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Date: 10/3/2002 1:31:00 PM
From Authorid: 53284
Your argument is simplistic. If you look at 10,000 smokers and 10,000 non smokers, you will see a much higher percentage of smoking related illness among the smokers. Not 100% of the smokers will suffer from an illness. The tobacco industry used to use arguments like yours to try to demonstrate that smoking didn't cause lung cancer because there are people who smoke that don't have lung cancer. But if you look at large groups of people you will find that smoking is definitely bad for then health of the group, but not every individual in the group. ![]() |
Date: 10/3/2002 2:59:00 PM
From Authorid: 13729
I am no advocate of smoking to say the least. I smoke and hate the fact that I do. I have tried many times to quit and will continue trying until I succeed. But the fact of the matter is that 50% of the people who get lung cancer never smoked...This is not to say that smoking isnt bad for you...It is...There are many other ailments you can get from smoking.... ![]() |
Date: 10/3/2002 8:24:00 PM ( From Author )
From Authorid: 57718
Noone is arguing that smoking is not bad for you, the point is only that for every disease smoking supposedly causes there is proof that there are a multitude of things working together that actually cause the disease. Agreement is smoking may very well be one of those things. But while smoking may be one of those things, so is the sun, or some other equally "harmless" substance. It's like this, at this time science can say "people who are in the sun alot, smoke alot, eat high calorie foods, and drink coffee get more skin cancer, so therefore the sun, smoke, food, and coffee all work together to HELP cause skin cancer." That's the point, smoking doesn't CAUSE disease. A multitude of things cause disease. Smoking may be part of that, but it isn't all of it. To make "smoking causes disease" your sole basis of arguement is inaccurate. Smoking doesn't CAUSE it, but smoking probably helps it. But at the same time, remember the sun helps it, french fries help it, coffee helps it. Many things working together cause disease. I can't wait to see someone try to outlaw the sun, another class A carcinogen. Point of this article though is that NOONE has found a disease where smoking is the sole cause. So noone can accurately say smoking kills. They can say that smoking is MAY BE a contributing factor. Name me one disease that smoking CAUSES, not even lung cancer falls into that category, though smoking naturally has a big effect on it as it weakens a smokers lungs. But if smoking CAUSED it, then ALL smokers would have lung cancer. I don't, and never in all the smokers I've known have I ever MET someone with lung cancer. So, while smoking may (and probably does) contribute, it isn't the sole cause. BTW, that 22-1=3 etc is supposed to be 2 to the 2nd power. 2 to the 300th power, etc. |
Date: 10/4/2002 11:16:00 AM
From Authorid: 32861
have you seen anyone close to you die from cancer because they smoked??Its a very hard thing to deal with. I just buried my grandfather yesterday. He died from cancer that was caused from smoking. And he hasn't touched a cigarette for 50 some years. How about other smoking-related illnesses? My grandmother died from emphysema. She couldn't breathe beacause of smoking. I could sit and argue with you all day, but I don't want to waste my energy on something you think you believe in so much, because I know how hard it is to change someone's mind when they have "scientific proof" that says they're right. Bull. Smoking kills people and that's all I have to say to you. ![]() |
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