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Man says vomiting robbed him of his right to remain silent....Flame-On

  Author:  38278  Category:(News) Created:(4/24/2003 4:23:00 PM)
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(4/24/03 - STAMFORD, Conn.) — You have the right to remain silent, but what if you vomit evidence before police read you your rights?

Vincent Betances wants his drug-dealing conviction thrown out, arguing that eight bags of heroin he threw up after emergency medical treatment should never have been admitted into evidence.

He contends police illegally seized the evidence from an ambulance after asking him if he'd swallowed heroin _ but before reading him his rights.

The state Supreme Court heard arguments in the case Wednesday and is expected to issue a ruling this summer.

Betances was arrested on drug charges in New Haven on June 20, 2000. Police said he was holding 30 bags labeled "The Cure."

While handcuffed and in a police cruiser, Betances began sweating profusely, turned pale and had difficulty breathing. Betances admitted he had swallowed four bags.

A paramedic gave Betances a medication to prevent the body's absorption of the drugs. A short time later Betances threw up eight bags of heroin, which an officer seized.

Assistant State's Attorney Toni Smith-Rosario argued that police should not be penalized for protecting the public, including defendants in their custody.

"Most defendants are grateful when police save their lives," Smith-Rosario said.

Suzanne Zitser, a public defender representing Betances, countered that exceptions to the Miranda warning must satisfy stringent requirements.

"It's not even a close call in this case," Zitser said. "There was no threat to the public or police officer safety."

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Date: 4/24/2003 4:24:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 38278    LMAO!! Uh boy.  
Date: 4/24/2003 4:50:00 PM  From Authorid: 28946    OMG! Next time just let him do it and by the farm. The police saved his life and he should be grateful.  
Date: 4/24/2003 5:13:00 PM  From Authorid: 47699    LOL! Talk about taking things to the extreme. I think silence refers to speech and not the sounds and involuntary actions of the body. In other words, 'Oh, boy!'  
Date: 4/24/2003 5:17:00 PM  From Authorid: 53284    The new miranda rights will have to address all bodily functions and what you may or may not do!!! LOL  
Date: 4/24/2003 5:19:00 PM  From Authorid: 30401    totally haneous! just trying to escape what he deserves....if you do the crime, you have to serve the time!  
Date: 4/24/2003 5:22:00 PM  From Authorid: 45948    LMAO, that is the craziest thing I have heard all day!!  
Date: 4/24/2003 5:25:00 PM  From Authorid: 16164    omg, I cant even say what I want to about this one......cuz if I were there.....I just cant say what I think really.....I might offend other drug dealers...LOL..but I dont care, only for the respect of the site I wont voice my opinion on the moron, he can go to......"jail" so to speak.  
Date: 4/24/2003 5:27:00 PM  From Authorid: 16164    darn that ticks me off....thats what our money goes for, people to be stupid.....they shoulda let the drugs in his system  
Date: 4/24/2003 5:35:00 PM  From Authorid: 53836    he swallowed bags? how much stuff was in those 8 bags? geez, and BLECH! stupid, stupid stuff in this world!  
Date: 4/24/2003 5:39:00 PM  From Authorid: 16164    I cant beleive I keep coming back to this story......but it just makes me so aaarrrrrggggggg.....the guy threw up in an ambulance, the ambulace is technicall private property, owned by the hospital or private ambulance company....so if he threw up in the thing they can take out whatever they want, cuz the ambulance crew technically gave the junk to the cops...what a waste of money and life.man that just gets to me.  
Date: 4/24/2003 5:55:00 PM  From Authorid: 29928    -->Zitser said. "There was no threat to the public or police officer safety."<---how can he say this, when if this man had not been caught this shhhummmstuff, woul have been sold to the public, perhaps even kids....How is that NO threat to the public????? Gimme a break!  
Date: 4/24/2003 7:21:00 PM  From Authorid: 54570    oh boy I hope they throw the book at him.  
Date: 4/24/2003 7:25:00 PM  From Authorid: 17275    Give me a break throw out his conviction because he barfed...what an idiot! He is quilty and toss the book at him before he tosses his cookies again!!!  
Date: 4/24/2003 8:36:00 PM  From Authorid: 33900    Oh man!......LOL........I mean, you know the Guy is GUILTY! But, under the circumstances, It looks like it was collected incorrectly. I would love to have been the cop, just so that when I asked his name I could have heard him say....RALPhhhhhhhhh!......LOL  
Date: 4/24/2003 8:41:00 PM  From Authorid: 33900    OMG!.......I have it!...I can see it now!....The new Miranda!...Just in case some guy is sentanced for blowing air up his own butt, when they ask if he did it he then replys: No!........"WHOOOMMMPP!"......Can you collect Poo-gas as Evidence?......HEY!.....It has just been one of those days......Don't even ask where my mind is.....I'm really in my own world here, don't ask...they all know me here:P  
Date: 4/25/2003 8:10:00 AM  From Authorid: 48812    and ya wanna know what the REAL sad thing is? Chances are, he'll prolly be let off w/ a clean record and a slap on the hand. Ugh.  
Date: 4/25/2003 10:05:00 AM  From Authorid: 45906    OMG loopholes  
Date: 4/25/2003 10:35:00 AM  From Authorid: 61897    He has some nerve!  

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