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Ugh! He is driving us insane! *PunkStarChik*

  Author:  53909  Category:(General Advice) Created:(7/24/2003 4:48:00 PM)
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I am talking with my bf's best friend online right now. He never listens to us! We always try to help him out but he just never listens or takes our advice. Let me tell you a little about him.... He is 21 years old and still living with his mom and younger brother. He has no friends execpt for us. All his life basically depends on is videos games, the internet and Role playing. That's its! Seriously! And he has a BIG temper problem.

Now, he's been trying to get a job for the longest time. He said that he's been fired at least 6 times. Right now, he is doing volunterry (sp?) work at a retirement home. He said, if he stays there for a year, his job record will be cleaned and he could get ANY job that he wanted. He also said that since he's not doing a paying job, he can't get fired.......WRONG!! I believe that Oregon Law states that anyone get get fired at any time and for no reason. Is that correct? When I told him that, he asks me why is he still there there. I told him, "because you are doing a good job"

He keeps whining that he doens't have any money. And there has been SOOOO many times that we told him to keep trying to get a real job. In my opinion, working at a no pay job for over a year isn't worth it if he's complaining about wanting money. He told us that he has tried everywhere. I told him that he has to keep looking and keep calling back at the jobs.

He is jealous because my brother gets free rentals from his job and wishes that he could get free movies and especially video games instead of watching boring tv. I told him that my brother works to get those free rentals and sometimes he lets us rent movies off of his account because he trusts us and not Josh. I told Josh that we work our butts off to pay for what we have while he doesn't.

Josh also whines that he wants money to have fun with. I told him that we want to have money to have fun also, but it's impossiable to have too much fun while having bills to pay and other stuff that we have to pay for. He doesn't understand what it's like to be in our shoes. He thinks that all we do is have fun.

He also thinks that if we ever couldn't pay for our rent, we could just move back to our parents. WRONG!!!! My dad and I don't get along and there isn't any room for us to move in to my parents house. My bf couldn't live with his Dad because of how him and his dad's gf don't get along. Long stories but you can get the point that it wouldn't work out.

Josh thinks that life is like a video game. Because he would rather restart in his own world then go through the levels. (if that makes any sense) He would want to use cheats to get through life easier. But Life isn't a video game! You can't really cheat out of living and life.

We were all suppose to go to the casino together. At first, we weren't going to go. And Josh goes "Oh, I didn't really want to gamble anyways. Couldn't Rich's (my bf) dad give us money to rent video games?" I COULDN"T BELIEVE THAT HE SAID THAT! My bf's dad was giving us money to go to the casino, not to rent video games. We ended up going to the casino but we didn't bring Josh because we knew that he wouldn't be in the mood and he would be in a bad mood.

We're just tired of him acting this way. He needs to grow up. He acts like a 12 year old and he never listens to us or wants to take our advice. Don't get me wrong, we love him dearly and he is our friend and we're doing what we can to help him. But he just won't listen. Sometimes we just want to smack him around to get some sense knocked into him but he would take it the wrong way. I don't know what to do. We want to help him but he just never listens and it makes us so mad that he thinks we have it easy when he's the one that does.

Thanks for listening. Sorry for this post being so long. I'm just upset that he never listens to us and stuff. What do you think that we should do? He's been like this for years and years. He hasn't done anything to change.

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Date: 7/24/2003 4:57:00 PM  From Authorid: 53052    sometimes you gotta learn to give up.. i said it last night(about someone else.. i won't say who) that you can ONLY help people who would HELP themselves... you can't force him to do something he doesn't want to do... you can just bluntly tell him to stop complaining.. try this "what do you expect me to do about it?" then tell him to stop complinging when he says nothing i know it's frustrating.... but you shouldn't have to give and give and have someone else reap all the rewards  
Date: 7/24/2003 5:06:00 PM  From Authorid: 3648    I have to agree with Midnightly on this. She has given excellent advice.  
Date: 7/24/2003 5:06:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 53909    Midnightly...Sometimes we want to just give up on him. But it's hard because I know that he really needs us. We're all that he has in real life. It really seems like he's not willing to go out and help himself but instead of help going to him. Does that make any sense?  
Date: 7/24/2003 5:11:00 PM  From Authorid: 8278    sounds like midnightly gave you excellent advice. there is only so much you can do for a person. they have to want it for themselves. if he doesn't want to better himself, then you can't force him. it's hard, but sometimes all you can do is step back. best of luck. (hugs)  
Date: 7/24/2003 5:14:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 53909    Grey Eyed Girl...I agree too. She always gives such wonderful advice. She is good! LOL! I'm hiding right now from Josh online. I just don't feel like talking to him right this moment.  
Date: 7/24/2003 5:15:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 53909    Cage...I think that he's comfortable in living in the place he is right now since he hasn't really done anything other than whinning and conplaining. And maybe he likes the attention and wants everyone to feel sorry for him.  
Date: 7/24/2003 5:15:00 PM  From Authorid: 59385    Sorry to say he probably will never change,plus I think he is in a type of depression and sometimes video games help with a type of release in a way.Wish i could help or suggest something more to help the situation,good luck and I hope it gets better for himI have my Atari 2600,Nes,Snes,Nintendo64,Playstation 1 and 2,I love my video games very much if not more than him..lol.good luck  
Date: 7/24/2003 5:15:00 PM  From Authorid: 53052    he wants things but he doesn't want to do the leg work to get them... i had a friend like this... we had a bit of a falling out... it's not worth the stress you put yourself under because they don't appreciate what your doing for them....ant that makes you feel helples... but they are ungreatful  
Date: 7/24/2003 5:16:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 53909    Midnightly...For once, I wish that he would appreicate what we have done and how we tried to help him. This has been going on for the longest time. Ever since I've known him which has been over 3 years.  
Date: 7/24/2003 5:18:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 53909    White Dragon...I feel that he's not going to change either. I know that he's depressed and we try to help him. He's been a video game player ever since he was real young.  
Date: 7/24/2003 5:19:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 53909    White Dragon...I love video games also and arcade games. We have soooo many game systems but we don't play them as much as josh. LOL!  
Date: 7/24/2003 5:33:00 PM  From Authorid: 53052    punky you just have to give up... call him a lost case...don't keep going outta your way for him maybe then he will realise it... but i must add this is part of the reason why my child will never have a game system  
Date: 7/24/2003 5:49:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 53909    Midnightly...I also think that his mom should do something about the way he acts. It doesn't seem like she does much but that's my opinion. I think the next time we talk to josh we will honestly tell him how we feel. It's just getting way too old.  
Date: 7/24/2003 6:08:00 PM  From Authorid: 53052    well unfortuntly his mom can't do too much about him because he is an adult(she could kick him out but that is a whole nother issue)  
Date: 7/24/2003 8:24:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 53909    Midnightly...That's true too. She also has some problems with herself also and she needs someone to take care of her. But yea, that's another story. LOL! He is old enough and he should be on his own now.  
Date: 7/24/2003 10:25:00 PM  From Authorid: 62146    Well this seems anoying but my advise for you is to be bit more hard on him so he understands. And everytime he complains remind him of what he has and what you guys must put up with. He must grow up he has a temper as you said people who are like that do tend to be a bit hard to change though. Dose he have a past like did he have rough child hood you might have to see thing from point of view but if he is just a big baby then well your just going to have to tell him of for it.

*Cosmic Freak*
  
Date: 7/24/2003 10:49:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 53909    Cosmic Freak...He didn't have that bad of a childhood. His father left them when he was younger but they all hated his father anyways and could care less. He also has ADD and I think maybe it might have something to do with it, maybe not. He has been seeing a doctor about his bad temper but it doesn't seem like it's doing any good for him at all. He hasn't change or wants to change. When we find the right time, we will have a serious talk with him.  

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