Date: 7/26/2003 2:56:00 AM
From Authorid: 49101
I lean towards the support of Exploration of science on this one. Test Tube Babies are not just a way of creating life for people who can not have children, but it aids in a lot of research that can help cure diseases such as Cancer.  |
Date: 7/26/2003 4:22:00 AM
From Authorid: 56840
I believe.. That if God made someone unable to bear a child, there was a reason for it. I do believe that it is morally wrong to raise a child outside a natural, human womb, where they never feel the movement of the mother, never hear her voice so close, her heartbeat, and may never be able to develop as tight a bond wtih the mother at an early age because of it. I believe that children are a gift from God, not from doctors, and I believe that all humans are insatiable. Take care, very good post!  |
Date: 7/26/2003 5:23:00 AM
From Authorid: 53558
If God didn't want us to have test tube babies He wouldn't have given scientist the knowledge to do it. Great big hugs. Take care.  |
Date: 7/26/2003 6:02:00 AM
From Authorid: 36956
Ummm, ok! So Lady Blaze you believe that it is wrong for someone to adopt a child then since they didnt have God to make someone able to bear a child? An adoptive Mother never get's to feel the baby kick, nor had the morning sickness, yet she loves the child the same! I dont believe that you have to be the biological parent for the child to form a bond! I know alot of parents that never formed that bond while they were pregnant! I believe that the baby learns love after its born, doesnt matter how it got here!  |
Date: 7/26/2003 6:11:00 AM
From Authorid: 22852
I think it is a double edged sword. If the test tube baby is made from the mother and father then I think it is a miracle but when the babies are made from donors then I worry because down the road two test tube babies grow up and marry and do not know who the biological parents are and they could be brother and sister. I read yesterday that there are over 1 million test tube babies out there, the same thing worries me about sperm donors. It is a scary thought indeed.  |
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Date: 7/26/2003 6:16:00 AM
From Authorid: 22852
ahh Lady Blaze.. the fetus is not raised in a tube.. the eggs are fertilized in a tube then the eggs are inplanted into the womb and the woman carries the fetus until birth. And to be honest here "I" can no longer have children but if my husband and I decided we wanted another child we would have them take my eggs and my husbands sperm and hire someone to carry our child. Modern medicine to me is a miracle, it is just when the donors are secret and the people have no clue if they are related that worries me. |
Date: 7/26/2003 6:59:00 AM
From Authorid: 62118
Ladyblaze - does God also have reasons for making people born with down syndrome?  |
Date: 7/26/2003 8:02:00 AM
From Authorid: 16671
LadyBlaze that is wrong thinking. I wont go into the whole issue of God vs the god of the world, BUT God does want us to have children. I agree with storm chaser.  |
Date: 7/26/2003 8:40:00 AM
From Authorid: 54532
I agree with Crysania.  |
Date: 7/26/2003 10:18:00 AM
From Authorid: 56990
A thought enclosed in a question:"Isnt goin to make them less human than we are??"
--We know that babies come *naturally* from thier mothers they are not grown thru test tubes.Defying nature have proven faulty many times........  |
Date: 7/26/2003 11:27:00 AM
From Authorid: 43948
Udderly morbid and disturbing. That stuff frightens me, because we are on the brink of some fearful breakthroughs in science. If you think about it, how far are from being able to modify the genes of someone's braincells and have them so that they can reproduce and be able to upgrade and repair themselves? Hello possibilty of immortality....  |
Date: 7/26/2003 1:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 11251
I have done a lot of soul searching on this issue. Once upon a time I was entirely against it. Then just a couple of years ago, my boyfriend Sean was diagnosed with testicular cancer. Though the cancer is gone, the chemo he had to go through has left him sterile probably for life. Sean and I are gettig married next year and both of us are wanting children. Before Sean's treatments he banked his sperm just in case he wasn't able to do it as we say "the fun way". The thought of IVF used to bother me a lot, but now I see it somewhat different. I do agree that it can be used by some to create perfect children and can be used in othert such bad ways. Another addition to my story is a genetic disorder that Sean has called phenylketonuria (pku). If I am a carrier for this disease, it is a 50/50 chance that our children will have it too. One thing I will not use IVF for is to avoid that possibility. If we have a PKU child, so be it. But anyway, I have started rambling now. Just my 2 cents...maybe 4 this time...lol,  |
Date: 7/26/2003 2:38:00 PM
From Authorid: 53052
i think depending on wher eyou want to take it.. if it helps a very capible mother get pregnant with a child then it's worth while....i think it's science just helping nature along(like if a married couple has been trying for YEARS to get pregnant and no luck the doc can grab an egg and some sperm and fertilize the egg and put it back in her is fine in my mind)  |
Date: 7/26/2003 3:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 57225
i dont really think its right. like..on one side of things, it could be useful in science and finding cures for diseases and things, but i do not think its right to grow a person in a tube just to do tests on it. what kind of a life would that be? and for those who cant bear children..adoption anyone? there are a lot of children w/o homes out there. and i know that its really expensive, but i know that i wouldnt feel right having a child that was 'conceived' in a tube. i just dont feel right about any of it. i think its more like a power thing. like a 'look what we can do' type of deal.  |
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Date: 7/26/2003 4:13:00 PM
From Authorid: 49101
OK, the research I was talking about is Stem Cell REsearch and such. Did you all know that MANY of the secrets of life are contained within the Placenta? And MANY of the mothers who use alternate methods of conception are donors for such causes. There is WHOLE lot more to it than that, but I just thought I would mention it. |
Date: 7/26/2003 8:26:00 PM
From Authorid: 22080
hey if we can do it, why not  |
Date: 7/26/2003 10:09:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 16155
Jestr, we can almost clone people so should we just go off cloning everybody? Theres a million other things we can do as well but should we be doing those things? like we're capable of bank robbery, murder, ect. but that doesnt mean we should just go and "do it"  |
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Date: 7/26/2003 10:55:00 PM
From Authorid: 53052
i think when it comes to "cloneing" and "genetically altered" then it becomes and issue creating a race os "super babies" what will just seperate the upperclass from the lower class even more... but figureing out a way where a family can have a child without carrying on genetic disorders(like down syndrome, or heart problems and so on) things that can be applied for the greater good |
Date: 7/27/2003 1:18:00 PM
From Authorid: 38507
Well, they are still human and created the same way all others are created. In some cases the mother can not bare a child in her own body so they creat an artificial womb for the egg, and then fertlize it from their. The child was still concieved out of love, and with two objects the sperm and the egg. Its the same thing, just a differnt opption.  |
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Date: 7/27/2003 7:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 22080
...your sounding like someone in an abortion debate, i meant if we can do the test tube babies why not |
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Date: 7/29/2003 10:23:00 PM
From Authorid: 56840
62118, there is a reason for everything. Enchantress, I never said that a baby WOULDN'T be able to, only 'may never be able to develop as tight a bond' I don't think there is anything wrong with adopting. Perhaps that was the reason God wanted the couple not able to have children in the first place. Thank you, Storm Chaser, for clarifying that for me, about how the process works. I admit I know next to nothing about this, I only ask that you respect my opinion in the context of me being only so old and so learned about this. I all honesty, please, if possible, educate me so I may have a view without blinders. And I agree with you about not knowing who the parents are, that is a frightening thought. I know I didn't refute all of the questions and replies directed at me, but I must say people make good points. |
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Date: 7/30/2003 5:46:00 AM
From Authorid: 62118
The reasons are genetic faults. |
