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Date: 12/14/2002 11:42:00 AM
From Authorid: 58268
I read the first part and just stopped. Its not gonna be possible for the next 1,000 years or so.  |
Date: 12/14/2002 11:51:00 AM
From Authorid: 26761
is that true? wierd... hmm... interesting... lol  |
Date: 12/14/2002 11:57:00 AM
From Authorid: 49150
I thought they tried that with the philadelphi project in the 50's. They used magnetic fields to make a ship and her men to disappear. I heard it was not a pretty sight when the ship reappeared. Men and the ship were not put together right. In some instances it is said that men were actually imbedded into the ships walls. This is all strictly hearsay of course, but you can find info on it by doing a search on "the philadelphia project".  |
Date: 12/14/2002 2:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 61941
ok first off it wasn't the army it was the air force and second if it was that top secret there would be no way that you would ever find out about it because everyone working on the project would be under lock and key. And even if this were true screw em' it's there problem and if time changes you won't no it so it does'nt really matter  |
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Date: 12/14/2002 2:20:00 PM
From Authorid: 61941
in regards to cristal the philedelphia project wasn't to send them through time but rather to make them invisible for an easier way to get in closer to shore with out being seen as for the men and the ships being fused together that is true. |
Date: 12/14/2002 2:22:00 PM
From Authorid: 59861
i knew this. but i didnt know all of this info. thanks.  |
Date: 12/14/2002 2:27:00 PM
From Authorid: 59746
That is sooo strange!  |
Date: 12/14/2002 2:30:00 PM
From Authorid: 21867
...its rumoured this is what Tesla started way back in Montauk many decades ago...  |
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Date: 12/14/2002 4:29:00 PM
From Authorid: 61941
i still chose to believe that this isn't taken place. noone would no about it. i think y'all are playing with that tiny line between true and false |
Date: 12/14/2002 5:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 22852
I was about to back out of this post but when I saw who wrote it I stayed to leave a comment. I believe this could be very possible, I am sure they may already have it up and running but we will never know.  |
Date: 12/14/2002 6:35:00 PM
From Authorid: 56864
If they time travel, it will make them able to create antigravity in 5 seconds real time but 500 years anti-time (my own term, meaning repeating time over and over to cause something in less real time)  |
Date: 12/14/2002 8:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 27691
I think you been spending too much time watching Star Trek, my friend. The Quantum Slip Stream Drive LOL, give me a break. That was showcase on a Vourager eposide when wannabe Captain Janeway cause the death of all her crew members other than ensign Kim and First officer Chekotay to survive which they came back to save them thru the spacetime continuum. So i guess the Navy decide to use popular Sci-Fi terminology from a famous show in this secret which you obviously concocted with our lack of originality to boot. I guess only a trekkie fan can tell that this is all fake LOL.  |
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Date: 12/15/2002 6:55:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 19342
Like i said..dont take my word for it. Yes i have contacts , thats how i came across it , And its ok if you dont want to believe , banana , as far as Startrek goes , i really dont see any similarities , im just curious where did you get your B.A in Quantum astronomy? No offense , but this is real , the scenario is real , is it a cover up for something else? I really dont know , ive done field reporting before , and sometimes the truth is just that , WEIRD! I never claimed anything besides the fact that , this is the information ive got , and the suspicious "Coincidences" , after i exposed it. The information is here. Ive been on USM for a long time and i am not a liar , nor do i suffer from "Frontal Lobe Disorder" or anything of the sort. I have had some extreme experiences in my life , the such most people never had. Keep your mind open. Thanks for the oportunity to post this. Stargazer.  |
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Date: 12/15/2002 8:14:00 PM
From Authorid: 27691
I highly doubt that the Navy is close to developing such a techology as you stated since it means we would be able to travel in light speed and last i check, we can't. Beside, when we broke the sound barrier back in the 60's, it was no big secret so why is traveling light speed any different? Anyways, here is the famous url site i was referring to concerning the Quantum Drive, which is way into the future on sci-fi galore and is part of Borg technology since we are unable to accomplish such a feat without the help of aliens with the ability to assist us. That is my humble opinion. If lightspeed can be attain, it would only take us less then a minute to get to the moon...wouldn't that be cool. ---------------------------------------- http://www.angelfire.com/ak/StarTrekVoyagerlcars/slip.html |
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Date: 12/15/2002 8:24:00 PM
From Authorid: 27691
time travel hmmm....time travel must be accomplish at a speed much faster them the speed of light so wouldn't u think we would need to establish the ability to travel in light years for a long while before time travel can even be suggested. Its unusual that they attempt to travel faster than the speed of light when we can't even do that yet. |
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Date: 12/15/2002 9:07:00 PM
From Authorid: 61941
i'm totally with banana on this one i think your wrong |
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Date: 12/15/2002 9:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 27691
Thanks author 61941, it's good to have support from someone who is sane in matters like this. Being an active Marine like yourself, you tend to know when someone is pulling your leg. |
Date: 12/15/2002 10:57:00 PM
From Authorid: 20977
that's crazy!! where did you hear this?? |
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Date: 12/16/2002 7:21:00 AM
From Authorid: 27691
He is just making it up Korn Star. Look at his profile, he even admits he has a crazy, warped mind. I think that says it all lol. |
Date: 12/16/2002 9:16:00 AM
From Authorid: 53927
I think travel like that is possible. Besides, who ever said our laws of physics are even right, just becuase they prove a couple things doesn't mean there isn't another way of looking at the universe. Maybe things going faster then light go into a different type of space so we can't detect them. This is a cool post though.  |
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Date: 12/16/2002 6:04:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 19342
And oh...before i forget! Active marine or not , depending on your rank and clearance will not know "SQUAT"! I served the country during desert shield/Storm and dont need an 18 year old telling me whats real or not. I have seen dead bodys in the warfield , im not a prankster nor do i have time to tell tall tales. but , you know what...if memory serves...Copernicus , was chastised by the church for saying that the sun is the center of our solar system. I guess conventional wisdom is hard to let go... |
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Date: 12/16/2002 6:06:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 19342
SCIENTISTS have broken the ultimate speed barrier: the speed of light. In research carried out in Princeton , New Jersey, particle physicists have shown that light pulses can be accelerated to up to 300 times their normal velocity of 186,000 miles per second. The implications, like the speed, are mind-boggling. On one interpretation it means that light will arrive at its destination almost before it has started its journey. In effect, it is leaping forward in time. Exact details of the findings remain confidential because they have been submitted to Nature, the international scientific journal, for review prior to possible publication. The work was carried out by Dr Lijun Wang, of the NEC research institute in Princeton, who transmitted a pulse of light towards a chamber filled with specially treated caesium gas. Before the pulse had fully entered the chamber it had gone right through it and travelled a further 60ft across the laboratory. In effect it existed in two places at once, a phenomenon that Wang explains by saying it travelled 300 times faster than light. The research is already causing controversy among physicists. What bothers them is that if light could travel forward in time it could carry information. This would breach one of the basic principles in physics - causality, which says that a cause must come before an effect. It would also shatter Einstein's theory of relativity since it depends in part on the speed of light being unbreachable. Are we about to time travel? With new discoveries on the horizon , the possibilities are infinite! |
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Date: 12/16/2002 6:08:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 19342
Right...Science , not Startrek. have the link if anyone wants it! Better yet , ask bannana , ive sent it to her. |
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Date: 12/17/2002 8:24:00 AM
From Authorid: 27691
I don't know why your bringing religion into this but it's well known, referring to your own words 'the church' for ages has openly chastised any views that are scientific in nature, ala evolution. So what does that have to do with anything?? Sorry but I just don't get what your trying to accomplish here...if it's the christians your trying to prove wrong, then post this in the religion section. And good luck, you need it! |
Date: 12/17/2002 5:57:00 PM
From Authorid: 7440
Good post  |
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Date: 12/18/2002 1:34:00 AM
From Authorid: 61941
stargazer one i ain't some twenty year, i'm a cpl and i have a top secret claerence,and i have also see dead bodys lying in the street of an urban warzone. but that has nothing to do with traveling through time. man is not ready nor will we be for a while. were just reapeating ourselves. if you can tell me something invented within the last 20 years not brought up by something else or to make something else better.but really authentic then i'll see were your coming from. but until then the point stands that there is no possible way that anything of this nature exsists. |
Date: 12/18/2002 12:40:00 PM
From Authorid: 54987
So, presuming this is true (and I'm not saying I'm convinced), what does it mean for us plebs? Good post though ... I like this kinda stuff.  |
Date: 12/18/2002 1:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 13886
What would need to happen in order to travel backward in time?  |
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Date: 12/18/2002 11:49:00 PM
From Authorid: 27691
Let's analyzed this fabricated 'tic toc' bs that the author has tried to fool us on to believing. He claims to have sources that he want to keep anonymous for fear of retaliation. If this is true, then your not too bright as you decided to bring forth this, in your own words...'above top secret' info to USMer's and possibly put everyone here in jeoperdy as well as you most likely to be apprehended soon by the security agency who is involved with keeping this 'above top secret' info a secret. In case you didn't know, they can easily find out WHO you are by tracing the ip addy back to your service provider, then track you down and interrogate you on your so-called sources. Wouldn't that be nice. Unless this is just a sick joke your trying to fool us into believeing which is most likely the case since your still here chatting freely. Now i consider you as a bright but phoney person and not the other way around, am i right? Also, you claim to have serve in Desert Shield/Storm, which i doubt otherwise your not too bright as all, since those who have serve for our country are taught to keep things of top secret, a secret. Maybe you are one of those types who are disgruntled at the government like timothy mcvie and decided jeoperdize our top secret discoveries to the open public? ..not too smart at all Stargazer. But if you did happen to serve in Desert Storm, you would most likely be an onboard cook or something like that and probably getting your kicks out of eavedropping on open/close discussions. In fact, most who had the opportunity to served in desert storm would most likely want to mention that in their profile, since it was of great honor to be part of victory for peace but you did not and decided to say you got a license to be a truck driver since you enjoy the roads...last i check, driving on the road is free and you don't need some company telling you which road to drive. Anyways, you just happen to mention your involvment in Desert Strom in your reply comment just to prove to author61941 that you are better than him when, in fact, you come across acting like a little child -------- Now I didn't want to bring all of this up but you forced me to by patronizing me and accusing me of not being able to grasp what your saying thru personal messages instead of putting your opinions of others out here. I'm not going to discuss this any further unless you tempt me (again). Have a Goodnight! |
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Date: 12/19/2002 9:22:00 AM
From Authorid: 53927
I read that article about light being accelerated to 300 times its speed awhile ago. How does anyone know what technology we could and couldn't have. Maybe you think that time travel is impossible or very diffiult to comprehend but what if it's easier then you all might think. Besides, we don't know what other technology, that hasn't been shown to the public exists, and we don't now if the government hides secret technolofy that might enable them to build something to travel through time. We didn't know about the stealth planes until about 5 or some years after they've been used and found out about the use of faster then sound planes until ten years after. All I'm saying is that people shouldn't be ignorant and should keep an open mind, because no-one knows everything. Also don't critisize Stargazer for what he believes. Maybe he's been misinformed or is tricking us but maybe he isn't. |
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Date: 12/19/2002 11:43:00 PM
From Authorid: 27691
Bart, not once did i criticize his belief so i do not know where u get that from. Everyone has the right to believe what they choose including you Bart. I am providing my aggresive opinion on the validity of his sources of what they supposedly told him but not once did i attack his belief so please refrain from accusing me of something that i would never do. Goodnight everyone. |
Date: 12/20/2002 12:17:00 AM
From Authorid: 59418
you never know these days banana, anything is possible....metal princess  |
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Date: 12/20/2002 6:00:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 19342
Ok...Let me spell this out for you Bannana... It seems that you are a little slow in grasping certain concepts... 1...Im not telling you my rank or number during the war , it was traumatizing enought for me , for i lost a very good friend there. But i assure you i was no cook , honey. 2...You are acting like a angry little teenager who doesnt like to hear shes wrong. 3 As far as how bright i am , ive been here on USM for a long time and let my record and posts do the answering , last i checked , you have some very cryptic to say the list posts yourself. I dont take any of this to heart , because i know you are immature and have a lot to learn , as far as me sending you messages , i tried to be as pleasant as i could , i also messaged 61914 , never tried to say i am better than anybody , have no intention to ,havent got a nasty reply from him , as i understand he is a sensible person , capable of reasoning , unlike you. Now , i could just delete your comments , but in fairness to all i will not do that. As i said to you before , i wellcome your comments on any of my posts , and i still do , but please , "Get a Hold of Yourself"! So you dont have to agree , with me or even believe me , but frankly , the attacks on my person are really uncalled for. I hope you find it in your heart the wisdom to understand that its not impossible to live with opinions that are not the same as yours and they dont all come from liers and pranksters. And most of all..."Take a chill pill". I hope your future experiences on USM are more pleasant than this one , i certainly hope mine are. And with this i sincerelly hope we close the chapter on this one ok? Lets just agree to disagree. thanks. |
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Date: 12/21/2002 2:56:00 PM
From Authorid: 27691
Hi Stargazer, you would never ever admit anything on the ground that you were better than someone else but you had implied it which is self evident in your replies. I forgive you tho. I still do not know why you had call me immature when all i am doing is calling your foolish bluff at your 'sources' who told you this information and then you bringing all this up here in USM for everyone to read. Did your socalled 'sources' approve of you doing this or did you decide to take this matter into your own hands? Appearently, you did not try to clearify any of this in your last lengthy reply to me but instead taking the route of attacking my inability to grasp your concept. I understand this concept completely. I am just stating that this concept is impossible to achieve since we do not have the ability to travel light speed nor are we close. Oh by the way, using light beam or light pulses as an example of traveling at the speed of light is not what i call a breakthu ok unless you want to talk in those terms. Then yes, i myself have broken the speed of light as well when i turn on my flashlight, which the light from it travel at light speed as it it hit my wall. Wow did i win the pulitzer prize for this discovery? LOL. Until we can move physical objects at the speed of light instead of using a light beam or pulses to do that, then i will listen. In the meantime, this is a shallow attampt at trying to get recognition has a journalist. I understand the frustration this must be as you even try to use religion in your discussion to prove to the ignorant this discovery by using techno talk to achieve the ultimate propaganda. Good job, you made your point. |
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Date: 12/21/2002 3:17:00 PM
From Authorid: 27691
Like i had said before, if this *top secret* is true, then you will be interrogated and monitored by the NSA in order to find out who your 'sources' are, who must be on the 'inside'. If you think the goverment will not take action upon you for leaking this 'above' top secret out, then you are not too smart, like i had said before. I am trying to help you out here but you rather jeapodize your whole life instead....unless this is not true and your just a phoney. It's one or the other, no in between. Take care, |
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Date: 12/22/2002 12:30:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 19342
Call me what you will bannana. You do not know me. My sources? Yeah , they know , i had every intention to publish this article. many top secret projects have been outed before , leaks in security , specially if theres a civillian contractor working for the military. I dont expect you to know that , because its not common knowledge , but you could have asked , instead of calling me names , such as phoney , and "Not so bright". And as far as photoms(Light), goes , as i understand its just the basis for the technology , you are reasoning on the concept of impossibilities , because you are using the facts that you know to be true. I accept that , however think that maybe...just maybe , the scientists who are working on this project , know something you dont. Now that changes everything right? Laws of physics can be altered under special circunstances , i remember a professor in college , that used to tell me every time to think outside the box. 700 years ago , we "knew" the earth was flat , and if you sail straight across the sea , you would fall off the earth. 100 years ago we "knew" , man would never step on the moon. Imagine what we will know in the next 50 years right? Now you mention religion... And thats why i kept telling you , you are missing the point , its not about religion bannana. Its about new ideas not being accepted over older ones , its about the stablihed truth of the day and the fear of the unknown. And , who are you calling ignorant? The other people that didnt agree with you on this post , the majority i should say? Not to say that they all agree with me , but , at least the majority had an open mind to it , and even the ones who didnt , did not call me names. You know...vulgarity and name calling is the weapon of the weak of mind. I dont forsee me being interrogated , by any agency , i have a "press card" , that opens many doors , and i still have some friends in the military. Wich brings to mind another one of your attacks on my character , why should i have to explain myself to you or anybody else , i didnt like the war , thats why i havent mentioned it , on my profile. I served my country with honor , and was promoted to a higher rank after the war. I was working for ground troups , in the field of communications , and lets live it at that. I was proud to serve with brave soldiers from our military. I am not proud of war , its not like you see in the movies , people you care , die for real bannana. If indeed i was a "cook" , it wouldnt matter any way , its still an honorable job , even if you dont think so. As i write this , i think of all the experiences i had in the field. Not something i particularlly enjoy to remember. As far as me jeopardizing my entire life , somehow ,i cant see any sincerity that you might accutually care one way or the other. Who am i to you? Words behind a computer screen? Think for a moment that there is someone behind the words , next time you decide to "Agressivelly" express your opinion as you put it. No in between.... good Luck. |
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Date: 12/22/2002 7:22:00 AM
From Authorid: 54987
Question: As I understand it, everything is made up of particles right? Using a particle accelerator, have they achieved, or exceeded the speed of light? Another thing: Apparently, what determines whether energy is a particle or a wave is dependent on the viewer. What I mean is that it is the viewer's conscious thought that decides the form it takes. So surely that would mean that thought is a higher energy source than a particle/wave if it can dictate its form. A thought can travel faster than even light. If that is the case, we are breaking the speed of light all the time. What do you think? No insults please I'm a sensitive guy. |
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Date: 12/22/2002 7:45:00 AM
From Authorid: 27691
Thank you Stargazer for finally providing the information that i, and most doubters like me, wanted to hear in validating this post and i admire that. Please accept my apoligies for coming across like a immature villian in these discussions for that is how i approach it and i must admit it was my form of interrogation, if you will, in hoping to get the answers that i was seeking and i believe that has been achieved in your last post. You are a good, sincere person and i take that to heart. |
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Date: 12/22/2002 8:05:00 AM
From Authorid: 27691
Very interesting 'thought' Koolade and i had thought about that as well but this can never be proven by normal conventional methods other than dwelling into the paranormal arena since a person's thought cannot scientifically be proven in any way, shape or form. With that in mind, and from what i had read but never witness, is that there ARE people who can read the 'thoughts' of others, and if that is the case, then the question might be...How fast does a mind reader picks up a 'thought' after the 'thought' has been initiated by a subject. Makes you wonder huh? |
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Date: 12/22/2002 1:06:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 19342
koolade...i can only expeculate on what i have no information , however , as far as i know theres no way to even measure the speed of thought. It most likelly will fall into astral projection , the ability of leaving the body behind and projecting oneself to long distances. Again , i could research the matter if you wish , i certainlly have a huge database at the shop , but i think , this (TIC-TOC) , is more a mechanical , aproach to problem , then spiritual , Astroprojecton. I hope i answered your question. And Bannana , apologies accepted. |
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Date: 12/22/2002 2:39:00 PM
From Authorid: 54987
Thanks for your replies... both Banana and Stargazer. Well paranormal implies that it is outside the 'normal'and, in a way, can be seen by the early flat earthers when they were told the earth was round. I try and think outside the box whenever I can and I can only say that whatever can exist in this universe has to be normal. It just hasn't been discovered yet. I find it hard to conceive of a mechanical way to move at the speed of light with the denseness of matter. However, I admit that my knowledge is limited. The nearest thing to measure thought would be the firing of the synapses in the brain, but that would really only show that thought is occurring. If its of any interest, I have heard that there is a community in northern Italy who claim to have developed a time machine. It a place called Damanhur. Just type it in the search engine and see what you come up with. I do know that some psychics have been able to time travel both backwards and forwards, although forwards they claim is a bit misty. I don't really think we have anything to fear about destroying time as it's only an illusion anyway. Good luck y'all. |
Date: 12/24/2002 12:57:00 AM
From Authorid: 55967
I have an open mind, but....what to me is the most amazing part of this post is that I can come home from working for a company in the richest, most powerful nation the world has ever known, and just sit down, fire up the ole PC, and have the nation's most top secret and guarded activities drop in my lap without lifting a finger or looking for it on purpose. To me, THAT is legendary in itself. Worthy of many novels and movies. Almost like "WarGames"...~GypsyHawk~  |
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Date: 12/24/2002 12:15:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 19342
And if had mentioned "lap tops" and internet , 50 years ago , you would probably be called insane or something! Thanks for the reply. |
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Date: 12/28/2002 8:04:00 PM
From Authorid: 56864
I read one of your comments and with the fast light pulse, you'd go backwards in time because the speed of light is a time stop, so think of it as a number line...Over light speed=back, Light speed=stopped, and Slower than light speed=forward. I just realized something. I always have visions of formulas or something that run through my head. If I could just write one down, I bet it would be a really cool find! |
Date: 12/29/2002 7:18:00 PM
From Authorid: 1055
After reading all of the comments on this subject I have one thing to say. Time does not exist. You read correct, it is an abstract concept made by humans to keep track of the passing of events. Now as far as the scientists who made the light exist in two places at once, I read that article and have one thought on that subject. They said that if light can travel forward in time that it could carry information. Now imagine if your computer could run that fast, or your internet connection. IMAGINE! What you posted may or may not be true, but the article is real and if they can find a way (like they almost always do) to use this for faster computers and such advances, just imagine how fast and how much information you could see and process. I realize that the info that you can process now is impressive, but imagine faster then the speed of light. Internet lag would be a think of the past, your computer wouldn't take 2 minutes to boot up, and video games would become so huge and immersive that you could play an entire lifetime on one game and never see a fraction of the entire game (much like real life). The only reason I say these things is because while most everyone else commented on if its real or not, I say who cares. When this technology is made for public use we will have a revolution bigger than we had at the beginning of the 1900's. Which is why the gov. would be interested is such a project. No government wants technology to make them an obsolete concept. Or at least make them virtually a powerless concept. Just some thoughts for you people to dwell on.  |
| Date: 1/1/2003 10:09:00 AM From Authorid: 60940 AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. This post has the biggest ,longest posts i've ever seen. I havent read more than 2 of the posts. The idea here seems highly unlikely. How can any equipment measured by man measure the speed of a light particle travelling at the speeds you say? Also, we don't have no proper grasp on the dimension of time. Also, einstiens theory says nothing about going faster than time, and also, to trval at that speed requires infinate energy source? |
Date: 1/4/2003 7:53:00 PM
From Authorid: 54444
Great Read...Look at all the responses. Of course all of your wild claims are lacking in proof, logic and documentation. Amazing that you "know" things which you say are "above top secret," but write on, brother, I love to read science fiction and I have a great sense of humor, as I see you also share.  |
| Date: 1/8/2003 10:59:00 AM From Authorid: 60940 Yes. I'd like to say that quantum physics is isn't advanced enough to create a time rift thing. This sounds bogus, and like the previous post said, if its so top secret, how do you know ? |
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