Date: 4/28/2003 11:00:00 PM
From Authorid: 47699
Mike, I agree with you. This is the first I've heard of this being done. I always thought that it might take place many years from now. It looks like I might have been wrong, though. I'm going to look now and see if I can find any news articles about this. This is a very interesting post.  |
Date: 4/28/2003 11:03:00 PM
From Authorid: 53836
I didn't keep up on the cloning people...is there any word on those so called baby clones? I haven't heard of the newest attempts, but it is a scary thought. Where did you read this information?  |
Date: 4/28/2003 11:03:00 PM
From Authorid: 62116
Personally, I believe God gave Man the gift of learning and the free will to use what he learns. In the cases of cloning and cryogenics, they're not creating new life, they're working with life that already exists. As long as the people on whom these experiments are being performed consent to it, I see no harm. I seriously doubt that scientists will start kidnapping people just to freeze-dry them and see if they can bring them back to life or to clone them and end up with TWO of you pressing charges for kidnapping LOL. I think you're right; they'll probably tinker with it for a while and drop it. In the mean time, it makes for some interesting urban legends and nice articles for the National Enquirer. As long as they're playing in their own backyard, I'll let them be.  ~Nytwolf~  |
Date: 4/28/2003 11:06:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 13886
I didn't read it. I heard something about it on the news this morning.  |
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Date: 4/28/2003 11:14:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 13886
I can't seem to find anything about it online though, I'll keep looking and I guess Frank will too. |
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Date: 4/28/2003 11:45:00 PM
From Authorid: 47699
Mike, I've been looking and I haven't been able to find anything. Maybe there will be something tomorrow. |
Date: 4/29/2003 12:23:00 AM
From Authorid: 53909
I totally agree. They should leave the dead alone. Like you said, it may not be the same exact person, only the outside but maybe not the inside. Shouldn't mess with god's work or whatever. I think it would be real sad to bring someone back to life and they're not the same person.  |
Date: 4/29/2003 8:13:00 AM
From Authorid: 57404
I saw them mention something about it on the news last night, but didn't catch what they said.
I think the dead should be left alone, but we aren't talking about them digging up graves or anything. There are people who paid very very very good money to be frozen, so that they could be brought back to life later. Some with the hope that when they were brought back, there would be a cure for cancer, aids etc. Whatever they died from. I didn't think this would happen for a very long time. God Bless  |
Date: 4/29/2003 8:37:00 AM
From Authorid: 54532
I only say to leave it alone, not because of my religious beliefs, but i think that it would be too traumatizing for the person to die again. You get what I'm saying. ~lilliana~  |
Date: 4/29/2003 8:38:00 AM
From Authorid: 17204
I think it's very interesting....but it's pushing it, ya know? Thus I am undecided on how I feel about this...I would love to learn more about it...I need all the facts!   |
Date: 4/29/2003 9:15:00 AM
From Authorid: 61928
I don't understand why this is a bad thing. Why is it OK to save people on the operating table, but not OK to bring someone back through cryogenics?  |
Date: 4/29/2003 9:44:00 AM
From Authorid: 57404
I think it would be hard for the person being brought back (assuming they have no side effects from being brought back to life.) if they.. let's say died in the 50's and then they are brought back to life today. That would be a drastic change for them. But if someone died let's say 5 years ago and was brought back today.. I would think that they would adapt fine. I can't seem to find anything on what I heard for a breif moment on the news. Arggh lol
God Bless |
Date: 4/29/2003 12:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 16845
I didn't know cryogenics actually brought people back...I thought it was one of those if you weren't dead but...on deaths bed persay....then it would work. Eh....I don't know anything though I got all that from the movie 'late for dinner' Good one  My opinion? Ok I've always joked with my mother that if she's at deaths door I'm gonna freeze her until I find a cure....I'd never do that though....if it's someones time to go...it's someones time to go....BTW the little boy in pet sematary scared the crud outta me!  |
Date: 4/29/2003 2:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 48809
I don't see anything wrong with this ...I just don't understand the necessity for it, since when we pass on we are simply leaving here to continue our lives in the next dimension anyway. I assume that those who dothis are of the opinion that there is no afterlife or else they believe that ..."When you are dead, you are dead!"  |
Date: 4/29/2003 3:00:00 PM
From Authorid: 3125
Mike..People can do some great things in their own eyes, but they cannot bring people back to life. If a person is truly dead, he is in God's hands and God says that a man will die once, then after that comes judgment. God says it and I believe it. God will not permit a dead person to return to earth to die again only to be judged again. As for the cloning..People may mess around and come up with different ways to cause a baby to be born, but they will never create a soul, a spirit. People may produce artifical life, such as robots, but they cannot create a human soul.  |
Date: 4/29/2003 3:50:00 PM
From Authorid: 19092
For Nytwolf, God didn't "give" man knowledge. In fact, it was forbidden. Man choose to eat from the forbidden fruit, the tree of good and evil or the tree of "knowledge"...  |
Date: 4/29/2003 5:02:00 PM
From Authorid: 16538
I really hope we as a human race dont have to learn the hard way as why not to play god  |
Date: 4/29/2003 5:57:00 PM
From Authorid: 47296
Becky, you are right, cryogenics is not about reviving the dead, but basically putting thier bodies in a state of suspended animation at a lowered teperature, until a later date, when they will be revived. The problem is, it will not work on a human body. The human body is highly susceptable to the forming of ice crystals in the blood and the skin, because of the amount of water in our systems. If the body is frozen, the it will cause the blood vessels to burst from teh ice formation, or to stretch to a pouint where they will not function. I am sure some have also seen the symptons of frostbite on the skin. Forstbite is caused because the water in the extremeties frezzing, damaging or destroying the skin. There have been cases where people whose body temperature dropped due to exposure to cold water or air have become comatose, only to come out of it later. There have also been a few cases of drowning victims, who were submerged in cold water, being revived after a short time. To date though, there is only one mammal that could possibly survive the effects of deep freezing, and that is the Arctic ground squirrel.  |
Date: 4/29/2003 8:18:00 PM
From Authorid: 15070
Mike-you really lite the fire in my imagination. I made a post, and I owe you a great debt, for getting me thinking....thanks! Hope you don't mind my stealing an idea from you....~Peace~  |
Date: 4/29/2003 9:01:00 PM
From Authorid: 22080
i think people are just scared that if we can do the same things as "god" its going to prove them wrong, i find this stuff interesting  |
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Date: 4/30/2003 6:03:00 PM
From Authorid: 58681
As I understand it, once a person is dead the spark of life, or what is generally known as the soul, cannot enter back in. |
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Date: 4/30/2003 8:34:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 13886
That's why they wouldn't really be the same person if they brought them back. They'd effectively be soulless zombies. |
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Date: 5/2/2003 12:00:00 PM
From Authorid: 58681
Correct! They wouldn't be able to think. Cheers GA |
