Date: 10/29/2002 7:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 45630
Unfortunatly these kids are a product of the times. Since the world started to go into a worldwide recession in the midd 80's the children of the world have suffered. Adding to this the fact that they are extremely hormonal at this point in time. And the fact that every teen goes through some form of teenage angst. Keep your chins up guys, I've been there and done that, it ain't fun.  |
Date: 10/29/2002 7:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 36704
if they quit lying, that might be a start  |
Date: 10/29/2002 7:47:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 20702
You know Kurtvedder, you are so right....about going through this stuff, we all have, but it just seems like it is really bad right now....but then look at all the negative crap that is going on in this world....no wonder everyone wants an earlier train out of here.......Peace to All...Angelreader  |
Date: 10/29/2002 7:48:00 PM
From Authorid: 9130
its a cry for attention  |
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Date: 10/29/2002 7:49:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 20702
Perhaps it is a cry for attention....But, what if it isn't? |
Date: 10/29/2002 7:53:00 PM
From Authorid: 54968
I agree with DizzyMe. They just want attention.  |
Date: 10/29/2002 8:01:00 PM
From Authorid: 52866
I'm with Diz too  |
Date: 10/29/2002 8:10:00 PM
From Authorid: 21867
...just a comment...when I was a teen I was generally too busy working and doing chores or playing Rugby or Hunting and Fishing to actually have time to 'navel-gaze' and get all depressed...  |
Date: 10/29/2002 8:16:00 PM
From Authorid: 47113
well, i feel some may be a cry for attention, but what about those who aren't....i agree with you angel reader...life is precious...but turning our backs and assuming its only a cry for attention still won't help them....whether its attrention or not, they are still crying out for help....great post angel reader and if it reaches at least one person who is contemplating suicide, then you've made a difference....god bless you soul sister...:-)  |
Date: 10/29/2002 8:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 47699
I've seen the same thing and it's sad. It was very kind of you to post this.  |
Date: 10/29/2002 8:41:00 PM
From Authorid: 59418
its not a cry for attention in most. its just...coz they hate life at that point in time. hormones go crazy n stuff, u no..metal princess  |
Date: 10/29/2002 8:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 26452
Yes some are a cry for attention, and other aren't, the problem is, most teens are looking for a quick easy way to stop the TEMPORARY pain. "Suicide is a permament solution, to a temporary problem" that quote could not be more true. Most teens are just having trouble dealing with whats happening in their lives, sometimes they are truly going through alot of pain, and I can sympathysize (sp?) with that, sometimes they just need someone to help them, to talk to their pain about, and eventually get through it...But unfortunatly, most of the time, its just someone going through a minor problem, and over reacting. There are some teens wanting to die just because their boyfriends/girlfriends broke up with them, and that sometimes peeves me off. Do they even realiaze how small that is? Do they have any clue how much more pain other people have gone through and SURVIVED? They don't realiaze how precious life is, and when they're dead THEY ARE DEAD. and (no offence to anyone) I also find suicide very selfish (unless, you're dieing, like you've been diagnosed with an uncureable cancer and don't want to suffer etc) they don't seem to think about the effect of them being DEAD will be in their family, friends etc. They're not thinking about the people that love them, and it WILL get better. It just takes some time. ive lost count of how many times I've said THAT, but its true, in time, things get better, but only if you want them to, you cant just sit around wanting to kill yourself and expect things to get better you have to TRY to make things better. I don't know how many times I've talked friends out of suicide, its very stressing, and like I said most of the time it is over NOTHING. Crap happens, learn to deal with it, make yourself stronger....And then theirs the crys for attention, those people I have no sympathy for, and I cannot STAND it when someone says their gonna kill themselves just for attention.....Sorry for the novel lol I hope its not too long.  |
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Date: 10/29/2002 9:08:00 PM
From Authorid: 47113
well said moon angel...:-) |
Date: 10/29/2002 9:46:00 PM
From Authorid: 26452
Thank you Angelinesheart |
Date: 10/29/2002 10:56:00 PM
From Authorid: 998
I'm so glad that this post isn't just complaining about the young people on this site. You have given good idea's to them, and a compassionate ear if they need it. Thank you Angelreader  |
Date: 10/30/2002 5:32:00 AM
From Authorid: 58308
I'm with MoonAngel. Very well said Moon! VERY good post Angelreader!! Hugs! Zeeboette  |
Date: 10/30/2002 5:37:00 AM
From Authorid: 61763
not everyone has an easy life sometimes death is the only choice.  |
Date: 10/30/2002 6:47:00 AM
From Authorid: 2030
A cry for attention from folks who are used to instant gratification and being coddled. The minute someone disagrees or things don't go their way they are "Depressed" the new buzz word for "pouting".  |
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Date: 10/30/2002 6:58:00 AM
From Authorid: 2030
Author 61763--- That is Crap! There are people out there with terminal illness struggling for each day, people without arms or legs struggling with life yet holding it precious, people who have lost loved ones in war and accidents who will grieve the rest of their life but they go on. WHY because that is what you do, life is precious. And to throw it away because your boyfriend/girlfriend of 6 weeks found someone else or because you have zits or didn't make the cheerleading squad is just plain Stupid! And who suffers? The parents, the brothers, the sisters, the loved ones. All while some selfish moron is already gone. If not for the pain it causes those people who have to live with the loss, I'd say go ahead and walk in front of a bus. |
Date: 10/30/2002 1:03:00 PM
From Authorid: 60945
I don't know what's going on with all my friends*peeks out window* It must be the 'holloween spirit'. I hope it passes soon!! ~Demonicangel~  |
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Date: 10/30/2002 8:54:00 PM
From Authorid: 26452
Exactly BCAR! Life isn't easy, you have to learn to deal with it, death is NEVER an option. Life sucks, you have to learn from it, and get stronger. Like BCAR said, there are people out there with missing limbs, terminal illnesses etc and they are still working hard just to live, take a walk in their shoes, think about how hard their life must be, still think yours is so hard? |
Date: 10/30/2002 8:54:00 PM
From Authorid: 21294
Great post AngelReader. I too have noticed that so many young people talk of suicide. Life is so very precious, but I think that we miss that valuable knowledge until we have walked lifes path for several years..I know that I didn't realize life's value when I was younger. Our priorities change with age. As does our ability to deal with the pains and disappointments that life spreads on that path. Maybe some are right that it is a cry for attention, but, again, what if it isn't. I share your concerns AngelReader and would also like to offer a shoulder and an ear. I have been in the emotional state where suicide seemed like the only answer. It isn't the only answer. I don't think it is ever the answer. To the young people of USM, I am here for you. Anytime. God bless, DreamWalker  |
Date: 10/31/2002 12:48:00 AM
From Authorid: 61763
BCAR I highly doubt you have experinced everyones life but yet you sit there and say they're selfish when in fact you haven't a clue.
You don't know every reason someone might kill themself but you look down on them none the less, maybe because you don't think they're as "strong" as you. |
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Date: 10/31/2002 8:18:00 AM
From Authorid: 2030
My point is that there is NO good reason to kill yourself. You are here for a poupose with a special gift called life. You owe it to those who wished they could have more time to live yours to the fullest. And on that point I DO sit in judgement on anyone who wants to kill themselves. |
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Date: 10/31/2002 10:50:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 20702
I would like to add to this post something my father always said, "I felt bad because I had no shoes, Until, I met a man who had no feet." Take this saying and use as you see fit.....Peace to All...Angelreader |
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Date: 10/31/2002 10:56:00 AM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 20702
I would just like to add something here. I believe that we are all here to learn lessons. Sometimes these lessons are really hard. But, I also believe that if someone kills themselves, that they will come right back in, meaning here on earth, and the lessons will be harder. Better, to learn them the first time around. Now, I know, that not everyone will believe the way I do, but, that is ok.....Peace to All...Angelreader |
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Date: 10/31/2002 5:10:00 PM
From Authorid: 21294
AngelReader.....thank you for sharing that saying dad use to say. That is exactly what I came back to this post this evening to do. Great minds sis, love, laughter and light. DreamWalker |
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Date: 10/31/2002 7:35:00 PM
From Authorid: 61763
So people are expected to live through pain be that emotional or physical and if they end it they are selfish? sounds like the ones wanting them to live are the selfish ones |
Date: 11/6/2002 1:09:00 AM
From Authorid: 8090
It is something we ALL go through as teenagers...the hormonal changes make us angry, depressed, enraged, etc...they will get through it, just like we did. I remember banging my brush against the wall because I was having a "bad hair day", and thinking I looked like the hunchback of notre dame because I had a few zits....believe me, they'll get over it.  |
Date: 11/6/2002 6:42:00 PM
From Authorid: 61893
I never brush it off when someone says," I wish I were dead." "I feel like killing myself." I had friends in school that said this all too often, it did get to were I would just ignore it and them. However, 3 months ago a girl I want to school with shot herself in the head. She was only 25 years old. I think she cried out for help in high school, and people ignored it. The last straw for her was when her dad turned his back on her. Wasn't her fault at all, he started dating a 18 year old girl, he was 50. He choose her over his daughter. Just last week one of my friends from school lost her mom due to shooting herself in the head. It don't just happen to teens. Her mom was around 46 years old. She got depressed within the last few months of her life, and one night after seeing her daughter, she went home and killed herself. People kill themself for many reasons. Sometimes it can be helped, and other times it can't. Depression is a REAL disorder, they can't help that they are depressed. Trust me, I suffer from depression and I would rather be "Happy go lucky," and just let things go, but I have no choice in the matter. Yea, sure the doctors can put you on meds, but they don't always help, not for me anyways.  Never judge others, because you just don't know what they are going thru.  |
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Date: 11/6/2002 8:43:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 20702
Babygurl_1, you are so right. Thank you for your reply.......If we walked in other peoples shoes more often, perhaps there would not be any judging people. Peace.......Angelreader |
