone delays, etc that need help and often get overlooked because of lack of diagnosis. Many people are under the assumption that the school itself has to pay for these special services but they are reimbursed Federally. It is federal law that states all kids are to get an equal education...etc. Do kids get enough help? No, they don't. That's why parents of kids with disabilities need to get together and fight the school system to make them provide better services (It is federal law after all) Many people feel intimidated because of that piece of paper on the wall that say's they have an education. What many people don't keep in mind is yes, That piece of paper proves they have a masters in education...but thats it, it's a masters in education, NOT a Masters in YOUR child. Alot of educators have to be reminded of that. I speak this as a Parent of Children with disabilities, their Advocate, and a Professional who once worked in humans Services. I gave up my career for my kids. Had to. No one else was gonna advocate as much as I was going to. It's a full time JOb! Good Post!!!  
Date: 8/4/2003 7:55:00 AM  From Authorid: 23796    OH, BTW, for many parents that may not know this...your child, weither they are deaf, blind, etc has a right to go to a regular school! That school HAS to provide the services. If they cannot then that SCHOOL has to Pay for the child to go to a school that can. Many people don't know this little tid bit!  

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