Date: 6/6/2003 11:05:00 AM
From Authorid: 53900
What I meant to say is they should be trusted but once they break the trust it has to be earned back |
Date: 6/6/2003 11:05:00 AM
From Authorid: 53900
In my opinion and this is how I was raised kids who live under their parnet's roof really have no say on where they can or cannot go. They are children and the parent's are raising them, payign for them, caring for them feeding them clothing them etc. I know when a person is young it seems like their parents are the worst people in the world but hopefully when tehy grow up they will realize what they did they did because they care. Now kids should have some freedom and be given trust but once the trust is broken and trust is easily given but once broken it is difficult to earn back. |
Date: 6/6/2003 11:10:00 AM
From Authorid: 53284
When you are raising kids you have the right to intorduce them to religion, as well as set all their social parameters ( who they can hang out with, where they go, what movies they watch etc.) As kids age, they need to learn to be responsible for their own actions. Freedoms are earned by proper behavior and actions. By the time my kids got to HS, they were pretty independent, but they kept us informed as to who they were with and where they were going. I don't really recall having to restrict their activities or interpersonal relationships at that stage of their lives. So the answer is complicated. Yes parents do have the right, but if they have been gradually increasing the kids level of responsibility all along they may not ever have to exercise that right. |
Date: 6/6/2003 11:19:00 AM
From Authorid: 57404
I don't think it is fair or right for a parent to force a child to go to church. I think it is good that the parents give the child the option, tell them about God, and let the child decide what they want. I believe in free will, and that God wants people to come to him of their own free will, not because they were forced. As for what the child does with his or her own money, I feel that it is the parents job to make sure that what they buy isn't something that is bad for them. I agree with Jessica, about the trust. Kids have to be given some trust, until it is broken. As parents we are supposed to shape and form the child, so that they know right from wrong, good from bad, and to make the right choices as much as possible in situations because we can't be there to hold their hand 24/7. Hopefully when they grow up, they will realize, we did it out of love and care for them. As for what kids wear, I think that it shouldn't matter, but unfortunatly it does, people are judged based on what they wear. If you dress goth, you are looked at as someone who is dark, depressed or a devil worshiper and that isn't the case. Heck I dress in black most of the time and I won't touch anything satanic, but it doesn't stop people from thinking the worst. lol And I'm an adult. LOL God Bless |
Date: 6/6/2003 11:23:00 AM
From Authorid: 53284
I do agree with Cherokee Chief in that you can introduce them to religion but you can't force it on them. It all depends upon the age of the "child" that you're talking about. As a person matures there will come a point in time that they can choose their own path with respect to religion. |
Date: 6/6/2003 11:46:00 AM
From Authorid: 53052
on one side yes... parents are supose to mold kids minds... YES i agree parents should have SOME say in what children wear... a parent shouldn't force their child into any form of religion or stop them(unless it's something illegal) |
Date: 6/6/2003 11:50:00 AM
From Authorid: 46527
I agree with everything that Wildbob said! |
Date: 6/6/2003 12:28:00 PM
From Authorid: 61104
I think the parental rights are a tricky thing. A parent has the right tom protect their child if they feel they are in some type of danger. I for one would like my children to go to my religious gatherings but it may not be appropriate at times and then I would keep them from it. I may advise that my child stop hanging around with a certain friend for their own safety but I will not force them to end the friendship. I will choose what my child will not wear as long as he or she is not an adult but I will give them room to express themselves. I would rather my child express themselves thru music or clothing or even peircings rather than try to find themselves using drugs. |
Date: 6/6/2003 1:22:00 PM
From Authorid: 27046
This one is fairly simple for me. My children are not baptised and this choice was made for them to explore religion, ANY religion they choose when they are old enough to do so. When will they be old enough? I would say in their teen years when they will start to question life, death and all that stuff more deeply. That was about the time I started looking into it. They will also have full love and support in the quest for religion, whichever one they choose. As far as rules and regulations go. I believe that a parent should have the right to seperate their kids from others who they may get into trouble with but that doesn't mean that it will happen. Most times no matter how hard you try, you won't seperate them from their friends. That's really not a problem, you just have to reverse the situation and work on making your child more responsible for themselves and learn how to walk away from the peer pressure of a friend. I know one thing, all the people that my mother tried to shelter me from, I ended up learning later on they were no good for me just like she told me anyway..LOL. Parents should be allowed to dictate what they wear, what they buy and what is bought with their own money. All should be followed under the guidelines of the house. If I don't allow my son to buy dirty magazines with his work money, then he shouldn't do it, his money or not because it's my rule and he should respect my rules while living in my house. Until you are self sufficient and supporting yourself entirely and that means getting your own place, not paying me room and board, there are rules you will have to abide by. That's life. |
Date: 6/6/2003 5:40:00 PM
From Authorid: 24845
Hey, when the kid's live under thier parents roof, they don't have the "right" to anything. They are being raised by thier parents and the parents are teaching them the way of the world. Parents aren't being mean to thier kid's when they are saying to thier 13 or 16 year old daughter they can't wear that mini skirt and tummy shirt. That they can't have a peircing or tattoo. The parent's are protecting that child from harm. The harm that an outfit like above worn by a CHILD can bring them. There are boys out there that need to be watched so that they don't get into drugs, gangs (this includes girls) or getting a girl pregnant. SO children need guidance. They need parents, not best friends. We aren't friends to our kids'. We're parents first friends last. We aren't mean to them, we're trying to protect them. |
Date: 6/6/2003 5:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 24845
I'm sorry I forgot about the religion part of the debate. LOL. I think it's the childs' decision to pick the religion. It's the parents decision to show them the way, then to let them decide at an appropriate age. I had to go to church with my mother and I enjoyed it. I wasn't forced to go, I didn't have the beliefs that I learned thrown down my throat. I will let my child's heart decide. It's important to let them go at a age that is right for them. Like 46. LOL just kidding. The time will come that they will know and so will I. |
Date: 6/6/2003 6:15:00 PM
From Authorid: 54532
Pretty much all those applie to me except the religious thing. |
Date: 6/6/2003 10:40:00 PM
From Authorid: 22080
my dad tried to dictate what i wear and what i do with my money, he found a big heap of burning clothes in the yard and me walking to the store, didnt come home for a month and only reason was cause his first sergeant got word and he sent a full on search party after me |
Date: 6/6/2003 10:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 22080
and i honestly think parents go over board, my attire is not showing any skin and its not inappropriate so why does it offend you, ya know i could be dressing worse, my ol man got embarassed cause i had a pair of plaid pants that i made but yet my brother walks around sagging, kind of odd, |
Date: 6/7/2003 12:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 30051
Parents have every right to all of the questions you asked above. Untill they turn 18 |
Date: 6/7/2003 4:38:00 PM
From Authorid: 61999
So long as they're in my house, they live by my rules. Or, they can move out and get a job, lol. I believe young people need privacy but when they're under 10, I think not. I think alot of us were raised this way, and we all turned out pretty well, if you ask me. We all grow up and have our own lives; we have the ability to choose what we want in the long run. ~~The Mighty DreamGyrl~~ |
Date: 6/7/2003 6:41:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 52140
I didn't post this because Im a rebelling teenager and want to get out from others' authority. I just wanted to know what USM thought about the subject (mainly the religion part). |
Date: 6/7/2003 7:02:00 PM
From Authorid: 53054
Im a teenager myself, but from my point of opinion I believe that if a parent wishes a child to attend church, then they should tkae the child, however when the child gets old enough to make there own decissions, they should be able to choose whether to go to church or not! When I was younger i was taken to church, but stoped when i got to about 9 or 10, however now that i am nearly 17 i have chosen on my own free will to follow my religion and attend church when ever possible! I believe that a child is old enough to make there own decission about religion when they reach there teens, whether the parent agrees with it or not! As for the other stuff, parents give children pocket money, if the child is too young the parent might be able to put some in the bank and give a little to the child to spent on normally (lollies) however again when they get to a teen they usually know what they need to money for, sometimes its not for the right reason, but if the parent continues to give the money to the child, then the child can spend it however they wish (me being a teen and all), however as for clothes and stuff mny parents give up on there teens and stop buying them clothes when they get to a certain age. If the teen gets there own money then they can do what they want with it! As for a childs friends...YES the parent does have a right to say that they dont like a certain so and so, however there is no possible way that the parent can stop the child from hanging around with so and so at school, so it is almost impossible. Children will do what they want whether the parent agrees with it or not once they get to a certain age. I think thats it! *hugz* |
Date: 6/7/2003 7:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 22080
what if your parents dont provide for you, only thing they provide is a roof over your head and dinner, not any other meals |
Date: 6/8/2003 3:39:00 PM
From Authorid: 54247
Yes to all questions. You may consider it a "right" but actually it is the parents responsibility. Actually today at 71 and looking back, I am so happy that my family was very strict. I always knew they "cared enough" to protect me. And, I always knew my day was coming when I would leave home. What I didn't really know is how expensive and difficult living on my own would be. RAT |
Date: 6/8/2003 6:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 22080
ive lived on the streets, it is hard living on your own, even if it was a month you have to figure out your way of getting food or where your going to sleep next and you better know how to defend yourself or your butt is gone and you'll get beat,robbed,mugged,stabbed,raped(regardless of gender) or killed |
Date: 6/10/2003 8:55:00 PM
From Authorid: 3321
Most of it, yes, the parents have every right due to life experience and age. If you're under 18, your parents bear the extensive responsibility of your upbringing, and if they believe that doing something a certain way will make you a better person or be good for you in the long run, then that is what they need to do. |
Date: 6/12/2003 6:57:00 AM
From Authorid: 61999
Gee, Jester. That's horrible! ~~The Mighty DreamGyrl, who feels bad that her fellow debater had to go thru such a thing~~ |
Date: 6/12/2003 7:43:00 AM
From Authorid: 62118
Parents choosing your religion is like them choosing your fav colour or food. Religion is a personal thing. |