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The Weight Debate

  Author:  40319  Category:(Debate) Created:(3/2/2003 4:50:00 PM)
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In my ACP Comp class, we're reading a section in our Writing and Reading Across the Curriculum books about weight issues. Most of the articles talk about obesity as an epidemic problem and don't even mention anorexia or bulemia. Of course, I am an overweight individual, so I may be a bit biased, but to me, there is a larger problem with underweight individuals in this (American) society than there is with overweight individuals. So my question to you all is, do you feel it is a bigger problem for someone to be underweight or overweight? Which do you see happening more in your area? There are ten girls I can think of at my school (which is pretty small) who wear 00 clothing. That's way to thin if you ask me. Of course, I feel a person should be happy with who they are too. Anyway, tell me what you think.

--BriannaB--

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Date: 3/2/2003 4:58:00 PM  From Authorid: 8278    well, i am not one of the "skinny people" but i am not obese either. i could stand to lose a few so maybe i might be biased too. lol. i think there is too much pressure on sociaty to be real thin. i look at the performers today and they are all rail thin. and young people in society want to be like these people. i think being underweight can be just as unhealthy as being overweight.  
Date: 3/2/2003 5:03:00 PM  From Authorid: 51635    Well, I see more overweight people then I do underweight people...underweight people usually have the advantage of therapy solving their problem, then it's just a matter of gaining weight in a healthy way...overweight people usually have to over come the psycological problem or bad habbit that got them overweight and then go through the grulling act of loosing the weight... overweight people are also faced with all of the gimicks there are for shedding pounds quickly, some of which can cause damage that can't be fixed or takes years to fix...  
Date: 3/2/2003 5:04:00 PM  From Authorid: 46486    Being underweight is just as horriable as being overweight.  
Date: 3/2/2003 5:05:00 PM  From Authorid: 36079    well the tatistics are that theres more over weight people. I n't know whats worse but uan die of both I mean its not to horrible if u r 50 pounds overweight, but being 50 pounds under weight is deadly.  
Date: 3/2/2003 5:06:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 40319    What about the people who are slightly overweight? Everyone tells them they need to shed a few pounds, so they do, but then they realize they aren't skinny enough so they end up losing too much weight and they ended up being healthier when they were slightly overweight.  
Date: 3/2/2003 5:08:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 40319    And who determines what overweight is anyway? I mean, a beautiful, healthy woman from a hundred years ago would be considered overweight and unhealthy today.  
Date: 3/2/2003 5:12:00 PM  From Authorid: 56840    hmm.. Well, for some odd reason people who don't know me think I am anorexic, but I eat like a bear because I have a high metabolism and low blood sugar. About which I think is the worse problem.. I suppose, that in America, being overweight would be easier to find than in most other countries (correct me if I'm wrong), because of the amount of 1) fast food that is fatty and full of calories and 2) lack of exercise. For underweight people, tho, we have the media bombarding us with stick-thin bodies or really buff dudes. Well, if someone is naturally stick-thin, woohoo for them, but if a girl wants to starve herself to be underweight and look like she is stick-thin, she needs to realize that the world houses all kinds of people. and as long as someone is healthy, I don't think anyone should be complaining about being too fat or too thin. I am sorry if this sounds like pointing fingers..  
Date: 3/2/2003 5:15:00 PM  From Authorid: 46515    My daughter is naturally thin, and for awhile she could not afford to lose one ounce. She was built like that since she was a toddler and up. I had a very serious car crash 2 yrs. ago and it affected her deeply. She dropped weight, and it became alarming. She has since gained weight, she wants to gain more. She never threw-up,or had bulimia, but she was full of anxiety and fear. She was put on antideppressants, sees a therapist and looks and feels so much better. Anxiety can definitly trigger a dramatic change in eating.Bing too thin is as unhealthy as being overweight.  
Date: 3/2/2003 5:16:00 PM  From Authorid: 56840    The world HEALTHY, hmm, I think that the standards for being healthy are different for everyone. Like one person may need a slightly different diet than another because of the way their body works. Someone can say, oh, you shouldn't eat that piece of cake because it had too much sugar in it, but if that person's body is the sort that needs a bit more sugar than the "norm", I do not think anyone should be accusing that person as becoming unhealthy. One funny thing about me is that I can basically eat as many eggs as I want. My body just happens to really like them and use them well.  
Date: 3/2/2003 5:17:00 PM  From Authorid: 46515    *being  
Date: 3/2/2003 5:20:00 PM  From Authorid: 56840    Brianna, I think there is a lot of grey area in finding out if someone is even slightly overweight. Some people's bones may be heavier than anothers, and that may account for the couple extra pounds..  
Date: 3/2/2003 5:24:00 PM  From Authorid: 56840    Excatly, Brianna, people who were quite comfortably "healthy" long ago would be dreadfully "unhealthy" now. It probably all depends on the individual, not what the norm for healthiness is. Someone may be overweight because of their diet, but another person may have the exact same diet and not be overweight.  
Date: 3/2/2003 5:26:00 PM  From Authorid: 56840    Altho, there is a general "Healthy" diet that can be said to follow. You know, that food pyramid thingy. :P Even so, I think there would be disastrous results if everyone decided to follow it.  
Date: 3/2/2003 5:30:00 PM  From Authorid: 8278    it's true that metabolism can play a part in weight. my son has very high metabolism and people who see him think he doesn't eat. but God knows that boy can definitly eat. lol. the doctors get worried because he won't gain weight. but there is nothing i can do to help it. he eats like a horse, but just wont gain.  
Date: 3/2/2003 5:33:00 PM  From Authorid: 47218    I think more Americans are overweight than underweight and I think it is just as unhealthy to be grossly overweight as it as underweight. But I think our unrealistic perception of body image are to blame (at least partially) in both cases. Just as underweight people starve themselves to look like models, overweight people are unable to make realistic changes in their lifestyle because their expectations are unrealistic. Everyone wants to look like a model and it's just not possible for most people. I think the emphasis should change to leading a healthier lifestyle and being happy with who you are.  
Date: 3/2/2003 5:33:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 40319    I guess my questions more concerned with what's become socially acceptable. Is it bad that the media idolizes thin and underweight people? Should overweight people be idolized? Or should the media not concern themselves with body shapes? If that even makes sense. I think I confused myself.  
Date: 3/2/2003 5:40:00 PM  From Authorid: 47218    You can take a skin caliper test to get an estimate of how much body fat you have. There are general guidelines based on your height and weight to determine whether your percentage of body fat is healthy. If it falls above the healthy range, then you are considered medically overweight.  
Date: 3/2/2003 7:13:00 PM  From Authorid: 27270    I am 5'10" and I wear a size 13. I'm cool with that, that's all that matters to me ....  
Date: 3/2/2003 7:15:00 PM  From Authorid: 53052    i think there are issues in the coutnry where they put too much emphisis on being extra thin that people do horrid thing to themselves to try to achieve that  
Date: 3/2/2003 8:14:00 PM  From Authorid: 51070    Both are equally unhealthy. I'm a size 12; I could stand to drop a good ten pounds. I wouldn't really mind being able to wear a size 0, but that will never happen, because of how I'm built. I'm meant to be bigger, I guess. But America puts so much pressure to be thin these days. I wish I lived in the 1920's! Plump was considered sexy!  
Date: 3/2/2003 8:23:00 PM  From Authorid: 24845    Very good Debate, Brianna. Number one. It's very important that your happy with who you are on the inside, then worry about the health issues of the outside. I'm very small and thin. I'm not saying that that is better, in fact I have a problem keeping weight on. During the time right before my divorce (about two years) I had dropped down to 92-93 pounds. It's entirely too low of a weight for me. I saw myself literally withering away because of stress. I didn't eat, ever. I would drink cokes and crackers. I didn't "feel" hungry...so in turn, didn't eat. I think that alot of emphasis is on weight. I think it's only relevent when your health is involved. I agree that there is so much more talk about obesity. I don't know if that right or not. I know that a lot of girls and women have issues with gaining weight. Whether it be emotional, mentally, or physically caused. I think the most important issue is with the mind, and how you overcome it. Right now I'm at 105 or so, I've done so much better. I was really worried there for awhile because I knew I was making myself sick by not eating. I was really worried if I'd die from it or not. Lucklily I got divorced and cheered up and started putting on weight. I still check the scales and make sure I don't sink below the 100 mark. It scares me if I do. I think to some people being small is in thier makeup. I know it's in mine, but there is such a thing as too thin.  
Date: 3/2/2003 10:47:00 PM  From Authorid: 53052    weight debates tend to have a fair amount of talk same with religous debates  
Date: 3/3/2003 7:54:00 AM  From Authorid: 54532    I am overweight but i am somewhat proud of my body. This country unfortunately is encourging Food disorders!!! I think that the magazines that say "be healthy" then show the size 00 woman is such crap.  
Date: 3/3/2003 11:54:00 AM  From Authorid: 36079    heck yeah depression can make u lose weight, I once lst 10 pounds in one night becouse of it. How much u should weigh is calculated by how old u r ur age what ur build is and how tall u are.  
Date: 3/3/2003 6:34:00 PM  From Authorid: 53314    Ok this is how it goes. Minority crys-(thin people) Everytime they have to see the majority(Fat people) Bend over. You dont see any fat performers for a reason..They're not appealing. I don't want to see someone over weight sing!! Over weight people are overweight for a reason. You cant eat 5 cheese burgers and then complain that society wants you to be thin.  
Date: 3/3/2003 7:40:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 40319    Okay, Rowley, let me say this. I am not overweight because I eat 5 cheeseburgers a day. I eat less than my brother does and he's at a healthy, normal weight (he was underweight until he started sports and put some muscle on). I'm active, I'm not a lazy bum. People can be overweight for reasons other than overeating. Plump used to be perfectly acceptable. For some odd reason, society decided that in order to be attractive, you had to be as big around as a twig. Why did this happen? What caused things to change in less than a century?  
Date: 3/4/2003 7:10:00 AM  From Authorid: 22080    i dont know what size me lady wears but shes perfect and curvy and she says she needs to lose weight*blank stare* i told her i would probably be less attracted to her if she got runway model thin.gotta have meat on your bones ladies  
Date: 3/4/2003 7:12:00 AM  From Authorid: 22080    *shakes fist at rowley* hehe dude i could care less about singers being overweight or not cause they're singing your not meant to look at them but to listen to them  
Date: 3/4/2003 9:52:00 AM  From Authorid: 38119    I think plump used to be in because it was a sign of affluence. It's interesting that what used to be considered a sign of lower class years ago(i.e.being thin and having a sun tan)is now what is in.  
Date: 3/4/2003 4:15:00 PM  From Authorid: 57225    i think there is alot of both at my school, i duno which would be worse, both have health issues.  
Date: 3/4/2003 6:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 22080    blue i think its because it cost a crapload to stay thin and the whole tanning thing is to show you can afford to goto the tropical vacation spots  
Date: 3/4/2003 11:18:00 PM  From Authorid: 27554    Being underweight is much more unhealthy than being overweight. If you are 30 pounds overweight, then you probably don't have any weight induced health problems, but if you are 30 pounds underweight, you really do have some health problems. If someone is 100 pounds overweight at least they are still alive. A person that is 100 lbs. underweight would be dying. So I think that being severely overweight is healthier than being severely underweight. Both of them are very unhealthy, but being underweight is more serious.  
Date: 3/5/2003 7:19:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 40319    One of the articles we read, I don't remember which, said something about how the health problems associated with obesity are actually more likely to be caused by "yo-yo" dieting (you know, dieting then not dieting then dieting again). I thought that was very interesting. What do you all think?  
Date: 3/5/2003 8:43:00 PM  From Authorid: 47218    I'm sure that taking fat off and then putting it on again isn't good for your body, but neither is sitting on your rump and eating McDonald's everyday. Diet and where you store fat is a huge factor in health problems. If you store a lot of fat on your midsection your risk of heart disease is drastically increased. Also, poor diet can cause a score of health problems-- diabetes, high cholesterol, high blood pressure, to name a few. My Grandma, who has been overweight for the last 35 years of her life and has never dieted, has all of the above.  
Date: 3/6/2003 3:00:00 AM  From Authorid: 53314    Its a lot harder to get 30 pounds underweight then it is to get 30 pounds overweight...Not to mention you can fix being underweight, just eat.That dosent sound to dangerous to your health in fact eating sounds almost normal!?  
Date: 3/6/2003 5:46:00 AM  From Authorid: 47218    actually, Rowley, some underweight people are anorexic or bulemic. It's not so easy for them to just start eating. And some people are underweight because of illness. Again, not so easy to fix.  
Date: 3/6/2003 7:26:00 AM  From Authorid: 22080    rowley i beg to differ i have alot friends who are underweight and eat and eat and eat but dont gain a pound  
Date: 3/6/2003 2:47:00 PM  From Authorid: 53314    Ok look this is a fact.If you sit around and eat all day and aren't physically active-Your going to get fat. Now which is harder.Goign through strenuous dieting for months to get back to normal...or sitting around on the couch eating 4 big macs? Its science YOur metabolism gets bad if you arent physically active.  
Date: 3/6/2003 3:43:00 PM  From Authorid: 24845    Rowley, Rowley, Rowley...lol...it's true that your metabolism does suffer if you don't exercise. But alot of it does have to with people's "systems" Me, for instance, I do eat. Thank you very much. It's very hard for me to gain weight. Stress has a HUGE amount of blame on people that can't gain weight and can't lose it. People relate to stress in diffrent ways. They can't just Stop Eating, or Start eating. Thier bodies aren't made that way. I wish...Man! do I wish it was that easy, because if it was. I wouldn't have ended up with half the problems I ended up with if it were that easy.  
Date: 3/6/2003 5:39:00 PM  ( From Author ) From Authorid: 40319    Rowley, do you even have any scientific evidence to offer, or are you just going off on "common knowledge"?  
Date: 3/7/2003 4:42:00 PM  From Authorid: 43318    You know being too underweight and too overweight is a real concern. I am an overweight individual and would like to lose a few pounds. The only reason overweight people are being more talked about is because there are more and more people becoming overweight than there are being underweight. It's a growing problem in America, but I say if you're happy with who you are and what you look like, nothing can be said or done that would make you want to change who you really are. Bigdogjra
Date: 3/7/2003 4:49:00 PM  From Authorid: 53284    Where I work, far more people carry too much weight. There are several people who have weight related health problems. So from my point of view there are too many heavy people around me. Although as a male, I have to say, I really don't care for the skinny look that so many hollywood types strive for. I most perfer someone to look healthy (and in my opinion you need some meat on your bones for that)  
Date: 3/7/2003 5:39:00 PM  From Authorid: 53314    I figured anybody with common sense could make the connection--Eat fatty foods/Dont exercise and you are going to get fat sooner or later..

It took so much time to go to "www.metabolism.com"Who would of thought?) and find this fact.

"Exercise, probably due to an increase in muscle mass, does increase the body's metabolic rate. "
  
Date: 3/7/2003 5:42:00 PM  From Authorid: 53314    Not to mention...."Unless there is a medical condition that is resulting in weight loss, the weight loss is recent and unexplained, or there is a risk of malnutrition - as is often the case with eating disorders, being underweight is far less of a health problem then being overweight."  
Date: 3/7/2003 5:44:00 PM  From Authorid: 53314    Note: Before you attack my reply It does not make any comparison between malnutriton and obesity only general statements about people under and overweight.  
Date: 3/7/2003 6:54:00 PM  From Authorid: 24845    I'm not saying that one is worse than the other, neither are the best condition that a person can be in. I don't know about that deal with whether or not more exercise causes a higher metabolism, it most likely does. But let me tell you, Rowley, each body is so diffrent. I sit on my butt and eat and eat and eat, everyday. If there was enough food in my house I would eat it all out. I don't exercise, I don't run, or do anything like that. I eat at fast food restraunts at least twice a week and man I'm addicted to the double cheeseburger. I know. I'm at 97 pounds right now. I just know one thing for a FACT. Not always are statistics carved in stone. Either way overwieght people or underweight people aren't as healthy as we would think.  
Date: 3/8/2003 8:15:00 PM  From Authorid: 11240    Well, I have never been very heavy, and have always been rather healthy. The problem with being a small size (yes, I have a few size 00 but my main size is 2) is even FINDING that size clothes, so I would have to say that being small (underweight?? No, just small framed) is a bigger problem in that department. God Bless.  

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