Date: 7/24/2003 4:57:00 PM
From Authorid: 53052
sometimes you gotta learn to give up.. i said it last night(about someone else.. i won't say who) that you can ONLY help people who would HELP themselves... you can't force him to do something he doesn't want to do... you can just bluntly tell him to stop complaining.. try this "what do you expect me to do about it?" then tell him to stop complinging when he says nothing i know it's frustrating.... but you shouldn't have to give and give and have someone else reap all the rewards |
Date: 7/24/2003 5:06:00 PM
From Authorid: 3648
I have to agree with Midnightly on this. She has given excellent advice. |
Date: 7/24/2003 5:06:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 53909
Midnightly...Sometimes we want to just give up on him. But it's hard because I know that he really needs us. We're all that he has in real life. It really seems like he's not willing to go out and help himself but instead of help going to him. Does that make any sense? |
Date: 7/24/2003 5:11:00 PM
From Authorid: 8278
sounds like midnightly gave you excellent advice. there is only so much you can do for a person. they have to want it for themselves. if he doesn't want to better himself, then you can't force him. it's hard, but sometimes all you can do is step back. best of luck. (hugs) |
Date: 7/24/2003 5:14:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 53909
Grey Eyed Girl...I agree too. She always gives such wonderful advice. She is good! LOL! I'm hiding right now from Josh online. I just don't feel like talking to him right this moment. |
Date: 7/24/2003 5:15:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 53909
Cage...I think that he's comfortable in living in the place he is right now since he hasn't really done anything other than whinning and conplaining. And maybe he likes the attention and wants everyone to feel sorry for him. |
Date: 7/24/2003 5:15:00 PM
From Authorid: 59385
Sorry to say he probably will never change,plus I think he is in a type of depression and sometimes video games help with a type of release in a way.Wish i could help or suggest something more to help the situation,good luck and I hope it gets better for himI have my Atari 2600,Nes,Snes,Nintendo64,Playstation 1 and 2,I love my video games very much if not more than him..lol.good luck |
Date: 7/24/2003 5:15:00 PM
From Authorid: 53052
he wants things but he doesn't want to do the leg work to get them... i had a friend like this... we had a bit of a falling out... it's not worth the stress you put yourself under because they don't appreciate what your doing for them....ant that makes you feel helples... but they are ungreatful |
Date: 7/24/2003 5:16:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 53909
Midnightly...For once, I wish that he would appreicate what we have done and how we tried to help him. This has been going on for the longest time. Ever since I've known him which has been over 3 years. |
Date: 7/24/2003 5:18:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 53909
White Dragon...I feel that he's not going to change either. I know that he's depressed and we try to help him. He's been a video game player ever since he was real young. |
Date: 7/24/2003 5:19:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 53909
White Dragon...I love video games also and arcade games. We have soooo many game systems but we don't play them as much as josh. LOL! |
Date: 7/24/2003 5:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 53052
punky you just have to give up... call him a lost case...don't keep going outta your way for him maybe then he will realise it... but i must add this is part of the reason why my child will never have a game system |
Date: 7/24/2003 5:49:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 53909
Midnightly...I also think that his mom should do something about the way he acts. It doesn't seem like she does much but that's my opinion. I think the next time we talk to josh we will honestly tell him how we feel. It's just getting way too old. |
Date: 7/24/2003 6:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 53052
well unfortuntly his mom can't do too much about him because he is an adult(she could kick him out but that is a whole nother issue) |
Date: 7/24/2003 8:24:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 53909
Midnightly...That's true too. She also has some problems with herself also and she needs someone to take care of her. But yea, that's another story. LOL! He is old enough and he should be on his own now. |
Date: 7/24/2003 10:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 62146
Well this seems anoying but my advise for you is to be bit more hard on him so he understands. And everytime he complains remind him of what he has and what you guys must put up with. He must grow up he has a temper as you said people who are like that do tend to be a bit hard to change though. Dose he have a past like did he have rough child hood you might have to see thing from point of view but if he is just a big baby then well your just going to have to tell him of for it.
*Cosmic Freak* |
Date: 7/24/2003 10:49:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 53909
Cosmic Freak...He didn't have that bad of a childhood. His father left them when he was younger but they all hated his father anyways and could care less. He also has ADD and I think maybe it might have something to do with it, maybe not. He has been seeing a doctor about his bad temper but it doesn't seem like it's doing any good for him at all. He hasn't change or wants to change. When we find the right time, we will have a serious talk with him. |