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Judge Denies Woman's Right to Wear Veil in Photo ~*KG*~

  Author:  6358  Category:(News) Created:(6/6/2003 1:06:00 PM)
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Judge rejects driver's license veil request

(CNN) -- A Florida judge Friday rejected a woman's request to have her face mostly covered by a veil in the photograph on her state driver's license, the state attorney general's office told CNN.

The 18-page ruling was issued by Circuit Court Judge Janet C. Thorpe in Orlando.

Sultaana Freeman had testified that a state order requesting that she remove her veil -- a niqab, which covers all of her face except her eyes -- infringed on her religious freedom.

"It's totally changed my life and I really feel like a prisoner in my home," said Freeman in testimony before the court last week.

Judge Thorpe ruled that although Freeman held a sincere religious belief that she should wear the niqab in front of all strangers, she did not prove that "the photo requirement itself substantially burdens her right to free exercise of religion," or that the momentarily lifting the veil in a private room for a photo taken by a female officer would be such a burden.

On the other hand, the judge said in the ruling, the state did show that "having access to photo image identification is essential to promote" the state's "compelling interest in protecting the public."

Freeman initially was allowed to wear a veil in her driver's license photograph, as she was allowed to do for a license she got when living in Illinois, but then was asked to retake the photo, showing her face. When she refused, the state revoked her license.

Lawyers for the state argued that the case touched on public safety issues, saying a driver's license showing only a covered face would hinder law enforcement officials.

The Associated Press reported that Florida Assistant Attorney General Jason Vail argued that having an easily identifiable photo on a driver's license is a matter of public safety.

"It's the primary method of identification in Florida and the nation," Vail said in a report from the AP. "I don't think there can be any doubt there is a public safety interest."

Freeman's attorneys argued that state officials didn't care that she wore a veil in her Florida driver's license photo until after the September 11 attacks of 2001 -- an allegation the state denies, the AP reported.

Freeman, a convert to Islam previously known as Sandra Kellar, wore her veil for the photo on the Florida driver's license she obtained after moving to the state in 2001, according to The Associated Press.

Nine months later, the AP reported, she received a letter from the state warning that it would revoke her license unless she returned for a photo with her face uncovered. Freeman claimed her religious beliefs require her to keep her head and face covered out of modesty and that her faith prohibits her face from being photographed, according to the AP.

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Date: 6/6/2003 1:10:00 PM  From Authorid: 60945    wow! I just don't understand why their religion requires that they keep their faces covered... *shakes head*  
Date: 6/6/2003 1:12:00 PM  From Authorid: 18527    I can understand the religion thing, however government laws are laws, either show your face or forfeit your right to drive!!  
Date: 6/6/2003 1:14:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 6358    Kethria I agree. I know that in my state of MN, they tell us that driving isn't a right, it's a priviledge.  
Date: 6/6/2003 1:19:00 PM  From Authorid: 53284    There is no requirement to wear a veil. There are many muslim women in many countries who choose not to wear a veil. This person was an ex-con also. She had been busted for (I think) child abuse. I don't think she of all people should be able to disguise her face for a license photo.  
Date: 6/6/2003 1:20:00 PM  From Authorid: 18527    She abused a foster child...  
Date: 6/6/2003 1:45:00 PM  From Authorid: 44321    I say taking the veil off for a picture that identifies you,and allows you to drive, is not wrong at all,how many people will really see what sits in your wallet?She can walk around everyday with her veil on ,nobody tells her to remove it then,she could have compromised for her D.L photo,they said it would have been her and the woman photographer alone in the room for her picture,so no men to see her unveiled.I often see the women that wear the veils lift them off when it gets too hot,so what is her problem??  
Date: 6/6/2003 1:46:00 PM  From Authorid: 62191    I don't really find it that big of a deal at all. She should have just removed the **** thing and just got it over with. It's not like it'd kill her. It was only for a moment. O.o; I understand it's her religion, but laws are laws. ~deadstar
Date: 6/6/2003 2:16:00 PM  From Authorid: 46530    I say that to allow her to wear a veil would show inverse discrimination against those that DONT wear such things, and if she were allowed to I would apply with a photo of my face completely obscured. But then what would be the point of it for ID purposes anyways...  
Date: 6/6/2003 2:30:00 PM  From Authorid: 48809    I agree with the judge... wouldn't any one of us who decided to cover our faces and were spotted by the cops ... be told to "knock it off?" You betcha!  
Date: 6/6/2003 2:38:00 PM  From Authorid: 28193    When my license is up, I'm going down to the DMV with a brown paper bag over my head.  
Date: 6/6/2003 3:31:00 PM  From Authorid: 36766    if she wants to be an American and have a license, then she should look like the rest of us in our pictures, nothing covering the face...I would like to cover my face though, it's spooky...lol @ Golden Taxi  
Date: 6/6/2003 3:36:00 PM  From Authorid: 15394    well good! common sense prevails!  
Date: 6/6/2003 3:41:00 PM  From Authorid: 15228    She could have a female at the DMV take her photo and not show the license unless she is pulled over by the police..she could demand a female police officer on the scene to view the photograph..welcome to Judge Kelly's court, case closed.  
Date: 6/6/2003 3:44:00 PM  From Authorid: 24924    I was sure this would be the outcome. I mean, don't you just know that IF this woman were allowed to cover her face, that there would be an awful lot of criminals who would do the same and claim that it was their "religious" belief as well to avoid being identified if they committed a crime? "Gee, officer, that isn't really me; I don't have any idea whose picture that is". *rolls eyes*  
Date: 6/6/2003 4:28:00 PM  From Authorid: 3321    The entire purpose of an ID of any kind is for identification purposes...if you're wearing a veil, that defeats the entire purpose of having identification, nor does this violate any type of religious creed. It is not specifically stated in the Quran that women should wear veils, just that they dress modestly.  
Date: 6/7/2003 11:59:00 AM  From Authorid: 13729    Separation of Church and State, thats the bottom line......Not to mention the fact that I.D's and licenses are for IDENTIFACATION......  
Date: 6/7/2003 7:09:00 PM  From Authorid: 23037    that lady really needs to get a life!  
Date: 6/7/2003 7:16:00 PM  From Authorid: 12341    Finally a Judge with some common sense. The ACLU really disgusts me with this one.  
Date: 6/7/2003 8:46:00 PM  From Authorid: 3125    Oh..So according to her beliefs, she would be committing a great sin if she unveils her face, but it is no great sin to beat a child!  
Date: 6/9/2003 9:17:00 PM  From Authorid: 3321    Well, unveiling is just a belief for her...it is not mentioned in the Quran, in fact if you look at a country such as Iran, they choose not to wear the veils because their society is slightly more modern than say, Saudi Arabia.  
Date: 6/9/2003 9:31:00 PM  From Authorid: 24924    A picture of her without her veil is at this site:
http://www.strangecosmos.com/view.adp?picture_id=10292
  
Date: 6/9/2003 10:07:00 PM  From Authorid: 12341    I agree with Rusure. I have to admit even though I didn't agree with this from the beginning for purely "common sense" reasons, she already had discredited herself and her morals in my book by her prior conviction. SHE abused a foster child. A Child! Her religion is a sham as far I'm concerned. Bottom line, I take her for a shyster, pure and simple. She was out for either money or fame. Either way she got less than she deserves. Regardless, she tried to use Religion as her "personal soap box" and common sense prevailed.  

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