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Downloading Mp3s off the web

  Author: 62196  Category:(Debate) Created:(6/9/2003 6:39:00 PM)
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After skimming through this section, I didn't notice anything on this so I decided to post. Anyway, do you think it is okay to download Mp3s off the internet? Even though it's illegal it isn't exactly the most strictly enforced law, and many people do it. Do you also think it is okay to use Peer to Peer programs like Kazaa? <:ShadowShade:>

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Date: 6/9/2003 6:48:00 PM  From Authorid: 32193    heck yeah LOL i dont see why its illegal... lol.. people r still buyin their c.ds  
Date: 6/9/2003 6:52:00 PM  From Authorid: 45630    I think that people should have to pay a monthly or yearly subscription for unlimited downloads so that the artists do get some financial benefit. It is their music remember and their creativity has to give them some gain.  
Date: 6/9/2003 6:53:00 PM  From Authorid: 45630    by the way snow princess it is illegal because of copyright infringement. It isn't illegal for you to download the material but it is for the prgrom your doing it on to make money out of it and not give any to the artist.  
Date: 6/9/2003 6:54:00 PM  From Authorid: 45630    sorry I meant program!  
Date: 6/9/2003 6:56:00 PM  From Authorid: 16845    I agree with kurt....I think they should all just charge a REASONABLE monthly fee for unlimited downloads/burns..that way I can stop hearing about the riaa *Is that right?* taking people to court and trying to pass laws through congress.....  
Date: 6/9/2003 7:09:00 PM  From Authorid: 53052    i'm fine with it.... i think record companies make too much anyways!!  
Date: 6/9/2003 7:11:00 PM  From Authorid: 53052    they tried to inforce the pay plan through napster and people refused to pay and then they left and found another "free" at the moment they have launched a bunch of new sites that you pay a small fee(something like 2 bux) to download off thier site and a list of songs all approved by the authors...  
Date: 6/9/2003 7:18:00 PM  From Authorid: 57404    I don't think so. I mean, I don't buy a cd now, unless I can download as many songs that are on their cd. If I like it, I will buy the cd. If not I don't buy the cd.. and delete most of the songs off my computer cause they take up space. I have bought more cd's since I started using Kazza than I did before I started using them. God Bless  
Date: 6/9/2003 7:27:00 PM  From Authorid: 10722    I download music and then some. I get all my retail software for free.   
Date: 6/9/2003 7:48:00 PM  From Authorid: 36766    yep, it's fine to me and I'll continue doing it until all the sharing programs are no longer around...if record companies would lower prices of cds, then many of us wouldn't need to d/l all the music  
Date: 6/9/2003 8:00:00 PM  From Authorid: 27270    This is a tough one for me. See, I don't download simply because I don't have the ability (my puter is an old laptop and I'm just happy to be able to get online, lol!) but even if I were to have access, ripping off the record company is one thing (hey what goes around comes around, right?) but I wouldn't feel right ripping off my favorite artists, like say Pearl Jam who always have awesome rareties floating around for trade. At the same time, as long as it's "out of print" I don't think the band minds their music being traded, but they DO care, if the track is available for sale  
Date: 6/9/2003 8:05:00 PM  From Authorid: 16849    Well, most people who have Kazaa or WinMX also have CD burners and therefor are not buying the artists CD's. Although I believe it might not be right, I love it and I would hate to see my WinMX go. I think there are too many of these peer to peer programs for anything to be done. Once one goes down, 3 will come up. But I guess it wouldn't bother me too much if they were all shut down, I already have every song I could ever dream of downloaded onto my computer.  
Date: 6/9/2003 8:39:00 PM  From Authorid: 24732    File sharing isn't illegal, but it is if you start selling it. I once figured out the cost and time effort it took me to burn cd's, and decided $5-$7 made me a nice profit. But I haven't sold to anyone in a long time. If you feel like you are cheating the artists take a look at how much they cheat you out of money with a cd that costs $15. Even if there were programs you paid for to get access to music, people would still get it for free because you can e-mail mp3 files. I certainly think it's ok LOL, or I wouldn't have over 300 mp3 files.  
Date: 6/9/2003 9:21:00 PM  From Authorid: 3321    Its getting more strictly enforced...they've started confiscating student computers at universities and homes for it...scary. I just love how the artists and labels overcharge us royally to enjoy music, and then when we find a way to enjoy AND save money (as though they don't have enough), they attack us...  
Date: 6/9/2003 9:44:00 PM  From Authorid: 21867    Quite frankly, theres NO WAY I'm gonna go pay $30NZ for a CD with one or two good songs on it...I mean, at best thats $15 a song...so WHO is really getting ripped off here?? Nah...I'll download thanks...Peace,  
Date: 6/9/2003 10:26:00 PM  From Authorid: 53052    may i also add the fact that every time you make a cd you are being charged royalties by the company?? if you have ever bought a blank cd recently you will notice that they have charged an extra tax slapped ontop (5-10 cents per cd) what is to make up for the downfall of people not buying cds anymore...  
Date: 6/10/2003 9:38:00 AM  From Authorid: 54987    Well actually it's not illegal to share music as long as you don't do it for profit. What do you consider 'sharing' is? Nobody is selling the music, and some of it is poor quality anyway and often isn't the full piece.  
Date: 6/10/2003 9:41:00 AM  From Authorid: 54987    Midnightly! This tax you talk of. I haven't heard of that. Where does the tax go to. How can it possibly help the music industry or the artists?  
Date: 6/10/2003 11:46:00 AM  From Authorid: 53052    sometimes the tax is worked into the price... right now it goes into a huge pot what is supose to be given out equally to the record companies what are supose to give it to the artists...  
Date: 6/10/2003 4:06:00 PM  From Authorid: 10722    The RIAA website will receive countless numbers of DOS attacks on July 3rd. Be sure to check it out then to see the effects. I'll have nothing to do with it however, I only got this from a source.  
Date: 6/10/2003 5:03:00 PM  From Authorid: 61104    Yes I do.  
Date: 6/11/2003 8:48:00 AM  From Authorid: 59163    the record industry is a crock anyways. back in the old days you could buy records for less than a buck. inflation has gotten to the point where you have to pay 20 dollars for the same album now.  
Date: 6/11/2003 9:01:00 AM  From Authorid: 25828    i use bearshare, i'll never buy another cd. i've recorded HUNDREDS..not only do i get the music, i get the free books and software/applications..i've saved thousands in free software and games. BTW, they just ruled that the actual P2P programs like kazaa and bearshare are not illegal - since it is the people sharing p2p....they'll never be able to enforce it.  
Date: 6/11/2003 10:20:00 AM  From Authorid: 25828    kurtvedder if your description of what is illegal and isn't is right, then bearshare is TOTALLY legal! 8-) isn't that great..they charge absolutely nothing - and everything is available there - all of the iraqi things that we didn't see on the news..they're on bearshare - daniel pearl's murder, the american POW's murders..etc..everything in the world you could want - is FREE on bearshare.  
Date: 6/11/2003 12:22:00 PM  From Authorid: 15070    I have no problem with it....  
Date: 6/14/2003 7:23:00 AM  From Authorid: 50435    First off, I don't understand why all these bands and whoever are getting so upset over P2P file sharing. It's a proven fact that the performers make small beans off of record sales. It's the industry that profits from it. That's why band merchandise is so expensive - it's the only money that goes directly into the band's pockets. Second, it's about time. For years we've been stuck buying albums with one hit single bunched with mediocre fillers. And we've had to dish out good coin for it. In essence, we've been getting ripped off in the past. And the recording industry was well aware of this. All they had to do was come up with one good, radio-friendly song and they're makin' millions. This led to poxy albums being made. Very little effort was made. It was a cash cow. Now, that we're able to just download the single song that we like off of the net, they're in a position that they don't want to be in. We, the consumers, are on top now. We have the power. The record labels are now forced to put the pressure on their artists to actually create albums worth purchasing. It's no longer feasible to put out one-song-plus-filler crap albums. If there's something worth buying, people will buy it. I download entire albums. If it has enough good tunes on it, I'll buy it. Although the artists don't make much off of record sales, they do need to sell albums or they lose their contracts. So they need support. And you can tell who cares. Bands like Tool and Matthew Good Band put out quality albums. Tool's self-made artwork and music is just worth owning. Matt Good just put out a solo album that has an exclusive accompanying website that has exclusive downloads and whatnot. You need the card that comes with the CD to access the site. Also, he has a promotion for his current tour in which 20 people from each leg of the tour can attend a private session with him. But you need the card. Time to get back to quality and perks. We need a reason to spend money on the album. If I am not given a reason to buy an album then I guess I'll just have to get it elsewhere...which is actually a lot easier than going out and buying the album in the store.  
Date: 6/14/2003 8:06:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 62196    I agree with you Gallytuck
Date: 6/21/2003 2:02:00 AM  From Authorid: 62085    lol kazaa, morpheus, all of them are infested with trojans, worms, spyware etc, some of it installed by the music industry to discourage u from swapping..  
Date: 6/21/2003 7:55:00 AM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 62196    I use Kazaa lite

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