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Date: 5/10/2003 11:09:00 PM
From Authorid: 18928
i agree. i try to live my life to my standards, whether they met others standards or not. and i feel good about my choices. good post.  |
Date: 5/10/2003 11:11:00 PM
From Authorid: 51671
Yep. Nobody's got any right to judge (even Jesus himself said: "Let him who is without sin throw the first stone?!" And He didn't "throw the stone" either. ... Big huggs!  |
Date: 5/10/2003 11:14:00 PM
From Authorid: 8555
Your right the only Judge is God, and we are not to judge others, just love them. My favorite line is hate the sin, love the sinner! I come from a non-christian household, being the only Christin, I learned that if I judge everything they do, they will just see me a a big jerk thinking that somehow I am better than them, but instead I just love them, despite what thay say or do, so they can see the love of Jesus through my example. God Bless  |
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Date: 5/10/2003 11:15:00 PM
From Authorid: 8555
Besides, I've see bothHarry Potter movies, and I thought they were great! |
Date: 5/10/2003 11:19:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15319
8555, its good for a Wiccan like me to see a Christian like you. It renews my faith in you guys  Besides, there are some very hypocritical Christians out there, like one I know who refuses to watch the Harry Potter movies but thinks its ok to french kiss and make out with a guy you just started going out with...go figure.  |
Date: 5/10/2003 11:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 30229
I agree with you... I am Christian but there are just way TOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many people out there ready to judge one for what they SEE instead of what is inside of them... the INSIDE of them is what is important anyway. NO ONE should tell you what to do or what to read, I know I wouldnt do that...  |
Date: 5/11/2003 12:08:00 AM
From Authorid: 30647
Yeah that lady was pretty rude to say that to you.  |
Date: 5/11/2003 12:11:00 AM
From Authorid: 15675
that lady had no right to say that to u n im sorry it happened! Yeah not all christians are that way lol just like not all wiccans are like harry potter lol!!! Obviously this lady isnt a well versed christian as mentioned. If it were me I woulda just said sometin smart allec lol...  |
Date: 5/11/2003 12:52:00 AM
From Authorid: 55967
Yes, this Harry Potter deal has gotten way out of hand with many people, and that lady did not have any right to tell you what you "should" read or "shouldn't." It was beyond rude; it was plain ignorance. Many people feel that way about many things, and seem to forget the true teachings of Jesus. They are full of self pride and judgement. Now, with that said, I want to say one more thing that popped in my head when I first read your title. "...let HIM tell me, not you!" I personally believe God tells us all, everyday---in fact, he screams it to us a hundred times a day; we just don't recognize his voice, which is in our negative emotions. We always try to remedy our plights with more temporary human antidotes instead of stopping and taking a good look at what we're doing, which is what we are supposed to do; our experiences are supposed to teach us lessons about life. However, it is all personal, and no one has the right to step in and speak to you in behalf of God. ~GypsyHawk~  |
Date: 5/11/2003 12:56:00 AM
From Authorid: 42945
I try to treat others the way I would like them to treat me...and that certainly is not in judging anybody!!!! hugs  |
Date: 5/11/2003 1:59:00 AM
From Authorid: 13886
I'm a Christian and I see no harm in reading Harry Potter. That's ridiculous. The real problem with many Christians is they have to jam their beliefs down everyones throats. The Bible tells us to try and bring other's to Christianity, but also to be tolerant and let others believe what they want.  |
Date: 5/11/2003 2:11:00 AM
From Authorid: 3125
You wouldn't want to see what I would do with those Harry Potter books..hehe  |
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Date: 5/11/2003 2:44:00 AM
From Authorid: 13886
Sorry, had to do that. Lol. |
Date: 5/11/2003 2:44:00 AM
From Authorid: 22080
wow i agree whole heartidly(sp?) |
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Date: 5/11/2003 2:44:00 AM
From Authorid: 13886
Rusure she wouldn't? Lol. |
Date: 5/11/2003 2:45:00 AM
From Authorid: 13886
Wholeheartedly  |
Date: 5/11/2003 4:39:00 AM
From Authorid: 46527
I think there are some people who are genuinely trying to 'save you from yourself' when they make comments about what you should or should not be doing. It's no good telling these peope that come judgement day you'll find out if you lived a good or bad life as they are only trying to help (y'know, like a momma says 'don't touch that, it'll burn you). Unfortunately there are also WAY too many people who just HAVE to try and tell us how to live our lives....and these are the ones that make the innocent ones look bad.  |
Date: 5/11/2003 7:03:00 AM
From Authorid: 53900
I would have looked at her and told her those without sin should cast the first stone  |
Date: 5/11/2003 9:36:00 AM
From Authorid: 61104
You go!! I agree with you. No one has the right to judge anyone else on what they do and condemn them to0 anything. The truth is they are not perfect either and I am sure they have doene things that are questionable and they need to take a good long hard look in the mirror before they start condemning others. I thin it is rediculous to condemn someone for reading a book in the first place that is the most rediculous thing I have ever heard. I think some ppl just have too much time on their hands. Get a life is what I say to those ppl. Again you go!!BB  |
Date: 5/11/2003 9:37:00 AM
From Authorid: 52140
1st of all why would you wanna read that? I've read the Harry Potter books (long before I have this opinion of them) and they were pretty boring. I don't see why everyone likes them. Also, God does have "ambassadors" on earth. By the way, if it was me, I would have wacked you with a yo-yo Bible. Just kidding. I wouldn't have said anything.  |
Date: 5/11/2003 9:40:00 AM
From Authorid: 1055
PREACH ON BROTHA!! I agree with you whole-heartedly. I absolute hate it when people bring God into any arguement to try to prove their point. You aren't privvy to God's thoughts and if you are then you are dead and can't argue against me in the first place. I just wish that more people would figure this out for themselves.  |
Date: 5/11/2003 12:01:00 PM
From Authorid: 11240
Hi, TDA. I just made a comment to another post that touches on this subject and I will pretty much say the same thing here. There is no way in this world that you can stop people from "making judgements" for all that means is that someone is using their mind in forming an opinion. Her opinion of what you were doing is just that: HER OPINION. Because she chose to make it public in letting you know what she thought obviously gave YOU the right to let US all know what you thought of her (your opinion, aka, your judgement). What she said was NOT your Judgement (e.g., "You WILL burn in hell", because first of all NO ONE has the right to make that Judgement but Our Judge, and second of all, even if she had made such a proclamation/judgement it is NOT (neccessarily the Judgement you will actually receive. With that explanation in mind, could any one of you that are upset that this woman made such an opinion/judgment of TDA (including you, yourself, TDA) RATIONALIZE for us here why you feel it is o.k. for YOU to judge this woman publicly? Peace and God Bless.  |
Date: 5/11/2003 1:53:00 PM
From Authorid: 54987
What did you say to them? I must admit that I find it hard to speak my truth sometimes. I try to, but sometimes I just don't bother if I know it would alienate people. I am more prone to keep my silence when reprimanded by older people, but I was taught to respect age, even though ignorance knows no age barriers. I used to be mad at myself and then I realised it doesn't matter. I can descriminate who I share my beliefs with.. it's OK. I now put myself in their shoes and and I see that, given the same circumstances and upbringing, I might have had the same narrow mindedness. As for representatives, most religions claim that their priests and such like are representatives of their God.  |
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Date: 5/11/2003 5:30:00 PM
From Authorid: 54707
Yes, people who do that do get very annoying. They try to push their religion and what they belive on others. Now as for your question Deb, she was not asked to share her opinion. She was completely rude for stating what she said. Everyone who has posted her was asked what they thought. They were asked to share their opinions. That's what justifies it. That's what makes it diferent from what she did. -AcidStorm  |
Date: 5/11/2003 6:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 20069
exactly. in fact I'm sure God doesn't want people like that speaking for him, or any of us for that matter.  |
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Date: 5/11/2003 6:21:00 PM
From Authorid: 3125
This author seems to be upset because of a very bold statement some lady said to her while she was reading a Harry Potter book. I wonder if this author understands that most of those who believe in God also believes that the Bible is His sacred Word and the Bible contains treasures more valuable than any other thing on earth? I don't believe she understands this or she wouldn't have said the following on another post. "I don't think you'd like to see what I'd do to your Bible." I think it would be easier for me to overlook the lady at Wal Marts than it would be to overlook someone who just told me that they would like to destroy the Bible. |
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Date: 5/11/2003 6:31:00 PM
From Authorid: 54987
The key word here is BELIEVE. OK? I don't care what anyone believes... it's what I believe that matters. This woman had no right to talk to this lady that way... no right whatsoever. You believe what you like... but don't impose your beliefs on others.... got that? |
Date: 5/11/2003 7:29:00 PM
From Authorid: 29806
Well, don't you know that god loves you unless you read material other than the Bible? Repent now sinner! lol. Blessed Be. -ID-  |
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Date: 5/11/2003 9:05:00 PM
From Authorid: 3125
Koolade..I don't agree with what the lady said either, but what I am saying is that this author is also guilty of 'blurting out' hurtful remarks. Neither should have said what they did. |
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Date: 5/11/2003 9:14:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15319
Deb, when this lady made this comment, I didn't say a word, just shook my head at her. Also, I'd like for you to point out where I judged ANYONE, this lady included, in this post. Telling me I'm angering God lets me know that apparently the speaker knows God well enough to know what makes him/her mad. Rusure, first of all, I'm a HE, and about the comment I made on another post? Where did I EVER say I'd destroy the Bible? I do not believe the words 'Destroy', 'Damage' 'Burn' or 'Harm' are anywhere on my comment, so it seems to me that your inventing words for me. I understand very well that some people chose to believe the Bible is Gods word, fine and good. But there are some people, like me, who have had others attempt to cram it down my throat, so I hope you understand my slight dislike for it. |
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Date: 5/11/2003 9:51:00 PM
From Authorid: 3125
DA..On the post titled Christianity and Paganism you stated "Oh and Alisha? I don't think you'd like to see what I'd do to your Bible." Whatever it is that you would like to do with it doesn't sound as if it would be a good thing. I am simply pointing out that no matter where you go there will always be people who says rude things whether they meant to be rude or not. |
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Date: 5/11/2003 10:11:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15319
I agree, Rusure. I have discovered this myself on many occasions |
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Date: 5/12/2003 11:28:00 AM
From Authorid: 54987
I didn't know you were a lady! Oops sorry. |
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Date: 5/12/2003 11:36:00 AM
From Authorid: 54987
I mean, I didn't know you were a man! Oops again. |
Date: 5/12/2003 12:03:00 PM
From Authorid: 30051
Amen Good post  |
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Date: 5/12/2003 12:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 11240
So, let me get this straight, AcidStorm: You are allowed to judge because someone else judged TDA as told in this story here. That sounds like "Judge not lest (unless) ye be judged." It's o.k. for non-Christians to use that standard but not Christians? Hmmmm. How utterly incongruent. TDA, take a re-look at paragraphs 3 and 4 in your original post. God Bless. |
Date: 5/12/2003 1:33:00 PM
From Authorid: 62023
Oh jeez, the folks out there that spout the "evilness" of Harry Potter books just amaze me. It's just fantasy - no better or worse than any fantasy book written for the past 2000 years or more. Would she have made the same comment if you picked up a book on Greek Mythology, Beowulf or Shakespeare? Probably not. Even the Catholic Church has come out to say there is nothing wrong with those books (like I was worried about that). "It's only a movie" (or book or song). Peace, Cassi  |
Date: 5/12/2003 4:12:00 PM
From Authorid: 41067
I know what I would have done. Turned to her, dropped my jaw in amazement and said "Lord God! I had no idea you had taken mortal form and come to judge us! That is you, isn't it?" I hate when people force thier OPINIONS (cos thats all they are) onto others.  |
Date: 5/12/2003 5:07:00 PM
From Authorid: 58030
uh rusure i don't think that the author was reffering to just that lady, and i think the author was joking around, and the author of the other post knew that, i know what your reffering to, the author was reffering to a lot of people who do things like that, and not just with harry potter either! I have seen a lot of people (not nessecarily here, we love each other too much here) tell others that they're "going to be punished eternally in a land of fire" or "making god angry" for what they're doing, you know what they can keep their comments to themselves, if they have an opinion, go ahead and keep it, i don't need it, i have plenty of my own, i do not need anyone telling me that they think what i'm doing is soooo morally wrong that i'm going to be punished eternally.  |
Date: 5/12/2003 7:44:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
*eye roll*, I remember a post I wrote, about the time my son & I were waiting for a bus, and our ir-conditioner had gone out. This was like, July in Florida & we were dying. So, I was running around in a one-piece bathing suit & shorts. Not Daisy-Dukes either. And, we were near a Christian-run food pantry. Anyway, two ladies came out & started to scol me, IN FRONT OF MY 10-year old son, about how "I would cause men to sin, because of the way I was dressed", and, I swear this is true, "I would cause men to think about rape". Now, these were old, Grandma-age ladies, and so I smiled & said nothing (I am polite), but on the bus, I explined to my son, their behavior was wrong, and why.This Lady, in Wal-Mart, had NO buisness saying anything. And, the idea that she knew he mind of God, is sad, to me. I would think the Christian God, is a LOT bigger than a child's book. I love the Harry Potter books, and they helped my son, who is dyslexic, to get interested in reading again. So, I think they are a blessing. Sorry this is so long, You handled this well......  |
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Date: 5/12/2003 9:02:00 PM
From Authorid: 55967
LSG, that wasn't only wrong toward you, it was a wrong assumption about guys, too. Definitely not all guys think of rape when noticing an attractive woman in shorts or a bathing suit. ~GypsyHawk~ |
Date: 5/12/2003 10:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 51979
While I do not agree with the Harry Potter part, the bible is very clear in many areas to what is right, and to what is wrong. Therefore because it is the Divine word of God, through my understanding of the Holy Bible I can understand some of what is right and wrong. When I see a fellow Christian in sin the bible tells me to confront him, well how I am I suppose to if God is the only one who will judge him? That said there are very clear lines the God gave us on some topics. As far as telling a stranger these things, that I do not agree with or understand why anyone would so so rudely bold.  |
Date: 5/12/2003 10:30:00 PM
From Authorid: 12341
There has to be a "know it all" in every "bunch", I really don't worry aabout it. "Worry about your own backyard" is my motto.  |
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Date: 5/12/2003 11:24:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15319
LSG, I remember your post that your speaking of. Its amazing isn't it, how some of the righteous turn self-righteous in exactly 1/10000th of a second. |
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Date: 5/12/2003 11:28:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15319
Oh, and the "You wouldn't want to see what I'd do to your Bible" comment? That was directed towards Jesus Freak, whom I both know and love very much outside of USM. We have managed to become very good friends despite our differences, and she knows I'd never say such a thing seriously. |
Date: 5/13/2003 12:56:00 AM
From Authorid: 16671
Gee, I get just as angry when people tell me I shouldnt read the bible. Gets old dont it?  |
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Date: 5/13/2003 1:01:00 AM
From Authorid: 16671
But the DA you get mad for what this woman said to you, because of her beliefs, and by the way, I think she was wrong about saying GOD will be mad at you. BUT you get mad, write this post and then turn around and say, """You wouldn't want to see what I'd do to your Bible" ANd once again, Its amazing isn't it, how some of the righteous turn self-righteous in exactly 1/10000th of a second." YOUR sounding pretty self righeous your self right now, so LET those that are without BEING self righteouse cast the first stone. Oh and I saw lsgs post on that also. AND I'm amazed that someone would say that to her. Sorry I just cant see it. |
Date: 5/13/2003 8:33:00 AM
From Authorid: 17204
I love the title to your post.  |
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Date: 5/13/2003 9:25:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15319
Guess what FirstBorn? It happens ALL the time, wether you see it or believe it. I would like for you to demonstrate how I'm being self righteous, I fail to see it. I was not mad at this woman for her beliefs, I was mad at this woman for the sheer ignorance she displayed in attempting to tell me how Gods mind works. And for the last time, the Bible comment was jokingly directed towards Jesus Freak, why is this so hard for people to see? |
Date: 5/13/2003 9:45:00 AM
From Authorid: 53284
Judge not, so shall yee be judged.  |
Date: 5/13/2003 9:48:00 AM
From Authorid: 31154
I agree with your title  |
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Date: 5/13/2003 10:37:00 AM
From Authorid: 3125
DA..Many people who believe in God are so use to hearing comments like the one you made to JF. How would I know that it was said in a joking way unless you indicated that it was a joke? Regardless..As to the title of your post and the comments you received regarding it, God does tell His followers to teach others His way. Not necessarily the way that woman did to you at Wal Marts, but He does tell Christians to teach His Word. Some do not seem to understand that God tells us how His mind works and what He thinks. They do know what is or is not acceptable unto Him.He reveals to mankind what is right and wrong and what is acceptable and unacceptable. "Hey FB, you wouldn't want to hear what I would like to do to Eclectic Wiccans teachings..hehe" |
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Date: 5/14/2003 1:08:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15319
"Hey FB, you wouldn't want to hear what I would like to do to Eclectic Wiccans teachings..hehe" Study them and learn a valuble lesson? |
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Date: 5/14/2003 12:03:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
LOL.......good point Dark Angel! notice instead of addressing the bad behavior on the part of the Food Pantry ladies, it was implied I was not telling the truth. It's the old "re-direct" the conversation! Let's attack the person to whom it happened & not those who said anything, because THEY might have been doing the Lord's Will! :P:P:P Dark Angel, I have seen on this post, where the old "re-direct" was attempted, to change the whole tone of this discussion. Bottom line, the lady who said something to you, was wrong. Pure & simple. It was rude & arrogant. And people who presume to know the "mind of God", cannot possibly. And, yes, there is a LOT that could be learned from our teachings. Thank you for this excellent post & story! |
Date: 5/14/2003 5:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 54532
I completely agree with you. And if a lady said that to me I would have told her off. Though i did do that to my gramma but thats something different. I hope you told her off.  |
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Date: 5/14/2003 5:27:00 PM
From Authorid: 54532
BTW i would more likely believe that the homeless man on the street is one of gods ambassadors then that lady lol. |
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Date: 5/14/2003 5:40:00 PM
From Authorid: 52140
HAHAHA!! FB called you DA |
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Date: 5/14/2003 7:40:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
*puzzled look*, sorry Jesus Freak, missed the joke here...........:P |
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Date: 5/14/2003 9:02:00 PM
From Authorid: 54987
DA is an anagram for the back end of a duck LSG. I bet that's why JF found it funny. Groan! |
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Date: 5/14/2003 9:03:00 PM
From Authorid: 54987
I won't tell you what the JF stands for. LOL. |
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Date: 5/14/2003 9:25:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
LOL.........thanks for cluing me in Koolade! :P |
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Date: 5/14/2003 11:44:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15319
Since when does Jesus Freak study ducks? |
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Date: 5/15/2003 7:08:00 AM
From Authorid: 27950
I thought FB was replying to Dark Angel shortened to DA...and what is so funny or insulting about a Ducks rear end? Can't even imagine giggling over a ducks hind quarters.... *****KL*****  |
| Date: 5/16/2003 6:57:00 PM From Authorid: 62158 hmmm..well i am a Christian...i dont see where the lady had the right to judge you..i try and not judge others...but "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" I too Read the Harry Potter books, well one of them..my sched is a bit too busy to read too much..but anyways, You are Right in some aspects of your Post, There is no one who has ever walked this earth who could ever,ever fully contemplate the vastness of God..(minus Christ himself) but there are some things Jesus Does not know that God knows...( such as the Day of Judgement)....i do not think that it was right for this person to judge you, But also God never issued any speech about condeming others...his actual Instruction was to "go out and make Diciples of the Nations" ....if anyone would like more info msg me.......~OutoftheBlue~ |
| Date: 5/16/2003 7:01:00 PM From Authorid: 62158 hmmm..well i am a Christian...i dont see where the lady had the right to judge you..i try and not judge others...but "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" I too Read the Harry Potter books, well one of them..my sched is a bit too busy to read too much..but anyways, You are Right in some aspects of your Post, There is no one who has ever walked this earth who could ever,ever fully contemplate the vastness of God..(minus Christ himself) but there are some things Jesus Does not know that God knows...( such as the Day of Judgement)....i do not think that it was right for this person to judge you, But also God never issued any speech about condeming others...his actual Instruction was to "go out and make Diciples of the Nations" ....if anyone would like more info msg me.......~OutoftheBlue~ |
Date: 5/17/2003 11:02:00 AM
From Authorid: 51173
How do you know for certain He didn't? --- What the author has failed to do so far is explain how this "advice" was offered. Was is said with a mean tone of voice, or a kindly one? Did she shake her finger in your face, or look at you with compassionate concern? For the sake of arguement though, lets assume she was mean and judgemental - does that mean the way you react here is any less mean and judgemental? No... And lets also, for arguements sake, take the other tact and say she WAS God's messenger, sent just to you to tell you to.... avoid something harmful to you? That was the crux of her statement. Sounds to me like she was expressing, rightly or wrongly - your choice, concern for you and trying to keep you from doing something she either knew or thought was harmful to you. Change the message from "Don't read Harry Potter", to "Don't play in the middle of the street", and you would have no problem with what she said. Sorry author, but you have not provided enough information to either condemn this woman as judgemental, or exclude her as an instrument of God. Besides, who are we humans to tell God how and where to talk to us - that's His perogative. Peace, Tom  |
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Date: 5/17/2003 6:03:00 PM
From Authorid: 54987
Look, there's no getting away from it... the lady was RUDE and there is no justification for that. |
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Date: 5/17/2003 10:52:00 PM
From Authorid: 11240
TOM, where have you been? I don't believe that words alone can convey whether a person was rude or not; we do need more information on her demeanor, tone, factial expressions etc. And certainly the lady's intent in saying what she said is not available to us here, only TDA's reaction to her saying something that could have been meant in a completely inocuous manner. God Bless. |
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Date: 5/17/2003 11:21:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15319
Her demeanor was in fact, in my opinion,one of rudeness. I am not rude in this post in any way. If anything, I'm slightly annoyed that people like to imitate someone they obviously know nothing about. |
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Date: 5/18/2003 12:16:00 AM
From Authorid: 11240
I'm not quite sure what you're saying there, TDA, and I do appreciate you trying to get us to understand this whole scene, but you still have given us nothing but your opinion (judgement. Did she have a scowl on her face? A barking voice? A look that could be interpretated as: If I had the guts, I'd come and tear that book right out of your hands? Did she shake her finger at you? Was she a little old lady peering over the top of her glasses? A nun? I mean, you haven't given US any information on this incident other than your OPINION (which I totally feel you have the right to express. God Bless. |
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Date: 5/18/2003 6:51:00 PM
From Authorid: 61104
Deb all that crap is irrelevent. The point here is that she said what she said at all. Everyone has a right to pick up any book they would like to read without being ashamed of it. I personally think that was a very "smarty pants" way of replying to this. You know good and well that it does not matter what the look was on her face or the tone of voice she said it in. What matters is that she had the audacity to say it at all. |
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Date: 5/18/2003 8:19:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15319
No Goth Girl, its ok, I don't mind answering. Deb, the look on her face was disgust. This woman was about 30, she was not an old woman by no means. |
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Date: 5/18/2003 11:40:00 PM
From Authorid: 11240
Thanks, TDA, that gives a much clearer picture. Did she have a right to say what she said? Of course, we have free speech in this country. Was she tasteless in exercising her free speech? Yeah, that would be my judgement, and I am free to express it also, just like everyone else has here. Peace and God Bless. |
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Date: 5/19/2003 12:16:00 AM
From Authorid: 3125
Deb..Very good comment..I see what you are saying. In the name of freedom of speech, we all have the right to state our opinion and the lady boldly told TDA her opinion. It may have offended TDA but the lady had the right. TDA also had the right to tell her to mind her own business. |
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Date: 5/19/2003 11:28:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15319
I have better manners than that Rusure, I just ignore people who bother me (Up to a point, THEN I tell them to mind their own business). |
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Date: 5/20/2003 8:58:00 AM
From Authorid: 11240
Hey, TDA, this post is quite some ignorance (the state of ignoring), huh? (Oh, I'm just giving you a bad time --- I'll leave now and mind my "own" business. Peace and God Bless. |
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Date: 5/20/2003 11:24:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15319
Deb I'm not sure I understand your last comment. Are you trying be sarcastic? |
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Date: 5/21/2003 10:33:00 AM
From Authorid: 11240
TDA, you said you ignored the lady at the time of this incident. I say, "Good for you". But then, for whatever reason, you felt compelled to make it all public here. You DID NOT come to this point with HER HERE (as far as we all know), so you didn't, in fact tell her to mind her own business, which is what your previous comment said you do once you reach a certain point. Therefore, you did not either ignore the situation OR tell her to mind her own business; rather, you brought it all to this site for whatever purpose but it was not out of IGNORING (being in a state of ignorance) the situation, or else this post would not be here. And my previous comment clearly states that I am just giving you a bad time, but I am always happy to clarify anything I say. Peace and God Bless. |
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Date: 5/21/2003 11:31:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15319
Deb, when DON'T you give me a bad time? And I brought it here as an example to everyone that no one has the right to speak on behalf of God, regardless of your religion. |
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Date: 5/22/2003 6:17:00 AM
From Authorid: 3125
TDA..I believe the Bible is God's Word to mankind. God chose 12 apostles and He said, "Go ye and preach my word to all nations, teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you". God's Word also tells His followers to do the same thing. Even though Christians have the responsibility to teach God's Word, there is a time and place to do this. If Christians so boldly spoke up every time they see someone doing something that they believe is wrong, then they can expect someone to say to them something in the line of, "Hey, I didn't ask for your advice on whether or not I am doing right or wrong, so back off!" The lady also said those things to you with the wrong attitude. The words sounded more as if she was accusing or threatening. |
Date: 5/22/2003 7:17:00 AM
From Authorid: 61999
I'm a Christian and I'm going to have to knock on that lady for telling you what she thought of that Harry Potter book. IMO, I don't care about any free speech mess, I think "Who is SHE to tell YOU what to read?" And it's not a matter of whether or not I'd personally read Harry Potter (I prolly would, BTW) it's a matter of human relation and common sense; she didn't know you and so there's no way for her to know that you wouldn't react in a fashion that might endanger her well-being (and I speak from my POV; since you're a guy you shouldn't do it but if it were me, she might want to tone it down because I can only be calm for about a millisecond and then I'm going to start hitting people). I mean, what, God's going to call you on the phone and say "TDA, look, I'm not happy with your choice of reading. Please pick up a book that goes more along the lines of my Bible..." I just don't think God cares about all that, you know? It's not like you're reading Mein Kampf (sp?) or something! OR reading "The Art of Cannibalism: Healthy Recipes by Jeffry Dahmer". Sheesh, that lady needs to get a LIFE. ~The Mighty DreamGyrl~  |
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Date: 5/22/2003 7:18:00 AM
From Authorid: 61999
*smirks* Sorry for getting carried away. ~The Mighty DreamGyrl~ |
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Date: 5/22/2003 11:28:00 AM
From Authorid: 11240
Now, come on TDA, did we ever finish the "suirted moldy milk discussion"? God Bless. |
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Date: 5/22/2003 11:29:00 AM
From Authorid: 11240
Oops! I forgot my "p's and q's" or at least my q anyway. That should say squirted. God Bless. |
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Date: 5/22/2003 11:26:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15319
Deb, due to your lack of replying to that debate, I declare myself the winner. |
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Date: 5/23/2003 9:43:00 AM
From Authorid: 27950
Clearly this woman was not thinking along adult lines, what mature minded adult spew something like that..well let me rephrase that..actual mature minded person..not the people who think they have achieved the level of adult maturity. She as an adult should have kept her nose out of someone elses business. I for one would have been offended by the comment. It wasn't like the author was reading aloud or placing the book directly in front of this clearly rude womans face. The woman approached the author not vice versa. This would be an infringment upon something that I take seriously..personal space... It was a personal violation. As I said I stated the author was approached so yes the feeling of the author is justified. Maybe the next time this woman voices her opinion on someone else she wouldn't be as lucky as to get just a shake of the head. As for bringing the occurrence here, well I see this as a vent. The author dealt with the situation in a very adult manner. He should be applauded for that fact. *****KL***** |
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Date: 5/23/2003 11:43:00 AM
From Authorid: 11240
MATT (I hope you don't mind me calling you that), don't you know by now how astute I am at seeing inconsistencies and contradictions in people's words????!!!! That was not in "Debate" it was in "Discussion" and you need to recheck it if you think you got the last word (and please note the date. Hey, I don't mind "not winning" just so long as everyone plays fair. God Bless. |
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Date: 5/23/2003 4:01:00 PM
From Authorid: 55967
Actually, come to think of it, the lady was wrong in what she said because, if you think about it, what outcome would she realistically be after? Did she realistically think you would turn to a complete stranger and say, "You are so right! I better put this down!" I believe she only said this in a self-righteous kind of way to make herself feel better for having said it, and would not expect you to actually listen to her. There was no real practical reason for it, and any thinking adult would see that. It would not be like shouting to a child not to cross the road into oncoming traffic. In that instance, she would expect and hope the kid obeyed. This was different. Sure, under law she has the freedom to give her opinion, but under real Truth, I believe she did it just for the reason above. |
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Date: 5/23/2003 10:11:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 15319
Deb, no I don't mind you calling me by my real name, I just hope no depraved serial killers frequent USM *wink* |
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