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Date: 5/8/2003 6:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 47296
I do not believe we are at the end times, but closer to the time of a new beginning. The Hopi prophecies foretold the first two world wars, and also speak of a third great shaking of the Earth, which will be the next great war. During the third great shaking, cities will be destroyed, and many will die. People will survive though, and will turn back to a simpler way of life, and seek an everlasting peace. If you read Revelations, I believe it also states that there will be a time of everlasting peace. No, I do not believe we are at the end times, but only at the end of our present civilization, and warlike ways.  |
Date: 5/8/2003 6:53:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 50989
But the everlasting peace if you read revelation is after the millenium which has not yet happened.  |
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Date: 5/8/2003 7:00:00 PM
From Authorid: 47296
Yet, it is still not the end times, so to speak. It is only an end to out present ways. For years, the the representatives of several tribal counsels have sought admittance to the United Nations, in order to speak to all members of what is to come if we do not change. Everytime, they have been denied. These tribal elders know what is in store, and they know it is not far off. |
Date: 5/8/2003 8:24:00 PM
From Authorid: 30647
Yes, I agree with you! And all the things going in the middle east! I dono too much about this subject, but I'm just guessing that it'll be in our lifetime.  |
Date: 5/8/2003 8:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 14407
Isreal has been under foreign occupation longer then Jewish rule. It was occupied by the roman empire for centuries. They even destroyed the temple. Its was under arab rule for most of the middle ages besides the short seizure of jerusalam and a few other cites by christian crusaders. Then colonial occupation and finally back to "god's choosen people" only since after WWII. You can't say the'll never go away from Isreal, cuz they did, and they only got back half a century ago.  |
Date: 5/8/2003 9:40:00 PM
From Authorid: 51979
Warrior Spirit, the everlasting as you know is after Jesus comes to reclaim His earthly kingdom. I beleive that a 3rd World War between the major powers is VERY unlikely, because we generally have good relations with Russia, Germany, Japan, not China though...I say Russia speaking of a general respect, not one currently where it is tense.  |
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Date: 5/8/2003 9:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 51979
One thing I do beleive is that the end of times will be in God's time, so best live our lives for His glory and when the time is, whether it be in my life or my child's chilren's lives, it will come. So I find it better not to try to theorize when it is, it will be when it will be, let us just live life for God until then. |
Date: 5/8/2003 11:06:00 PM
From Authorid: 34487
Yes, it's very interesting to see these events happening.  |
Date: 5/8/2003 11:10:00 PM
From Authorid: 62118
Every second that goes by is a second closer to something ending the earth.  |
Date: 5/8/2003 11:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 61928
What a depressing life it must be to always be waiting for the end of the world.  |
Date: 5/9/2003 5:58:00 AM
From Authorid: 15228
We've had big tornado outbreaks before and I don't think it had anything to do with Palestine. Something about when cold air meets warm, we get tornados.  |
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Date: 5/9/2003 6:14:00 AM
From Authorid: 47296
Vital Death, it does not take a major world power to start a world war. All it takes is for the right series of events to fall into place that would draw the major powers into it. The Middle East is the place that could do that. Already, Russia is upset because of the possiblity that contracts they had with Iraq will be nullified. There are other countries with major interests in the Middle East, including China, North Korea, and most European Union countries. The elders of the Hopi Nation, over the ages, have written prophecies that have all come to pass. I did a poat about a year ago on the Hopi Prophecies. this is the link to that post. http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm257890.html I also have other posts I have done touching on the prophecies. Do not be so quick to discount the prophecies of the Hopi. There story is one, when read, that can really open one's eyes. |
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Date: 5/9/2003 6:17:00 AM
From Authorid: 47296
Slappy, I do not find it depressing, but actually a blessing. For several years now, I have prepared myself for that time. It is doomsayers who see it as the end. I see it as a rebirth. |
Date: 5/9/2003 8:06:00 AM
From Authorid: 57404
LOL@ Kelly. Something like that. :-) Poster: I was watching the news about the tornadoes that hit Oklahoma and the floods in Georgia and other area's. They said they haven't had anything like this is a very long time. I find our weather ever changing, and it just gets weirder. I believe the news caster said there were 9 tornadoes. That is a lot of damage! Scientist believe we are really close to another iceage, because the magnetic north is fluctuating and the poles are shifting. This is why our wheather is so freaky. I live in the high deserts of Southern California. The weather we had 5 years ago is NOTHING like what we get now. lol We should be in the 90's here already, but we aren't. It's in the 30's and 40's at night and windy and cold during the day. I don't believe in the end of the earth, like the planet will just explode or something. But the end of our times as we know it, and a new begining will start. I feel we will see this in our life time, because we are seeing the effects of the poles shifting now. :-) And I look forward to the new begining. God Bless  |
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Date: 5/9/2003 9:41:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 50989
14407 that is also propetically fulfilled Israel became a nations as mentioned in Ezekiel and I believe Isiah. 15228 u have had tornados but did u have one for two an a half hours stay on the groun and kill 37 people all at the same time. 57404 LOL I didn't mean the planet is going to explode silly, i meant that jesus christ will come back for h is church and then his glorious appearing will come out after the lawless one makes a decree for seven years, read Ezekiel 38 and 39. Also there will never be another Ice Age again in history. The planet is warming up, not cooling down buddy. Also Matthew 24:14-18 i believe says that when these things come to pass we are nearing the end of the ages. This is the seven year tribulation though. |
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Date: 5/9/2003 10:23:00 AM
From Authorid: 47296
Cherokee, the magnetic poles are always moving. That is why navigation maps have magnetic variations on them. They are known to fluctuate as much as 5 degrees either side of true north. Author, it would not take much to throw us into another ice age. It is true that the Earth is heating up. That is because of man's ever increasing influence on the atmosphere. One catastrophic event though, such as a meteor strike, or massive volcanic eruptions in several areas, could quickly create a massive cool down. |
Date: 5/9/2003 10:41:00 AM
From Authorid: 54987
People keep going on about the 'end times'. If you look back in history you'll find that the world has been in greater upheaval and the human race still survived. There have been countless religious nuts who have got their followers to commit suicide on the premise that the world was coming to an end. Israel is a very new state. It was created in the 40's after WW2 to apologise to the Jews for the holocaust. In 1967 Israel took land (Golan Heights) from Palestine and won't give it back to them. The Palestinians want a Palestinian State but Israel won't hear of it.  |
Date: 5/9/2003 11:42:00 AM
From Authorid: 39949
If you are a christian you dont have to care about it. When the rapture comes, im gone  |
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Date: 5/9/2003 2:41:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 50989
54987 scripture says that the jews would come together again and other prophecised events that have happened and some that still havent. 39949 that is good to think but jesus christ wanted all of his followers to proclaim his enternal gospel to the world. If your saved that's great, but jesus would want you to go and save others so they wont have to suffer in hell later on. |
Date: 5/10/2003 7:14:00 AM
From Authorid: 57225
well personally i dont believe in all that stuff, when the end is here then its here. whats the point of living your life obsessing over when its going to end?! just live your life day by day and if it happens then it happens. if it came we wouldnt be able to stop it anyways.  |
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Date: 5/10/2003 11:10:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 50989
I don't think u understand the pain that the world is goign to suffer. |
Date: 5/10/2003 11:58:00 AM
From Authorid: 11240
Well, I don't consider myself all that old, but I remember as a kid looking at an old map/globe and there was no country named Israel on them. Younger people don't seem to realize that Israel's "rebirth" was forced into the Middle East after WWII. As far as it being the "End Times" I have the view similar to WS. It is a period of time that is being described there, not a one-time event (ref: the end of the world statement) which I don't think too many people are going to experience anyway (meaning the end of the world). God Bless.  |
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Date: 5/11/2003 7:05:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 50989
The rapture will be great. It's before the end times. |
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Date: 5/11/2003 7:54:00 AM
From Authorid: 62118
Isn't all non-existant events great? |
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Date: 5/11/2003 2:40:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 50989
if you say there is something called wind that you can see and touch but not feel |
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Date: 5/11/2003 5:59:00 PM
From Authorid: 57225
the world is already suffering. everyday there are thousands of people in great deals of pain for one reason or another, as sad as it is a lot of people would probably welcome 'the end'. but i think i've already given my view on this matter |
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Date: 5/11/2003 9:14:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 50989
u think we're suffer now. LOL. you got to be kidding, nothing compared to suffering has even been brought upon the human that will make the sum of the events that will happen in the tribulation |
Date: 5/11/2003 11:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 55967
NO, I don't believe we are in the "end times." Of course, if the sky turns scarlet and I see Jesus descending on the clouds of glory with thousands of angery angels behind him and trumpets blowing anytime soon, I'll get back on here and say yo, "guess you were right!" ~GypsyHawk~  |
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Date: 5/12/2003 3:30:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 50989
you could get back here and say that but i would of been caught up with jesus christ and wouldn't be here anymore so it wouldn't be anyuse, only those who are not saved will stay here on earth through the tribulation, and u said you will be here which means you wouldn't be saved. |
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Date: 5/12/2003 6:29:00 PM
From Authorid: 55967
Don't you think Jesus has a sense of humor? ~GH~ |
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Date: 5/12/2003 9:14:00 PM
From Authorid: 57225
riiight |
Date: 5/12/2003 9:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 24924
I swear it seems like an awful lot of fundamentalists appear to sit around and gloat over the eternal damnation of their enemies; the nonbelievers. Why else would they continually speak of the "wrath of God" , "pain & suffering in hell", "left behind" "Lake of fire", "weeping, wailing & gnashing of teeth? Egad; I'd rather be shot than believe in such a jealous , vindictive and tyrranical "god".  |
Date: 5/13/2003 12:49:00 AM
From Authorid: 16671
So many that bash christians yet DONT know that END times, DOES NOT MEAN end of world. Geeze!!! Good post!!  |
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Date: 5/13/2003 12:50:00 AM
From Authorid: 16671
One thing about it GYPSEY HAWK, when you do, and you will, ,come back on here to say ,YOU were right, we wont know it as WE wont be here. |
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Date: 5/13/2003 12:09:00 PM
From Authorid: 57404
WarriorSpirit.. well according to scientists, they are saying the poles are shifter faster than they should, in turn causes the types of strange weather we are having. My friend sent me a url, I will see if I was bright enough to save it. LOL Author, I believe in the Bible, but I don't believe everything that was written, but that is because of my own personal experiences and life in general. :-) Scientists are saying that if the underground valcano's explode, then there will be a lot of destruction. I believe they were saying the gyser in (I believe) yellowstone national park is building and it is due to erupt, but of course they don't know when. It is strong enough to cause so much damage when it erupts that it will blot out the sun. They believe that would be enough to cause it to get very cold. I understand what you are saying tho, as far as the ones who are saved, and be taken. I believe that. Everytime I hear that, I keep thinking back to when I was a kid, I saw this program.. something like Unsolved Mysteries (the show lol) that there were people who would just disappear. One guy was in his bathroom shaving, his wife was sitting on the bed waiting for him to get out. And there was no other way out (windows) than the door, she never saw him come out but heard his rasor still going. She opened the door and he was gone. She believed that God had taken him. There were a few other cases like that as well. If we are in the end of times, and these things will take place. I won't be here to see them I guess, however I have felt since I was a small child, that I would be called apon to do some type of work for God in the end. I have no idea what tho. lol God Bless |
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Date: 5/13/2003 5:02:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 50989
57404 i'm glad that you believe but scientists don't have the answer to everything, jesus does and it is recorded in the bible, tell a scientist type person how a baby is formed in the wombans womb (i guess you would call it), how each arm and foot is put together, that is a miracle of Gods act, one day God is going to show us so much that we wont be able to handle anything anymore because we will know so much and say it is impossible for humans to have done this or the evolution cycle, this must have been done by god, how are we supposed to stop the sars disease, well just as it was written in matthew, these things will be. "And you will be hearing of wars an rumors of wars; see that you are not frightened, for those things must take place, but that is not yet the end. "For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and in various places there will be famines, and pestilence's and earthquakes. "But all these things are merely the beginning of birth pangs." Matthew 24:3-8 This is the last thingi have to say to you 57404 about the things that are and why. "And he told them a parable: "Behold the fig tree and all the trees; as soon as they put forth leaves, you see it and know for yourselves that summer is near. Even so, you too, when you see these things happening, recognize that God is near." Luke 21  9-31 |
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Date: 5/14/2003 2:54:00 AM
From Authorid: 62118
50989 - Jesus and the bible doesn't have the answers to everything, show me where it does. You're just stateing your faith. Its not impossible for humans to of evolved. Ezekiel prophesied the destruction of Tyre (Tyrus) by Nebuchadrezzar, (Ezek 26:1 NRSV) "In the eleventh year, on the first day of the month, the word of the LORD came to me:" (Ezek 26  NRSV) "For thus says the Lord GOD: I will bring against Tyre from the north King Nebuchadrezzar of Babylon, king of kings, together with horses, chariots, cavalry, and a great and powerful army." (Ezek 26:14 NRSV) "I will make you a bare rock; you shall be a place for spreading nets. You shall never again be rebuilt, for I the LORD have spoken, says the Lord GOD." (Ezek 27:32 NRSV) "In their wailing they raise a lamentation for you, and lament over you: "Who was ever destroyed like Tyre in the midst of the sea?" At the time of the prediction it same like Tyre would lose but after 13 years Nebuchadrezzar gives up, the island of Tyre wasn't destroyed, in Ezek 29:17 he admits his error but makes another prophecy God gives Egypt to Nebuchadrezzar, another failed prophecy. |
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Date: 5/14/2003 3:16:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 50989
All prophecy is true that is written in the bible, some of it has happened and some of it is yet to come. This holds true for both the old and new testament. But your question about how man was made or created is found in genesis. i don't know the exact verse because i am sitting down in school typing this but it's in the first chapter and at the front of the book. I would say to read for about 2 minutes in the beginning of genesis and you'll find your answer. God be with you. |
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Date: 5/14/2003 8:23:00 PM
From Authorid: 62118
*holds |
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Date: 5/14/2003 8:23:00 PM
From Authorid: 62118
No not all prophesis in the bible come true, I've just showed you that. I didn't ask how man was made, genesis is only a myth, evolution hods more answers than genesis ever could. |
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Date: 5/14/2003 9:29:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 50989
62118 then answer me how a baby is "evolved" inside a woman, how the arms and legs and body are all put together forming a fetus, let me see, could there actually be a higher being named God that could have done this, what do u think 62118 |
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Date: 5/15/2003 1:54:00 AM
From Authorid: 62118
A baby grows inside a woman from DNA, thats why we are imperfect we have faults, if God did it why would he purposely put faults in? a baby doesn't automatically mean God did it. Genesis doesn't explain this so why bring up the genesis reference? |
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Date: 5/15/2003 9:28:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 50989
God made man from the dust of the earth and it is our fault that we sinned and rebelled against God. WE couldn't even handle a simple temptation that satan shot at us in the garden of eden. I don't know about you but i'm trying to live my life according to christ, not according to the deeds of this earth and i was a good kid and attended church but didn't make it to heaven. It is how much faith you have and what u believe in that saves you. Not how good you are. |
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Date: 5/16/2003 1:53:00 AM
From Authorid: 62118
By the Bible God made a perfect garden called Eden, somehow satan got in it, tempted Adam and Eve then when God found out he punished Adam and Eve with death and their children. So basically billions of people are sentenced to death because of what two people did? And it was done by the "loving" and "just" God. And your excuse is its our fault, how did you work that out? |
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Date: 5/16/2003 1:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 61928
Cell division, 50989, directed by DNA and carried out by RNA. That's how a baby is formed. It's not strapped together like a Barbie by some omnipotent being. |
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Date: 5/16/2003 9:40:00 PM
From Authorid: 55967
62118, no one "sentenced" anyone to anything. Humans discovered the way to judge the difference between good and evil, and by following universal law, the world was never the same again. A good metaphor: in the early '40's, a team of people you have never met got together and created the world's first atomic power. Ever since, people have lived under the possibility of nuclear war and the ability to destroy the habitational condition of the world several times over. For some things, once the can of worms is opened, it can never be closed again as long as people are around. |
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Date: 5/16/2003 10:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 55967
Author, read up on history, US policy, and current events, too. The US will never go against Isreal; we've backed their very existance! |
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Date: 5/17/2003 2:53:00 AM
From Authorid: 62118
55967 - Where does it say that in the bible? Seriously did you even read my post before you decided to pick a word and change the subject? |
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Date: 5/17/2003 10:51:00 AM
From Authorid: 55967
Of course I read your post, and I didn't change the subject. The Garden of Eden is about the cause and effect fall of man; not some master "out there" punishing his servants. And using a metaphor is not changing the subject---its purpose is to enhance a point. |
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Date: 5/17/2003 11:03:00 AM
From Authorid: 62118
I was looking at it from the bibles point of view, the bible says God punshed Adam and Eve. |
Date: 5/17/2003 11:55:00 AM
From Authorid: 55967
Ah, but I personally see even the Bible saying this. It's not a well-spread belief, but what I see is like this. The "knowledge of good and evil" is, when you think of it, "judgment." People judge things and other people as either good or evil, but can only do so from their OWN points of view, which messes up any OBJECTIVE judgment, which is what God alone can do. So in the garden, we "ate of the fruit," meaning to me, we "took upon ourselves" the way to "judge" things and others. Since we did this, there are consequences to pay. God delivered through us those consequences. See? I think myself that a lot of what people believe to be God's wrath is simply us breaking universal laws that God had set up previously. This makes sense to me. If you agree or disagree, 62118, let me know what you think.  |
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Date: 5/17/2003 12:23:00 PM
From Authorid: 62118
I'm only going by what the words are, if I went by everyones interpretation I'd be here for days. Whats your interpretation of death only occuring after Adam and Eve ate of the tree? |
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Date: 5/17/2003 1:10:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 50989
They ate of the tree on their own free will. And after they did that prophecy was already into play. He will be bruised by the heel, is in the first book of the bible. Jesus was already mentioned to forgive their sins. |
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Date: 5/18/2003 1:54:00 AM
From Authorid: 62118
But yet we are punished for something we didn't do, if the Bible is correct |
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Date: 5/18/2003 9:19:00 AM
From Authorid: 11240
"We" encompasses a whole heckofa lot of people. God Bless. |
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Date: 5/18/2003 9:39:00 AM
From Authorid: 62118
"we" meaning humans, I thought you would've worked it out? |
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Date: 5/18/2003 11:25:00 AM
From Authorid: 11240
I did. That (humans) encompasses how many billion over the realm of human existence. If just one thing did not happen the way it did, can you even state as a certaintude that you would exist right here, right now? God Bless. |
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Date: 5/18/2003 12:04:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 50989
I just hope that god shows you the truth and that all those who don't understand can see and hear. |
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Date: 5/19/2003 1:11:00 AM
From Authorid: 62118
I highly doubt Genesis did happen, it wouldn't of effected my existence at all. Author if God showing you men has one less rib is his truth, God can keep his truth to himself. |
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Date: 5/19/2003 9:02:00 AM
From Authorid: 11240
RT'd, if you go back in your lineage (meaning all the people in your line that came before you) and attempt to rationalize that if just one of them was not in their particular place at their particular time, that you would be the RT'd as you claim to be, then please explain that rationalization. You, yourself, give credence to the DNA structure of each individual in one of your above comments. Please tell me how RT'd's DNA would be identical to RT'd if somewhere along the lineage, say your great-(oh, I'll pick a number, 26)-to-the-26th-degree grandmother hadn't mated with your great-to-the-26th-degree grandfather. Hey, maybe THAT came about because the person whom she thought she was would have like to reproduced with died at the hands of (ooh, I'll really make it dicey here) some "Christian" who was acting in the name of "Christianity". Now, you're going to tell me that you would be the exact same person had that "Christian" act not occurred? God Bless. |
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Date: 5/19/2003 9:56:00 AM
From Authorid: 62118
Remind me what this Christian act has to do with Genesis story? Had the Christian not kill this person most likely she would've mated with them. |
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Date: 5/19/2003 11:37:00 AM
From Authorid: 11240
Genesis is represented as the beginning of the coming of age of those we call Christians. Had the Christian not killed this person and she would have most likely mated with him, THEN "YOU" WOULDN'T BE "YOU" as "you" would have an altogether different DNA makeup. God Bless. |
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Date: 5/20/2003 3:43:00 AM
From Authorid: 62118
The Genesis story isn't dictating whether or not the Christian commits this act, the Christian will still believe the Genesis story and the act will still be commited. |
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Date: 5/20/2003 8:55:00 AM
From Authorid: 11240
Oh, boy, here we go again: RT'd, your point is . . . what? What if the person committing the act wasn't a Christian? I just used that as an example to make the story "dicey", remember?God Bless. |
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Date: 5/20/2003 3:21:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 50989
Come on RT'd, grow up |
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Date: 5/20/2003 3:26:00 PM
From Authorid: 61928
50989, I'm glad you will never realize how mistaken you are. It'd break your poor, closeminded little heart. |
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Date: 5/21/2003 1:51:00 AM
From Authorid: 62118
My point is you've still yet to link this Genesis story to your story of what ifs. |
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Date: 5/21/2003 1:52:00 AM
From Authorid: 62118
50989 - Maybe you might want to grow up and do some research instead of preaching myths |
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Date: 5/21/2003 10:24:00 AM
From Authorid: 11240
Oh, RT'd: You say in your comments that you don't believe in the the Biblical account because you can't fathom that God would do anything that your standards would deem as perfect (that's a compilation of all your commentry here). I don't need to relate any of my point to any part of the Bible (which BTW, I only referenced Genesis because YOU mentioned it) to MAKE my point. That point being: If anything prior to this point in time (meaning NOW) had not happened the way it did, CAN YOU STATE WITH ANY AMOUNT OF CERTAINTY THAT THE PARTICULAR DNA STRUCTURE THAT MAKES UP "YOU" WOULD EVEN EXIST? And I have yet to see you even attempt to answer that. God Bless. |
Date: 5/21/2003 12:51:00 PM
From Authorid: 11240
Oooh. That wasn't what I meant to say: the word perfect should read "imperfect". (I guess it's just hard for me to fathom that concept for myself, i.e., that God could be thought of as imperfect, that I had a "mental hang up" when I typed it out . God bless. |
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Date: 5/22/2003 1:14:00 AM
From Authorid: 62118
Actually I dont believe the bible because God has yet to do anything perfect, but ofcourse christians like making up their own definition of words so who knows. Your basically trying to say because it happened in the past that itself justifies it, what a load of rubbish, Hitler murdered millions had he not many people's DNA would be different because of the change of events, are you saying its ok because it happened in the past and people should just forget it? |
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Date: 5/22/2003 11:15:00 AM
From Authorid: 11240
If it blows your dress up to dwell on the past instead of living in the present, then go for it. Speculate all you want on what "might have, could have" happened other than the fact that you are right here right now because EVERYTHING HAPPENED JUST THE WAY IT DID. I don't put human standards on God. But if I did, I would choose the definition of perfect that means "flawless", as His Design/Plan has worked to put me right here, right now and I, for one, am glad to be here. God bless. |
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Date: 5/22/2003 10:15:00 PM
From Authorid: 62118
Theres no evidence the Genesis story did happen, its just a story but it does show the Biblical Gods injustice, one reason I dont believe. God puts human values on himself, he does seem to suffer human emotional problems. |
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Date: 5/23/2003 11:35:00 AM
From Authorid: 11240
Now I'm beginning to understand YOU a little better, RT'd. But seriously, do you call what God does "injust" (wrong), because you don't like your life? God Bless. |
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Date: 5/24/2003 2:57:00 AM
From Authorid: 62118
Deb did you open your eyes and read what I wrote? I dont believe in God, my life is ok. I call God injust because by the bible hes exactly that, injust but ofcourse if you base your own morals on the bible then you'd see that sick rubbish as ok. |
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Date: 5/24/2003 3:07:00 AM
From Authorid: 62118
Deb is your life really that bad that you welcome injust acts because you believe its going to make your life better? |
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Date: 5/24/2003 9:25:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 50989
God is not injust but fair, lucifer fell and humans were tested, he gave us a chance to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil and from the tree of life, which one did eve choose cause the devil tempted her, the tree of knowledge of good and evil, if she would of chosen the tree of life we would not be here right now, and even though she messed up god was not unjust because he gave her clothing and banned them out of the garden but stil l loved them and took care of them, now i don't know how you see that unjust? |
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Date: 5/24/2003 8:57:00 PM
From Authorid: 62118
It was an unfair test, how could they be tested fairly if they didnt know right from wrong? I dont know how you see punishing billions for the mistake of two people is fair, maybe its just your morals or lack there of. |
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Date: 5/24/2003 9:02:00 PM
From Authorid: 62118
All I can say if you think billions of people deserve to die because of the mistake of two people then you got serious problems. |
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Date: 5/26/2003 10:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 11240
If you don't believe in God, why do you sit and think and question Him so much? And let's all just sit here and IMAGINE what this world would be like if all those billions weren't dead. Do you have a book of instruction on how to live your life? God Bless. |
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Date: 5/27/2003 7:54:00 AM
From Authorid: 62118
Actually I question Christians definition of God, and their definition of just. The purpose to a debate is to show other views, do you not question people and their ideas when they present them? Thats basically what a debate is, deal with it. |
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Date: 5/27/2003 12:30:00 PM
From Authorid: 11240
Uh, . . . do you not see all the question marks in my comments? That is the only way I know of when typing to let anyone out there know I am asking a question. If someone does not feel compelled to ANSWER my questions, then all I can think of them is that they don't wish to be UNDERSTOOD. God Bless. |
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Date: 5/28/2003 2:32:00 AM
From Authorid: 62118
I ANSWERED you question, if you didn't like the answer thats not my fault. I have rules to live my life, laws and morals. |
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Date: 5/28/2003 8:51:00 AM
From Authorid: 11240
I didn't say I didn't like your answers. Why would I since they just bring about more questions: These morals and laws you live by, do they admonish you not to murder? Not to lie? Not to steal? Not to be jealous? Not to cheat? Not to be unfaithful to your spouse? Not to be disrespectful of your parents? I am quite curious. God Bless. |
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Date: 5/29/2003 4:26:00 AM
From Authorid: 62118
My morals is what feels right or wrong to me, yes it does include not killing people unless I have no other choice. I don't know about the not disrespecting your parents bit, if they respect you then yes you should respect them. |
Date: 3/3/2006 5:01:00 AM
From Authorid: 48250
I agree with You Author, Israel will never be touched, harmed...though no doubt there will be countries which will try to bring war upon Israel....I don't really see this as a debate, I'm bookmarking it...Thanks for sharing You're thoughts., I absolutely adore Jack VanImpe and Hal Lindsey, and another man I cannot think of his name but they are Some of the leading authorities on Biblical Prophesy and End Times....Have You read, Billy Graham's "Hoofbeats" You should buy that and read it....God Bless....T/C  |
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